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From top-left, clockwise): Wilton Lubin, Maurice Viens , Tammy Leaky, Denis Roux-Bergevin, Pascal Poulin and Marie-Eve Lariviere. Police are also linking the disappearance of Sebastien Metivier in with the case.

Police have recently converged seven cold cases involving murdered or disappeared children in the hopes of catching what they believe is one serial killer, QMI Agency has learned.

Read more: http://m.en.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2013/09/28/21158081.html

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/28/quebec-police-believe-serial-killer-behind-7-cold-cases
 
Not quite sure if this case belongs here, but cannot find a thread for this particular Quebec cold case which I came across on a Sharron Prior website. Unfortunately most of the info seems to be in French so details need to be translated in order to reach a wider audience imo.
It seems new info has been found and the family would like to have this case reopened.
Imo, one attracts more bees with honey..


Helene Monast

http://www.hebdosregionaux.ca/monte...herche-dindices-sur-le-meurtre-dhelene-monast
 
theres another name that may need added here just can't think of the name at the moment i will get back here when i do..
 
Searching for original articles on the web didn't turn up much.

Tammy Leaky, 12, 1981

Tammy Leaky, a 12-year-old who went missing in 1981, just a few blocks away from where Sharron disappeared six years earlier. Tammy’s body was found later the same day, raped, beaten and strangled.http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/13/yvonne-prior/
Kidnapped girl is found dead


Sebastien Metivier, 8, and Wilton Lubin, 12, November 1984

Family gathers to remember boy missing for 27 years
REPORT BY CINDY SHERWIN
Published Tuesday, November 1, 2011 11:04PM EDT

MONTREAL - It was 27 years ago, but his heartbroken family has never recovered.

Sebastien Metivier was only eight years old when he vanished from a schoolyard on the corner of Desjardins and Adam Sts. in Montreal's east end in 1984.

The police searched for Sebastien 27 years ago in the St. Lawrence River. They didn't find Sebastian, but only the body of the friend who was with him at the time, Wiltin Loubin. His throat had been slit.
Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/family-g...y-missing-for-27-years-1.719430#ixzz2gWWXkTzH
Wilton Lubin, 12, and his friend Sebastien Metivier, age 8, were kidnapped in the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve.
The body of a young Wilton was recovered a month later in the St. Lawrence.The child of Haitian descent had been strangled and murdered.Little Sebastian,
has never Been Found. In 1993, the prime suspect in these cases, a 44 year old man with a heavy criminal record, committed suicide before undergoing a polygraph examination, taking with him perhaps the key to the investigation. Unsolved
http://quebecunsolvedmurders.blogspot.com/2011/01/wilton-lubin.htm
Police think two missing boys are being sheltered by an adult - Nov 15, 1984

Police now believe missing boys were abducted - Nov 24, 1985

Murdered 12 year-old had his throat slit - Dec 4, 1984

Choir at boy's funeral sings of peace - Dec 6, 1984

Mother calls for special police squad as file on missing son is closed - Jan 26, 1985

CANADA Canada - Sebastien Metivier, 8, Montreal, 1 Nov 1984 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Maurice Viens
, 4, November 1984
November 6, 1984 police enter a barn Saint-Antoine-sur-Richelieu, described by Mr. X and discovered the body horribly mutilated and lifeless is little Maurice Viens.The child had been sodomized and severely beaten.
http://quebecunsolvedmurders.blogspot.com/2011/01/maurice-viens.html
Viens murder case solved - Nov 20, 1984

Police rivalry blamed for Viens case chaos - Feb 16, 1985


Denis Roux Bergevin, 5, June 1985


Police, volunteers join search for 5-year-old boy - June 7, 1985

Montreal Police criticized in child slaying case - June 11, 1985

Boy a victim of a violent world - June 10, 1985

article continues here...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=LCAyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=36UFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1332,5680324


Pascal Poulin, 10, January 1990
10 year old Pascal Poulin was abducted, raped and stabbed on January 21st, 1990. In Montreal, Quebec. To this day no arrests have been made.
http://quebecunsolvedmurders.blogspot.com/2010/11/pascal-poulin.html
Marie-Eve Lariviere, 11, March 1992
The night March 7, 1992 Marie-Eve disappeared, she had left her home in the Saint-Vincent-de-Paul neighborhood to purchase something at the local Corner store. Local police family and friends searched all night. Her body was found several hours later,she was found by an employee of Canadian Pacific near a railway line that crosses the boulevard Saint-Martin in Laval,7 km from her home. Marie-Eve had been sexually assaulted and strangled.The police department of the city of Laval continued their investigation. Still a Cold case. http://quebecunsolvedmurders.blogspot.com/2011/01/marie-eve-lariviere.html
Michel Ethier, 13, December 13, 1984 (Not one of the named seven, but I'm adding his name here, anyway.)

No sign of missing boy in cottages - Jan 8, 1985

Body found is Ethier boy, mother says - March 28, 1985

Dental charts confirm body is missing boy - March 29, 1985

No trace of foul play found on boy's body, coroner says Aug 14,1985
 
I am racking my brain about the case i was trying to remember and i don't know why but the name cedric provixisha or something kinda close to that name . she was taken off her bike in middle of the day some friends were near and thought the guy had said can u help me find my dog .There was a huge search effort then after it ended the father and uncles went all over the place following hints and clues i remember one they went to a small cabin in the snowy mountains they were told he was keeping her held there but didnt hear nothing else after that....I remember she had a poster up in wallmart .I know i got the name wrong im still trying to find the correct spelling..
 
I am racking my brain about the case i was trying to remember and i don't know why but the name cedric provixisha or something kinda close to that name . she was taken off her bike in middle of the day some friends were near and thought the guy had said can u help me find my dog .There was a huge search effort then after it ended the father and uncles went all over the place following hints and clues i remember one they went to a small cabin in the snowy mountains they were told he was keeping her held there but didnt hear nothing else after that....I remember she had a poster up in wallmart .I know i got the name wrong im still trying to find the correct spelling..

Think this is the case you are referring to CanManEh.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=ce990411-a693-46df-b827-6f720ed7adbd

"Police are not ruling out the hypothesis missing nine-year-old Trois Rivieres girl, Cedrika Provencher, may have been abducted by a woman and man team, said Surete du Quebec spokesperson Constable Richard Gagne.

Shortly after Cedrika went missing on July 31 Madeleine Bournival, one of the last people to see the girl before she disappeared, told police that a woman had asked Cedrika to help in the search for a black and white dog.

While police initially focused their attention on finding this woman, they soon started looking for the man who had approached three girls with a similar request in the days preceding Cedrika's disappearance".

CANADA Canada - Cedrika Provencher, 9, Trois-Rivieres Quebec, 31 July 2007 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
 
Has anyone been seen in Quebec taking pictures of children, LE gave a warning today in Toronto.

http://www.cp24.com/news/police-alert-public-after-man-snapped-photos-of-kids-1.1479716

" Police said the man packed up his camera and fled when bystanders noticed he was snapping photos of kids near Queen Street East and Jones Avenue on Tuesday at about 5:10 p.m.

The man is white and five-foot-11 to six-foot-one with a medium build. He was wearing beige pants and a green shirt, and he was carrying a brown shoulder bag".

Read more: http://www.cp24.com/news/police-ale...napped-photos-of-kids-1.1479716#ixzz2gbqbuUwV
 
there's a photo of Sebastien at this link:

The Missing Children's Network held a march to mark the unsolved kidnapping of a young boy that led to the network's creation 25 years ago.

Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/still-se...etivier-25-years-later-1.449896#ixzz2gc7lb3cf

From the link, wondering who else LE have in mind?

"Police think they might know who was behind the kidnappings and killings, but they'll never know for sure.

The main suspect in this case committed suicide the night before he was to take a lie detector test.

Jean-Baptiste Duchesneau was in jail for sexually assaulting a child. Years earlier, he had killed a six-year-old with a hammer"

Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/still-se...etivier-25-years-later-1.449896#ixzz2gdIfrmVF
 
Is anyone familiar with Duchesneau. I can't find anything about him or the murder of the child with a hammer.

This article about the Viens murder mentions the cab driver who was the primary suspect at one time. Another suspect was his roommate. The article quotes a source who at the time said the roommate had tried to kill four children and succeeded in killing another. None of these suspects are named, so it's hard to figure out who's who.

Police rivalry blamed for Viens case chaos - Feb 16, 1985

Two bids to abduct children are foiled - June 17, 1985

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAIBAJ&dq=sebastien metivier&pg=2409,2928753

And maybe this boy's name, Michel Ethier, should be added to the list as a victim. It sounds like his death was classified an accident too quickly. He played hookey from school in December, 1984. In March, 1985 his badly decomposed body was also found in the St. Lawrence River with some signs of bruising around his neck.

No trace of foul play found on boy's body, coroner says Aug 15,1985


Then there was this unnamed perp.

Brutal sexual assault leads to arrest of a man Oct 25, 1986


 
Thanks to all who posted articles here, found them very interesting. While browsing through them wondered why Sharron Prior is not listed with the other 7 cases when so much regarding her case is similar.

Link to Sharron's thread.
CANADA Canada - Sharron Prior, 16, murdered in Point St. Charles QC, 1975 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community



From Montreal Gazette article regarding 5 year-old Denis Roux-Bergevin, quoted below, 10 June 1985 - from post #5, snipped for brevity.

'... police made their way up a little-used path to a row of beehives ...'


Searching for original articles on the web didn't turn up much.

Boy a victim of a violent world - June 10, 1985


Sharron Prior was found at beekeeping site 10 years before DRB. She had head trauma like DRB, a broken jaw like WL and went missing from Point St Charles as did TL.

It's possible LE did not disclose that SP is part of this cold case investigation. I hope she is as there is a broad spectrum of victims in the 7 named - male, female, ranging in age from 4 to 12. SP would be the 1st of 8 cases if included, falling 6 years before TL.
 
A lot of the coverage was in French since Quebec is predominantly French speaking.
 
There’s a serial killer of children on the loose in Quebec, living today in Trois-Rivières, having eluded police since the 1980s, claims a Montreal documentary filmmaker who has completed an examination of eight unsolved homicides.

Stéphan Parent makes the explosive, if not sensationalist, claim in Novembre 84′, a two-hour documentary that contains dramatic reconstructions of the abductions of children as well as the dumping of their bodies in fields — all set to a loud, jarring soundscore. The film is to screen at some Guzzo theatres as of Nov. 5.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/1...nd-unsolved-quebec-child-murders-documentary/
 
Could this be the guy?
New in Montreal, also posted in the Jolene Riendeau thread..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...St-Charles-April-1999&p=11154447#post11154447

"NEW!!!
rbbm.
http://montrealgazette.com/news/loca...ulting-suspect

"Dolores Soucy, the mother of a 10-year-old girl who disappeared from Point St. Charles and was killed more than a decade ago, pleaded guilty to assaulting the suspect in her daughter’s death Friday morning and received a sentence that leaves her with no criminal record.

Jolène Riendeau disappeared in 1999. Her remains were only found 11 years later, buried under a span leading to the Champlain Bridge. Soucy knew for years that Robert Laramée, 51, a convicted sex offender, was always a suspect in her daughter’s death. He was questioned about the homicide in 2011, after the Montreal police received confirmation that the remains they found were in fact Jolène’s.

Laramée resided near the home where Jolène lived with her family when she disappeared in 1999 and Soucy suspected him early on as the police investigated. Police sources have said for years that Laramée was a suspect in the killing"
 
NSFW (do not enlarge photos if you wish to avoid gore) but if you scroll to the bottom of this page about "The Boot Lace Killer" you'll see some potential younger victims listed
http://theresaallore.com/2013/08/quebec-1977-who-was-the-bootlace-killer/


A personal note, maybe Off-topic or maybe related to any Canadian unsolved cases:

These cases from this part of Canada as well as cases from New England in general I try to follow pretty closely.

When I was a young girl, I was at the ocean of a seaside vacation community in Maine that had a very large French Canadian population. especially during tourist season. It was in the early fall, I was there because my family was working on a vacation rental cottage they owned- shutting the water off, making small repairs. We'd go up on the weekends from central MA to do this. I'd walked 3/4 mile from the cottage near the railroad tracks to the beach. I remember the day clearly- it was warm enough for me to wear shorts as long as I stayed moving. The beach was deserted except for some fishermen dotting the shoreline. I chased waves for a little while, and as I was picking my shoes back up from the sand to head home a man approached me. I remember very clearly what he looked like. I think he was middle-aged (but as a kid, everyone over 30 is middle-aged). He had a very square face with some deep lines like someone who spent a lot of time on a boat may have. His features may have looked ever-so slightly slavic or italian or greek. His hair seemed unnaturally thick, and it somehow seemed wrong- in retrospect I think he was probably wearing a hairpiece or full wig.

He told me his dog had run away and asked me if I'd seen it. I hadn't. He then offered me some money if I'd help him find his dog. That seemed like a good deal to me I agreed to help him look.

It's hard for me to type that even to this day without feeling deep shame. I was poor, and I was wearing a new shirt (well, it was new to me, my mother's best friend's daughter outgrew it) that had just enough stretch that it showed off my barely developed bust, and I'd been *frolicking* at the water's edge and feeling as sexy as a prepubescent child could only moments earlier.

Nearby was a creek that feeds into the ocean. At low tide you can usually cross the creek (although the sands shift yearly) and large rocks run along it. If you walk up the creek a little ways you can get to a road. He told me we should split up I should walk up the creek calling for the dog, and he'd search another route and reconvene up at the road.

As I started walking along the rocks and calling for the dog I began to feel more and more uncomfortable. I was confused as to why the man would think that the dog would head back up to the road, it would make more sense for us to search two different directions of the beach if that's where the dog was last seen.

I started to scan the rocks ahead of me, afraid the man could have somehow made it to the creek before me and was lying in wait. The creek was deserted, and when I got near the road I scrambled up the embankment in relief, and then immediately felt silly about my overactive imagination.

I stood in the road and couldn't see anyone, and then suddenly he appeared further down the road, nearer to houses, close the old sump pump station shed (since replaced).
He looked-- fairly aggravated?
But I may have mistaken agitation for aggravation, or maybe it was simmering rage that he didn't hide well. I'm not sure, but I immediately felt like I'd done something wrong and hadn't followed directions correctly.

He started motioning me to get over there, and as I reached the point where he'd been standing I saw he'd turned and started about 50 feet down the long, brambled path next to the pump. I knew from experience those paths were overgrown in places and led into the woods, I'd sometimes go down them to pick wild blueberries and raspberries.

"I think I saw him go down here!" he called.
I felt like I was sleepwalking as I followed him into the mouth of the path a few steps. Every hair was standing up on end but I still took a few steps forward. "I can't help you, I have to go", I said.
"I'll give you $5 for helping me so far", he said, turning and making a motion like he was reaching for some money, walking back a couple more steps further into the woods at the same time.
I took a few backward steps toward the road in response. "No, thanks, I need to go home", I said.
"How old are you?", he asked.

I wish I can remember what I said because then I'd know what year it was, was it 1978?or 1979? But the blood was rushing in my ears making a howling noise that drowns out the memory of my own voice replying. "12", I'm pretty sure said. (maybe 13?)

"You know what I want, don't you?"

The next thing I remember is looking at his hands. I think I probably was subconsciously looking for a dogleash, and I can't remember if he was holding one. On the one hand, I knew he should have one, but on the other, seeing him with a leash in his hands at that moment would have been terrifying.

I felt like time stopped at that moment, as cliched as that sounds. It's like when you trip and take an unexpected bad fall and the ground comes rushing up at you in slow motion.

I managed to turn and run, even though I felt like I couldn't breathe. I remember running down New Salt Road and how all of the houses were closed up for the off-season/ I remember trying to scream and not being able to. I ran down another street and came upon a man out in his driveway washing his car. I tried to scream for help, and nothing came out. I just stopped and stood in front of him and tried to to keep saying the word help over and over and nothing came out.

He realized something was terribly wrong and yelled for his wife to come outside. They brought me into the house and closed the door and after I stopped hyperventilating (which took quite a while and a full glass of water) they were able to get enough of the story to call the police, who put me in the back of the squad car and drove me all through the area trying to find the man, but of course we never did.

I always wonder if there were other children who weren't as lucky as I was. I imagine there were. I also wonder every now and then what would have happened if I hadn't gotten away- if he was a actually a murderer rather than "just" a child rapist. I'm pretty sure that experience is why I spend so much time here- I'm a little obsessed with serial murderers being caught before they can inflict any more suffering on anyone.

The meeting spot (on street view you can see the path. It's been cleared more in the intervening years, when I'm in Maine I sometimes jog down it as a way to reclaim it on my run): https://maps.google.com/maps?q=new+...hnear=Old+Orchard+Beach,+Maine+04064&t=m&z=17
 
Thanks Marble for your insightful post, my head is swimming after reading the link provided, and am at a loss for words.
So forgive me for the following question, any chance the "shoelace killer" is a poetry fan, or at least interested in the writings of Charles Bukowski?

A couple of tidbits from his poem..

http://www.poemhunter.com/best-poems/charles-bukowski/the-shoelace/

"The Shoelace

a woman, a
tire that’s flat, a
disease, a
desire: fears in front of you,
fears that hold so still
you can study them
like pieces on a
chessboard…
it’s not the large things that
send a man to the
madhouse. death he’s ready for, or
murder, incest, robbery, fire, flood…
no, it’s the continuing series of small tragedies
that send a man to the
madhouse…
not the death of his love
but a shoelace that snaps
with no time left … "


<<snip>>


"with each broken shoelace
out of one hundred broken shoelaces,
one man, one woman, one
thing
enters a
madhouse.

so be careful
when you
bend over."
 
That's a very interesting possible connection! Certainly during that time Bukowski was a public figure and had a large underground following among certain types of men who wouldn't necessarily read poetry as a habit. This album recording from 1973 has the poem on it, so it reached a wide audience of people who never may have picked up a book of his poems but still enjoyed his work in that narrated form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgTNHpyNcgM
 

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