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    FL - Police videotaped handcuffing 5 year old

    5 year old throws tantrum at school, clearly out of control. Teacher contacted another teacher for assistance, the assistant principal was called in, the other pupils moved to safety. When the child continued with the behavior she was warned that police would be called, when she did not calm down, police were contacted. Meanwhile child calms down, begins showing signs of responding to teachers. Officers come in and handcuff the child and take her to police cruiser. Child was released to mother, after state attorney's office was contacted and told police that the 5 year old would not be prosecuted.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2005/04/22/So...olice_ha.shtml
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    Another shining example of brilliant police work. Do these people recieve ANY education before they're handed a gun? I guess the up side to this is that they didn't taser her.

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    What where they going to prosecute her with??

    Being a 5 year old?

    For that matter how dare the Pricipal and teachers not know how to handle this child??
    They needed to call the police and intimidate a 5 year old?

    I am wondering if this child is possibly emotionally disabled?

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    This school district needs alot to be desired,not only this incident but also the 6 yr old that ran out of the cafeteria and got hit by the car.There is no need to handcuff a 5 yr old,they should have got this kid's mind off of her anger,talk to her about things she loves,like tv characters or something,get her calmed and demand her mother comes to the school.I believe this has more damage then good.And I would be irate if it was my child.

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    Wait, wait, wait...I saw that little out of control brat and guess what? Teachers can't do anything because they'll be fired or sued. I would welcome some handcuffs on kids who need to be taught a lesson. She was not physically harmed. Some five year olds need authority and discipline a little harsher than others. Teachers' hands are the ones that are cuffed. Damned if they do and damned if they don't and the parents don't want to admit they have a bratty kid and want to blame everyone else. And I have a sister that I love dearly who is a prime example of this and all her kids are grown Jerry Springer graduates who blame everyone else for their bad behavior and failures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy
    Wait, wait, wait...I saw that little out of control brat and guess what? Teachers can't do anything because they'll be fired or sued. I would welcome some handcuffs on kids who need to be taught a lesson. She was not physically harmed. Some five year olds need authority and discipline a little harsher than others. Teachers' hands are the ones that are cuffed. Damned if they do and damned if they don't and the parents don't want to admit they have a bratty kid and want to blame everyone else. And I have a sister that I love dearly who is a prime example of this and all her kids are grown Jerry Springer graduates who blame everyone else for their bad behavior and failures.
    I saw the video too. Five year olds have been throwing tantrums as long as there have been five year olds. If this teacher lacks the intelligence or ability to handle a five year old, then she has no business being in the classroom. And the video clearly shows that the little girl was SITTING DOWN and the police picked her up, leaned her over a table and cuffed her.

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    Our teachers are VERY limited as to how they can discipline in a classroom. I come from the days when schools had paddle machines, teachers hit hands with rulers and kids sat in the corner wearing dunce hats. I am not advocating these things but do wish teachers were allowed to maintain some order in their classes. I have volunteered in our district for twenty-five years now and every year is worse. Some of these kids are so unruly that it is difficult for the other children to learn. I once worked in a third grade classroom where one of the boys was severly disturbed. He would scream in the middle of lessons, run away and hit and kick the teacher. When the teacher would send him to the Principal, WITHOUT fail the Principal would tell the teacher that it was her own fault for failing to let the boy know how much she "cared" for him. Well, one day, I walked into the office and there was that boy kicking the Principal and I couldn't help but nearly laugh out loud. Needless to say, the boy was expelled for a while AND they finally had him start working with a Counselor. I'm not sure what the answer is and I don't think arresting a five year old will be of any help but I do believe that our teachers have little control over their classrooms and that the result of lack of discipline is that our good kids are being cheated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy
    Wait, wait, wait...I saw that little out of control brat and guess what? Teachers can't do anything because they'll be fired or sued. I would welcome some handcuffs on kids who need to be taught a lesson. She was not physically harmed. Some five year olds need authority and discipline a little harsher than others. Teachers' hands are the ones that are cuffed. Damned if they do and damned if they don't and the parents don't want to admit they have a bratty kid and want to blame everyone else. And I have a sister that I love dearly who is a prime example of this and all her kids are grown Jerry Springer graduates who blame everyone else for their bad behavior and failures.
    I saw it too! That teacher needs an award! I'm not sure I could take that behavior! Her parents need help as well to raise such a brat! Apparently this girl is trouble, the police have been called more than once to the school because of her. Oh how I wouold dread to be around her when she's in her teens! I say KUDOS to the police. I don't think they did anything wrong. They handled the situation before it got anymore out of hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally
    I saw the video too. Five year olds have been throwing tantrums as long as there have been five year olds. If this teacher lacks the intelligence or ability to handle a five year old, then she has no business being in the classroom. And the video clearly shows that the little girl was SITTING DOWN and the police picked her up, leaned her over a table and cuffed her.
    That teacher did D@MN good in my book! Why do you feel the need to say she lacks intelligence or the ability to handle this girl, did you see the ENTIRE video? She handled the situation better than I would have. This girl was OUT OF CONTROL, teachers aren't allowed to do much. This wasn't the typical 5 year old tantrum.

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    well according to the article it wasn't the first time police were called because of that little girl. IMHO if she was taught right from wrong at home, she wouldn't have been in that situation.
    I think the police were justified in what they did, they are to serve and protect not parent kids whose parents don't want to do it.


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    Too bad after the FIRST time the police were called they didn't refer her to special ed testing or call in a behaviorist! This is a five year old...maybe even the first time at school. Teachers can't do much when a child is out of control, but someone needed to refer this child someplace, as this wasn't the first time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpharee
    That teacher did D@MN good in my book! Why do you feel the need to say she lacks intelligence or the ability to handle this girl,
    I stand by my opinion. Any teacher that cannot handle a five year old needs to find another profession

    did you see the ENTIRE video? She handled the situation better than I would have. This girl was OUT OF CONTROL, teachers aren't allowed to do much. This wasn't the typical 5 year old tantrum.
    Yes, I saw the ENTIRE video, at least as much as was aired. Several times. And, like I said she was SITTING down in a chair, when four police officers picked her up and cuffed her. Give me a break. The thing about this that is truly disturbing is that so many people actually think the police were justified in this.

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    It is important to note that the child may have been referred to Special Education or a behaviorist or any number of other "specialists" by the school. However, it is ILLEGAL for the school to release that information. (I do question the release of the video.) It also should be noted that parents make the final decisions regarding psychological and special needs testing. It is entirely possible that the mother denied the school (and her child) this avenue. Once again, this is considered CONFIDENTIAL information. Employees of the school can be fired and sued for releasing this kind of information about a specific child. The school itself can lose federal funding and be "taken over" by the state for such violations.
    There is alway MORE to a story than is reported by the press. Follow-up stories will probably give more information.
    IMHO, I think the school probably had done everything else that it could legally do and was out of options. (Yes, I did see the video.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally
    I saw the video too. Five year olds have been throwing tantrums as long as there have been five year olds. If this teacher lacks the intelligence or ability to handle a five year old, then she has no business being in the classroom. And the video clearly shows that the little girl was SITTING DOWN and the police picked her up, leaned her over a table and cuffed her.
    Sally, HOW would you have handled her? You can not touch her, you can not spank her, you can not yell at her or make her feel bad about herself.

    I think the handculfs were over the top, but teachers can not handle five year olds because the rules have changed. Her mother will get rich because SHE did not do her job.

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    Smart teacher to tape it and call the police...if she had even held the child the parents would have sued...naow at least they have the tantrum on video....and the cops did the right thing too...if they restrained her physicallly they would have been accused of police brutality...I saw some of the video and if this little girl is acting this way with the teacher...wonder what she's doing to the other students who are her size!!! She needs a spanking big time!!

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