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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    A CNN segment on this...

    http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bes...teen-death.cnn

    I'm still finding this accident thing very hard to believe.
    Thanks! So the DOJ is going to review the case and the former FBI agent interviewed said there are more questions than answers, and from his reading of the reports, the crime scene was compromised. The coroner stated the same in an interview but later did not want the interview shown.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KateB View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/RipKendrickJohnson

    His father tries to get himself in one of the mats in one of the pictures.
    Wouldn't it matter how tightly the matts were rolled?

    Also the "after" facial pic looks pretty bad but if the body was upside down and all of the blood and fluids drained into the head I would guess that could happen.


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    Looks like a second autopsy has been ordered
    http://www.walb.com/story/22525078/c...-johnsons-body

    From the article above
    "On Thursday, attorney Chevene King announced at a news conference that the Patient Care Report from the responding paramedics shows Johnson's body was partially in a rolled up wrestling mat; but his torso, head, and arms were exposed.

    King says that contradicts investigators claims that Johnson's body was found upside down stuck in the mat".


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    Quote Originally Posted by aurora_sky View Post
    Looks like a second autopsy has been ordered
    http://www.walb.com/story/22525078/c...-johnsons-body

    From the article above
    "On Thursday, attorney Chevene King announced at a news conference that the Patient Care Report from the responding paramedics shows Johnson's body was partially in a rolled up wrestling mat; but his torso, head, and arms were exposed.

    King says that contradicts investigators claims that Johnson's body was found upside down stuck in the mat".
    Actually, it doesn't contradict investigators claims.
    Whoever found the body probably removed him from the mat before paramedics arrived. Which would explain why the paramedics described him as being partially rolled up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannaT View Post
    The thing I learned from that video is what the mats look like - I had thought they were VERY heavy, but it looks like I could comfortably carry one. I really had thought they were those very thick gymnastics mats that you can barely drag across the room using all your might.
    I don't think they are as light as they look, although not terribly heavy. The 1 1/2" thick is 141 lbs and the 2" thick is 169 lbs. Not easy to pick up by any means.

    http://www.americanathletic.com/416-...Ref=Gymnastics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    Wouldn't it matter how tightly the matts were rolled?

    Also the "after" facial pic looks pretty bad but if the body was upside down and all of the blood and fluids drained into the head I would guess that could happen.
    It certainly would matter how tightly the mats were rolled. If they can get some pictures of the mats as they were at the time, it would tell them if some were rolled looser than others. My school used to keep the mats rolled up behind/under the stage (multi purpose room), and they were everything from perfectly tight to barely rolled at all. Ours were never stored on the end, though.

    It is good that they are going to check again, though. Most of the contradictions make sense, because of course they would pull the body out to see if he was still alive, but a couple things are really off and I cannot tell if it is sloppy report writing or something actually was missed.
    Just the facts, Ma'am.


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    It's always the guy in the white van.


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    Any updates?

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    Johnson's body is now being autopsied for a second time. The family expects to have the results within two weeks.
    Dated 6/30/13

    http://www.wtxl.com/news/florida_new...9bb30f31a.html


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    Haven't heard anything on this case. Should we assume that the second autopsy confirmed the first one? The Facebook page hasn't been updated since July 11.
    all my comments are just my opinion. jmho. moo. etc. etc.


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    Sorry if this has already been mentioned but I could see the following scenario happening:

    Kendrick was in the gym for PE and took his shoes off for some reason. Maybe to change into sneakers. Another student decides to take one of his shoes and hide it by throwing it into the rolled up mat. This may have even been a friend just playing around. So he is looking for his other shoe and no one tells him because they think its funny. The bell rings and he goes on to his next class and just thinks its lost. Then at some point someone tells him they threw the shoe into the rolled up mat. So he goes back into the gym later to find the shoe and as he is reaching down to get it he falls in and maybe no one was there to hear him screaming for help.

    Wonder if there are cameras in the gym. That would settle this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiagirl View Post
    Sorry if this has already been mentioned but I could see the following scenario happening:

    Kendrick was in the gym for PE and took his shoes off for some reason. Maybe to change into sneakers. Another student decides to take one of his shoes and hide it by throwing it into the rolled up mat. This may have even been a friend just playing around. So he is looking for his other shoe and no one tells him because they think its funny. The bell rings and he goes on to his next class and just thinks its lost. Then at some point someone tells him they threw the shoe into the rolled up mat. So he goes back into the gym later to find the shoe and as he is reaching down to get it he falls in and maybe no one was there to hear him screaming for help.

    Wonder if there are cameras in the gym. That would settle this.
    Here is a link to a timeline where the sheriff and other LE discuss what the video at the gym shows. I think this was posted previously:

    http://valdostadailytimes.com/local/...e-of-a-tragedy

    “He comes down the hallway, and essentially he enters the gym. He’s following another kid,” said Jones. “The first kid comes in and goes to the left. Kendrick goes in and off to the right towards the corner where the mats are. You don’t see anyone trailing him or someone he’s having a dispute with,” adding that allegations he had been in a confrontation that day or the day before were false.

    Shortly after, other students could be observed entering the gym for class and you could see kids playing basketball later on another camera, according to Jones.

    “We can only assume that he had gone down into the mat by that time,” said Prine.
    More at link.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by gxm View Post
    Haven't heard anything on this case. Should we assume that the second autopsy confirmed the first one? The Facebook page hasn't been updated since July 11.
    Since the original date for the second autopsy was late June and the June 30th article said two weeks I suppose this is possible. I'm pretty sure if the second autopsy confirmed their suspicions we'd have heard about it.


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    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/03/us/geo...html?hpt=hp_t2

    "Georgia teen Kendrick Johnson's death was not accidental, family's autopsy finds"

    Wasn't sure if this was posted..... 'blunt force trauma' sounds bad , as if Kendrick was placed into the mat after he'd died.


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