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    Quote Originally Posted by mandiedq View Post
    When I read that people were not to search the forest preserve, I assumed it was because they hadn't fully searched it yet and didn't want non-trained folk rummaging through it and possibly disturbing/destroying evidence.

    In a lot of areas around here, the forest preserves have their own police. I don't know if that is the case here, but it may be an issue of jurisdiction that has complicated the search there.

    ETA: here is a link for the forest preserve law enforcement: http://fpdcc.com/about/departments/law-enforcement/
    Maybe I'm just na´ve but when I saw that post re: NOT searching the forest preserves, I assumed it was for safety reasons. I'm not familiar with the area at all but maybe they did not want untrained people out there getting injured? Just a thought. This case has me wrapped around the axle!
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    Wonder if LE has checked his computer....both at home and in the office?
    Sleuthing....from the perch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quagmire0 View Post
    The fact that (to our knowledge) NOTHING has been found in terms of evidence (photos, video, car, cell phone, wallet, etc.) at this stage in the game really leans towards a voluntary disappearance.

    If it is foul play, it is very well timed and very well executed.

    Thinking highly logically:

    He's on his way home. Calls his wife. Traffic is bad, has a convo with his boss about how bad traffic is because his boss takes the same route. Nothing unusual at that point, really.

    Last toll ping is at Touhy, which means he most likely left the highway between there and the next toll stop, which would be the Edens spur. So, that's four possible exits.

    Last cell ping is a full 5 hours after the toll ping, in just about the same area as that toll.


    It's bad traffic, so he may have done one of two things: 1. gotten off the highway and tried to bypass traffic. 2. gotten off the highway to make a cigarette stop or get something to eat/drink, thinking traffic sucks and maybe wanting to wait it out or at least go to the bathroom or get something to drink/smoke for his seemingly long commute. Neither of those things would have warranted a call home, IMO.

    Seeing as most of the surrounding areas are 'nice' neighborhoods, where something like a carjacking is uncommon. Seeing how most of the areas are well populated and it was still light outside, I just don't see many ways that an abduction could have taken place. He'd most likely stop a gas station or 7-11 type store, or maybe even a grocery store. All of those would have multiple video cameras. That would be the opportunity for a criminal to attack him, but again - to our knowledge - we have no evidence of him being at any store or stopping anywhere.

    *Not knowing the additional evidence*, I would be heavily leaning towards either an intentional disappearance, or a very well orchestrated abduction. For what reason though?
    I don't think he would take the Edens spur on his commute. He is already on 94 at Touhy. He would just take that north all the way to Grand Ave. in Gurnee and exit to head home. If he stayed on 94 all the way to Gurnee normally, Touhy would be the last toll he'd pay. He may have exited at Touhy, though.

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    In considering the suicide vs. voluntary missing scenario, it is important to keep in mind that suicide is very often an impulsive act, with less then 2 hours between the decision to do it the the actual attempt. I don't know if anyone has ever studied the thought process and timing of decisions for voluntary missing adults, but it would seem that pulling it off would take a bit more planning. There would be signs, maybe discernible to family in financial records or cell phone and internet use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inthedark14 View Post
    This has been nagging at me too. Especially considering where his last cell phone ping was. There is a huge amount of forest preserve in the immediate area full of trails and picnic areas. Here's a map of the forest preserve in the area of the last phone ping. Perhaps the Forest Preserve Police have already cleared it?
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    It was also specifically stated to NOT search the forest preserve....opinions folks?
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    This has bothered me since I read it yesterday. I can understand asking those who do search not to touch any possible evidence and to alert authorities immediately but why no searching at all. Just seems like an odd request to me.
    This makes me think they don't want the general public to find his body, should he be there. Maybe he is struggling with depression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktgirl View Post
    Maybe there was a police officer running radar & Nicholas was letting his boss know about so he could make sure he was doing the speed limit? I would appreciate that type of heads up if I was about to take that same way home.
    Does traffic even get up to the speed limit during 5:00 PM rush hour traffic in Chicago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Friday View Post
    Does traffic even get up to the speed limit during 5:00 PM rush hour traffic in Chicago?

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    On northbound 94 it does, yes. Usually well above the posted 55 mph. I just did it last week at 5 and beyond. Very congested, but there are 4 lanes heading each direction on 94.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDub View Post
    Really? Maybe she texted while stopped at a red light...

    I also don't think its odd that he talked to his boss about traffic. I can't believe this has almost been a week, I thought for sure he'd be found by now.
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    Where was it said what the conversation with his employer was about traffic? Do you have a link to that information?




    OT: It would still be considered illegal in Illinois to text while stopped at a red light or dead in traffic. Unless the transmission was placed in park or neutral. I doubt anyone does that.

    FYI, effective January 1st, 2014 it will also be considered illegal to use any cell phone device while operating a motor vehicle in Illinois that is held to the ear. There are a few exceptions however, such as in an emergency.

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    For some reason I do not think we will find out if the employer is a male or a female.
    also was this person on the road at the same time as Nick and if so where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Friday View Post
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    Where was it said what the conversation with his employer was about traffic? Do you have a link to that information?




    OT: It would still be considered illegal in Illinois to text while stopped at a red light or dead in traffic. Unless the transmission was placed in park or neutral. I doubt anyone does that.

    FYI, effective January 1st, 2014 it will also be considered illegal to use any cell phone device while operating a motor vehicle in Illinois that is held to the ear. There are a few exceptions however, such as in an emergency.
    The link to the "traffic" info was posted multiple times in previous posts. It was linked from the FB page. (Not that I'm sold on the traffic convo though).
    Also, I'm hardly considered a rebel, but if I want to use my phone while I'm in the car, I do. It is illegal here in CA as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liltexans View Post
    The FB admin just replied about the call:

    The conversation with his employer was only to discuss traffic because they take similar
    routes home. There were no issues at work, nick did not have any conflict with the company or any employees And his workday had been completely normal.

    https://m.facebook.com/1413439305539...ser=1334497765
    bumping the information about the call with the employer

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    Hi, all. I don't know Mr. Steward or his family. I just happen to live in Lake Villa and my husband works down by O'Hare so I'm familiar with his typical route home from work. It's def not unusual (to me) for someone to call home and give a heads-up that traffic on 294/94 is extra ridiculous. My husband always lets me know when he's leaving work and he'll let me know if traffic has slowed him down or if he's making an extra stop so I'll know when to start worrying about him. And I doubt it's relevant, but Nick could have also taken the Buckley exit (about 7 miles south of Grand Avenue exit, I think) which my husband takes sometimes on Fridays because of Six Flags traffic for the Grand Avenue exit.

    All of this is purely supposition, but here's a theory or two: Maybe Nick saw that traffic was really bad so he decided he should get off the tollway to get gas before he sits in Friday traffic. There could have been trouble at a gas station. Maybe he decided to stop at the casino to pass a little time (maybe it was pay day?). He could have lost track of time in the casino, or he could have lost $ and gotten caught up on trying to win that money back. He could have disappeared on his own if he lost $, rather than going home to face his family. He could have been jumped in the parking garage of the casino (maybe he won $ and that was witnessed by someone who had bad intentions). Whoever has taken his car could have thrown his cell and i-Pass transponder out at some point so they could drive around being untrackable.

    And finally, I agree with you all that there's a good bit of info being held back and I'm not so sure I agree that his 5:30 Friday phone call with his boss was only about traffic. But I saw on the Find Nicholas Steward FB page a few days ago, someone asking if he was a drinker or had a gambling problem or was depressed, and another poster pretty much jumped on them and said (I'm paraphrasing here), "If he did have a gambling problem would you stop looking for him? If he was suicidal does that mean you would lose interest and not try to find him?" and it made me think that maybe some info is being held back, or glossed over, just for that reason. I most certainly hope he's alive and maybe stumbling around in a fugue state after bumping his head or something but even if he seems to be a completely nice guy with zero problems and stressors, we should consider that people can be pretty good at hiding their problems, even from those closest to them. On the news when someone has hurt themselves or others, the interviewed neighbors never say, "Oh, yeah, we knew it would happen. It was just a matter of time." They always say, "He was nice, pretty quiet, mainly kept to himself... never in a million years would I have thought he was capable of this..."

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    Even if the transponder was removed from the car, if it went through any tolls without paying, it the license plate would be captured. Now if the car went through a toll and paid the toll (by throwing in coins or paying an attendant) I don't know if that would be recorded as well. It seems like there are cameras EVERYWHERE, traffic cams, red light cams, CCTV for the myriad of businesses in the general area. It's so strange that a week later it appears he just vanished after that last ping.

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    The thing that keeps driving me crazy is if he left voluntarily, where is his car? How has someone, anyone, not seen this white Saturn with it's two stickers on the rear window? Fine, he could have ditched it but is he THAT savvy to know how to make a car unrecoverable? It's one thing for a human being to disguise themselves or hide, etc. but to try to hide an entire car? My gut keeps saying he got in an accident somewhere and we just haven't found the site of that accident. I hope, so badly, that he is okay. But if he is, he certainly isn't checking in with his parents or sister.

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    Am sorry to hear and see nothing yet absolutely nothing no news. Where the hell is he and what could happen to make a new father just vanish? I fear he was not ready for fatherhood and only his wife will know about that. Is he bi polar or is there any history of depression? I would love to know if the nurses or dr's noticed anything at the childs birth...
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    There doesn't seem to be much updated media on Nicholas.

    I had been feeling for the most part that, that he was involved in an accident somewhere, however; I did find something that striked me as odd.

    In looking around on FB (so I can't link it) I found one of his friends who has been pretty vocal on Nichola's behalf actually refer in past tense - along the lines of - those who KNEW him (Or something like that, I saw it yesterday and pretty much dismissed it.)

    Today it hit me that maybe there was a private struggle of some sort-depression, etc. that would spark a close friend to maybe assume he was no longer here?

    It could be nothing, could be just odd verbage, or it could have been written naturally with emotion that expresses opinion.

    Anyway- I hope he is found. I really don't think he met with foul play so either - he's gone on his own (which I am trying to buy into but somehow can't,) involved in an accident, or has harmed himself..

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    His son is a year old, so he is not a "new" father as in having a newborn at home, so it seems unlikely to me this had anything to do with it. The Chicago media is not covering this case well enough to get the word out. A few internet stories over the weekend, but has anyone seen it covered on broadcast news?

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    you know; since the phone was "turned off" at around 10:30 pm I think by that time between 5:30 pm call to employer *did he quit did he say he wouldn't be back did he say hey I have stuff to deal with or I need time off because of new child etc etc" between those hours maybe he decided; he just couldn't wing it. Being a Parent.

    I think someone is hiding him out; wife and LE should really be all over his text records and phone calls from last two months and even before that. Was he seeing someone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stg View Post
    His son is a year old, so he is not a "new" father as in having a newborn at home, so it seems unlikely to me this had anything to do with it. The Chicago media is not covering this case well enough to get the word out. A few internet stories over the weekend, but has anyone seen it covered on broadcast news?
    Gah; I didn't know he wasn't a New as in brand new father and I was linking that to him taking off. You're correct; the coverage of his case is disturbing in that little details are being released here and there....

    Why isn't his wife coming fwd?
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    Yep and we all HV to remember about Nick Fransisco; the outrage when people finally saw his "interview" and that there was another man there; that obviously his wife and co workers and friends, new nothing about. Absotuckinfutely nothing. There are always signs, and sometimes it's really awfuly hard for a wife to look at that. Are his things missing from home? His fav levi's his clothing his shoes his most valued things? We don't know. We didnt know in Fransisco's case and we dk in this case. Why is his wife silent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherry View Post
    Gah; I didn't know he wasn't a New as in brand new father and I was linking that to him taking off. You're correct; the coverage of his case is disturbing in that little details are being released here and there....

    Why isn't his wife coming fwd?
    She has been posting gratitude quite frequently on FB, but I agree, why not get her out there in the media? In such a huge metro area, if this case gets more media coverage, that is millions of people who can be looking for him and/or the car. I feel like the Chicago media ignores stories up in the far northern suburbs too often, even though we are definitely still a Chicago suburb. This case should be national news IMO.

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    Could the car be in someone's garage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stg View Post
    She has been posting gratitude quite frequently on FB, but I agree, why not get her out there in the media? In such a huge metro area, if this case gets more media coverage, that is millions of people who can be looking for him and/or the car. I feel like the Chicago media ignores stories up in the far northern suburbs too often, even though we are definitely still a Chicago suburb. This case should be national news IMO.
    I don't think national news will touch these cases unless they have some proof he did t just run away. Jmo

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    I'm pretty sure his wife is a teacher so she may not want her face out in the media due to current/past/future students? Just a guess on that one.

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    If the transponder was removed from his car and he blew through a toll without paying, yes, there would be a screen capture of his license plate. However, when I've gotten a ticket for not paying a toll, I've received the notice in the mail over a year after the fact. This makes me think that maybe it takes a long time to go through that tollway footage. It could also mean that iDOT are slowpokes. But I think that surely there has to be footage of that car on some camera, somewhere. There are too many toll, red light, and security cameras in the world for that car to have not been recorded. There is just so much footage to check from so many different places and after a week, I hope nothing needed has been recorded over by now.
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