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    CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #2

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    Ok. So his body hasn't been found, and TES is a no go.

    What next?

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    Reposting so we have it here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by alreetlike View Post
    and TES is a no go.

    What next?
    Why is TES a no go??

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCLAEigenguy View Post
    Why is TES a no go??
    TES will only come in with LE welcoming them. Apparently they don't want outside help at this point.
    Fibromyalgia Fog at it's finest! Temporary loss of vocabulary may occur at any time.

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    PHew!!! I got this whole message done, hit submit & got "thread closed." I was scared the whole thing had been shut down. Thankfully I C&P'd my message before figuring out what was going on!
    **********************************************

    Thought: Bryce was not trying to drive down Main Ramp Road going around the locked access gate... We've heard mention of a cell tower. I'm thinking he was actually driving around this cell tower (there is no cell tower by the MR Rd gate) & rolled down to MR Rd. Also the "gate" he would have driven around would actually be the guard rail. Thoughts?

    I recall initial news reports saying he rolled onto MR Rd, but had forgotten about it until looking at maps again now. The Distance from the intersection of MR Rd & Lake Hughes to this cell tower is just .2 miles. 1.9 miles away from the body found.

    A = Lake Hughes Rd / Main Ramp Rd
    B = Cell Tower
    C = Body


    Close up of relation between intersection & cell tower


    Satellite of Cell Tower area


    Street View of Cell Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCLAEigenguy View Post
    Why is TES a no go??
    This is Dragracerz's quote from the first thread about TES not being able to help:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragracerz View Post
    Yes, I just spoke with them and because of the detective in charge they will not help. I cannot say anymore about it.
    We had a great phone conversation and they would like to help but can't


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    Is there a current map of the various locations floating around?

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    Verified insider - Bryce Laspisa case

    Originally Posted by margarita25
    Has TES been contacted or their presence requested?
    Yes, I just spoke with them and because of the detective in charge they will not help. I cannot say anymore about it.
    We had a great phone conversation and they would like to help but can't
    [WS is really slow right now!]
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    http://sheriff.lacounty.gov/wps/port...lake++lasd+scv

    Reposting for new thread, this is the official LASD missing person report.

    Timeline (by kevsrebla)

    Monday August 26 Bryce attends his speech class and web design class at Sierra College and has a “good normal conversation” with his mother, according to her. The family has a photo taken that afternoon of a “happy” Bryce posing with a Madden sports video game.

    Tuesday 27th Bryce admits to his girlfriend he took at least one pill described as medication for attention deficit disorder, according to conversations relayed by the girlfriend to Bryce’s mother. “He was acting strange and he admitted he took that pill,” she said quoting the girlfriend.

    Wednesday 1:30pm told his mom he was breaking up with his girl friend Kim Sly, they started dating March 15th ish
    She (mother)also received information that Bryce had taken a pill, or pills normally prescribed for children suffering from attention deficit disorder.

    10 p.m. Wednesday - Bryce reportedly tries to break up with his girlfriend. Friends, concerned about his behavior, take away his car keys.

    10:30 p.m. Wednesday - Karen Laspisa tells the friends, by phone, to return the keys to her son after she speaks to him she told him she was going to fly up to the college to see him, he reportedly said: “Mom, do not make any flight. I have a lot to talk to you about.’”

    Wednesday 11:30pm Bryce Laspisa leaves Chico, according to his girlfriend, Kim.
    journey started Wednesday north of Sacramento

    Wednesday 10pm left Sierra College in Rocklin north of Sacramento and began his drive to Laguna Niguel.

    Thursday 9:am Bryce ran out of gas and called roadside assistance from the Buttonwillow Rest Area west of Bakersfield, a fact confirmed by the credit card company.

    Thursday 12pm a roadside assistance serviceman named Christian delivers three gallons of gasoline to Bryce, according to a $20 credit card purchase for the fuel. “He’s not answering his phone (at this time),” his mother said.

    Thursday 12:30pm Karen Laspisa calls serviceman Christian and asks about her son. He tells her he appears “OK” but adds: “His eyes look a little red.” Bryce does not answer his cell phone.

    Thursday 9pm responding to a call from the mother, CHP officers stop and search Bryce’s car spotted on Lagoon Drive in Buttonwillow. “Something happened in the whole 10 hours he was around there,” she said. This may be the time at which he was considered missing with police first but then taken off that list.

    Thursday 10pm Karen speaks to her son on the phone and asks: “What are you doing?” His response, she said, is: “I’m going to hang with friends later.”Thirty minutes later, he bought a $1.71 beverage from a Shell gas station near Buttonwillow exit on the corner of Tracey Ave and Lagoon Dr

    Friday 12:30 am parents tried calling him but got no answer

    Friday 1:50am Bryce’s parents reached him and he had said he was driving on the I-5 but could not see any signs, she said.

    Friday 2:08 am last call to parents, was tired and going to pullover to rest. “He told me ‘I got off the I-5 and I’m in a suburban area. I’m going to sleep in my car,’” said Karen Laspisa (mother) “I told him to call me when he got up the next morning.”
    He never called

    Between 2:08 a.m. and 5 a.m. Friday - Bryce makes three trips to the crash site – the last trip ending with the crash, according to what his mother described as surveillance footage captured by cameras set up near Castaic Lake.

    The crash had to happen between 4:20 a.m. and 5:15 a.m, It had gone down a 15-foot ravine nose first and landed on the passenger side. Bryce (or someone) has used an emergency tool to break the back window

    Friday 5:30 am officers of the California Highway Patrol found his 2003 Toyota Highlander SUV on its side at the bottom of a 15-foot ravine on the Castaic Lake Main Boat Launch access road(Main Ramp Rd. The back window had been shattered.
    cell phone, laptop and wallet inside the vehicle.

    “There was some blood but they don’t know if it’s Bryce’s,” she said, adding investigators are now examining it for clues.

    Friday 8am local police went to parents house to inform them they had found the SUV

    6:04 am Wednesday September 4th - burning body reported by cyclist ~2 miles from the crash scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCLAEigenguy View Post
    Why is TES a no go??

    see dragracerz's post here:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...&postcount=993
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    Quote Originally Posted by alreetlike View Post
    Ok. So his body hasn't been found, and TES is a no go.

    What next?
    See below:

    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    They've filled out forms for Tim Miller's Equisearch Team. They have fought tooth and nail to get media attention. Much more than we we've seen in some cases! I think they are doing the best they can at this point, and holding off on searches only because they don't know if Bryce has been found yet or not!
    No criticism meant at all! Who the heck but sleuthers and people who have gone through it would know everything they can do at such a moment. But I see a serious lack of the kind of organization critical to finding a loved one who has disappeared. If they are holding off though, that tells me that deep down they are pretty certain the body is Bryce's. .

    If not, they need help and fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by dragracerz View Post
    Yes, I just spoke with them and because of the detective in charge they will not help. I cannot say anymore about it.
    We had a great phone conversation and they would like to help but can't
    Okay, here's some great organizations that can help right now:

    http://www.carolesundfoundation.com/

    These people will help mobilize and are excellent at getting media attention. They help the families survive the ordeal and they also help with developing a professional family spokesperson to aid in PR and media, to make sure the case is not ignored and has the kind of publicity that perks people's ears up and gets the public involved.

    Your family has apparently spoken to Marc Klaas so no need to repost that info. But just in case, here's his site with resources as to what exactly to do immediately when your loved one goes missing: http://www.klaaskids.org/pg-missingchildren.htm

    Here's TeamAmber set up by Amber Dubois' mom. She's SoCal and they have SAR teams who can help with private searches when LE drops the ball. If TES cannot help, these people can. They helped find Michelle Le and know how to set up a command center, etc.: http://teamamberrescue.org/about_us.html
    http://teamamberrescue.org/our_team.html

    Some family member or friend who is capable of helping right now and not too distraught, needs to man the FB for Bryce and answer every question that can be answered, contact anyone who has a sighting and respond to those who want to join search efforts.

    It really troubles me that a guy who posted on there who lives in the area and states he knows the canyons like the back of his hand, was ignored when he reached out to try to organize a search effort. I am not criticizing. I can't imagine being in their position. I'd probably have to be sedated, and in the hospital myself. But the family and friends desperately need help organizing and I'm trying to address that.

    Also, the mom appears to be manning the page. That is crazy to me. I can't imagine she's in any position to actively man it. In response to sightings, her answer was a vague, "I hope people who have sightings to report are contacting LE". This family needs a lot of help right now!

    Dragracerz, I hope this info is of some assistance to your family.

    The person they found could be an awful coincidence, especially considering all the activity in that region with burning bodies (WTH?) I remain hopeful that the body isn't Bryce and that he can still be found.
    For Elizabeth, a minor child, a victim. Thank God she is home!

    *Gitana (means "Gypsy girl"). Pronounced "hee tah nah."

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