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    GA - Lauren Giddings, 27, Macon, 26 June 2011 #15

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    Lauren Teresa Giddings

    April 18, 1984 -- June 26, 2011
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    McDaniel Doesn't Object to Search at Grandfather's Farm

    ...Giddings' parents, Bill and Karen Giddings, filed a wrongful death suit against McDaniel in June asking for permission to search the 63-acre farm in Pike County.


    Thursday's order, signed by Judge C. Ashley Royal, gives the family until June 30, 2014 to do that.


    ...The lawyer for the Giddings family, Kristin Miller, says they will serve a subpoena to the current property owner and hope to find a forensic expert and cadaver dogs within the next few months. ...
    more at: http://www.13wmaz.com/news/topstorie...ndfathers-Farm

    ETA: And... thanks very much, 13WMAZ, for providing a link to a pdf of the discovery document!!

    http://www.13wmaz.com/assetpool/docu...ry%20Order.pdf
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    Thanks, Backwoods, for the update.

    If the privately retained searchers find something they feel is evidence, are they permitted to call LE to retrieve it as long as the LE isn't from Macon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearl View Post
    Thanks, Backwoods, for the update.

    If the privately retained searchers find something they feel is evidence, are they permitted to call LE to retrieve it as long as the LE isn't from Macon?
    Great question, pearl, and I don't know the answer. I'm sure they will have some kind of approved system set in place, though, to get any evidence found evaluated and into the right hands.

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    I wonder if they will find anything relevant. I read the article this morning and wondered who they will choose to do their investigation.

    I also wonder if he is certain that they will not find anything because he hid it well or because nothing is there. I am also curious about this witness and how affective she will be if no evidence was found where she pointed LE.
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    Just a friendly reminder, everyone. If discussing the witnesses, please remember, initials only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backwoods View Post
    Not sure, tomkat, but I'm thinking if the dogs were near a buried body, they would alert "strongly" and maybe in some certain manner at that spot -- and, I guess, if that had happened, perhaps digging would have been done. Just guessing, though.

    Also -- I posted just above -- maybe the dogs detected a piece of clothing, a weapon, etc., that had been in contact with a dead body (whether Lauren's or someone else's) -- something other than actual, recoverable remains left at that spot.
    Then I guess the FBI should go back and check it out, OR it may be that cadaver dogs hits is like genealogy research, you can make anything fit if you want to (where it is fact or fiction).

    I'm just really disturbed that the cadaver dog hit there and the FBI is saying nothing is there or atleast LG wasn't

    So I recall the deep discussion early on here about the cadaver dogs hitting at LG Apts. Seemed to me it was strongly beleived by everyone/most anyway, that the dogs hits are surely a dead ringer. No pun intended

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomod View Post
    I wonder if they will find anything relevant. I read the article this morning and wondered who they will choose to do their investigation.

    I also wonder if he is certain that they will not find anything because he hid it well or because nothing is there. I am also curious about this witness and how affective she will be if no evidence was found where she pointed LE.
    Yes I was trying to figure his angle in his cooperation or whatever it was

    ORRR, if he objected, then what? Everyone would think stronly then that LG was at the grandfathers property and what....no one could search? Or maybe make someone more determined to search ? I mean do they need SM permission? Or was that just a statement he made? LOL

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    Everytime I come on Lauren's thread, I am just absolutely horrified to recall the dreadful details of what we know so far.

    The worst part is, it is only the tip of the iceburg.

    I don't think I can take learning about the physical evidence in this case.

    The gruesome manner with which such a beautiful, vibrant soul was taken, will haunt so many people, loved ones and strangers alike.

    The fact that part of her remains continue to be stolen and withheld in an evil, despicable, cruel manner from her loved ones is another element of an attempt at power in her death. It makes me SICK.

    If his own family cannot find someway to appeal to his purely evil heart in righting his horrible wrong, then there is no hope left for humanity.

    With a heavy heart, I remember Lauren tonight.

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    After the little flurry (at the end of the past week) of coverage concerning the civil suit, which did mention that pre-trial hearings in the criminal case are upcoming Monday, I have not seen any further mention of Monday's hearings until just a few minutes ago, on the late news on Macon's 13WMAZ. (Whew -- I was beginning to fear they had been rescheduled.)

    Bad news is, 13WMAZ report said they will have "team coverage" tomorrow at 5 and 6, no mention of live-streaming. macon.com hasn't rung in with any plans for that either, thus far.

    No link yet for tonight's 13WMAZ broadcast, but I will check later and post the link when it's up.

    ETA: Well, still no link, guess nobody's minding the store following the late Sunday newscast! Y'all will just have to take my word for it, LOL.
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    OK, now...this from Macon's 13WMAZ sounds a little bit more promising than what was said on air:

    McDaniel Expected in Court for Pre-trial Motions

    ...We'll have coverage of the motion hearings throughout the day on Eyewitness news and here on our website at 13 WMAZ dot com.
    more at: http://www.13wmaz.com/news/article/2...rial-Motions--

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    somewhat of a rant

    I am really frustrated with the media coverage in this case right now.

    You know, I am not sure that extensive media coverage, live full coverage of hearings, etc. is the RIGHT thing -- but I kinda figure, if you start out that way, you should finish that way, barring a gag order. Has anybody heard anything about a gag order? Because I sure haven't. Has the judge put a stop to it -- if so, media, tell us.

    Why live-cover a bond hearing in full, then not do so with pre-trial motions, Macon media??

    I'm also still mad at The Telegraph (and other media outlets, because they could have stepped up to the plate) for never posting a full copy of the second set of defense motions filed -- because The Telegraph DID post the first set! They set a precedent. Where is Mike Stucka when you need him (Telegraph guy attributed credit for getting the first set online)? Did he get in trouble over sharing that and, if so, with whom?

    So now, not only do we get only what dribbles of the hearings the paper chooses to share -- or the dumbed-down TV news version -- we don't EVEN have full knowledge of what is expected to be handled. Dang, I KNEW I should have made arrangements to be free to attend the hearings! I wish I had.

    And now The Telegraph/macon.com seems to have switched completely over to the Facebook-required format even to READ comments. That steams me, too. I've seen the comments section habitually used in a really hateful and childish manner, so I DO kind of understand them doing that, but, arghh, all of these frustrations at once.


    ETA: I will try to hunt down and link some of the "dribbles" later, once they get through dribbling out, LOL, if no one else does. Right now I am too mad.

    Will say that from what I've seen, 5 days have been set aside for the hearings. The Giddings family is reported to have been in attendance today.
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    OK, a little brighter -- looks like some video at the link below, not sure yet how extensive:

    http://www.13wmaz.com/news/article/2...rial-Motions--

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    long-ish video of Det. Patterson testifying at link -- I'm having a bit of "technical difficulty" with it, maybe others will have better luck:

    http://www.13wmaz.com/video/26761977...Daniel-Hearing

    Also, let me say, while I'm logged on, that the reports of Lauren's family being there apparently didn't mean her immediate family, but the Georgia cousins, etc.

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    I expect "today's dribble" from macon.com is now through updating, so I'll go with this:

    Detective: McDaniel was ‘staring out into space like a zombie’

    ...New details pertaining to evidence in the case arose during Monday’s testimony.

    Documents in the case previously have revealed that the purpose of one of the nine search warrants obtained by Macon police was to look for blue fibers in McDaniel’s apartment.

    Macon police Sgt. Scott Chapman testified Monday that the FBI’s lab in Quantico, Va., notified police that they found matching blue fibers on shorts found on Giddings’ torso and a gray T-shirt seized from McDaniel’s apartment.

    The purpose of searching for blue fibers on July 12, 2011, was to find the origin of the fibers, Chapman said. ...

    ...Chapman said he got a call from another detective who had talked with one of Giddings’ uncles who said Giddings had said she had a “creepy” neighbor who had been stalking her. ...

    ...At the detective bureau, police interviewed several of Giddings’ friends and McDaniel. After McDaniel’s interview, he was told that he was free to leave, but he stayed in an interview room with the door open. He didn’t have any transportation. ...

    When questioned by Franklin J. Hogue, one of McDaniel’s lawyers, Patterson confirmed that a police captain’s voice can be heard on a recording that shows McDaniel sitting in an interrogation room.

    Hogue said the captain can be heard saying he was “watching this guy” and calling the person he was watching a “bushy haired guy.” Patterson said he couldn’t recall the comments.

    The lawyer seemed to insinuate that although McDaniel had not been arrested, an officer was standing guard outside the door. ...

    lots more at: http://www.macon.com/2013/09/16/2667...-to-begin.html
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