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    CAN we discuss crimewatch discrepancies please

    ok I watched it the majority of it is taken up of the story of the McCanns then the last bit is of the investigation.

    Basically nothing new apart from a few odd things.

    1.The sighting Jane Tanner.

    At the time, it was thought that this was a person taking a child home from the creche, it was investigated BUT no one came forward so it stood. It went from someone walking to eventually someone walking with Maddy wearing pink PJ.

    2. The window and shutter.

    In the crimewatch article the window and shutters and curtains are again OPEN.

    3. Madelines bed.

    It is cleary stated by Redwood that maddy slept UNDER THE WINDOW.

    4. The open bedroom door

    It is stated that the bedroom door was found open twice. Once by Gerry who closed it further again, and once by the mother.

    5. The Smiths sighting.

    The Smiths were called liers and other not nice things when they came forward and said they saw GERRY carrying the child towards the beach. They said it looked like him and carried the same way. They saw this person in full view at 10pm.

    So thats if folks. Several people were seen around which were talked about at the time and no one came forward.

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    OK for me.

    Q1.

    The met police are only ASSUMING now the sighting COULD be this guy carrying his daughter home from the creche. He never said it was positively this guy. ALSO why did this person simply not come forward at the time they were still there, and it would have been fresh in their memory? Very odd. After SIX years and many many appeals for information. i believe the PJ never did credit her story anyway.

    Q2.

    How come again the window and shutter is shown open? I thought this was discredited? Also if the shutter was open why was the door open it would have been shut surely with the wind coming through gently......and you would have felt the cold air as you came into the flat and the door if open would have banged shut straight away. No I am confused about this.....

    So we are to assume now the person carried the chlid out of the window.

    Q3. The childs bed has always been shown by the door. unless i am going nuts I am sure Redwood said she slept UNDER the window.

    Q4. The door...well the child could have gone to the toilet..not sure about the door to be honest. Did the abductor come in the patio door and go out the window? WHY. Seems very odd choice....

    Q5. The Smiths sighting. Well the only thing i will say about this is why would an abductor or even Gerry be seen strowling along with a child in full view. NON of the sightings actually made any sense to me.

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    So any thoughts?

    I have to say nothing new for me not really i always knew the tanner sighting was bogus anyway.

    NEW THEORY on the table burglary gone wrong. Well I said that at the beginning, then why would you take the child away....didnt make much sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldengirl57 View Post
    ok I watched it the majority of it is taken up of the story of the McCanns then the last bit is of the investigation.

    Basically nothing new apart from a few odd things.

    1.The sighting Jane Tanner.

    At the time, it was thought that this was a person taking a child home from the creche, it was investigated BUT no one came forward so it stood. It went from someone walking to eventually someone walking with Maddy wearing pink PJ.

    2. The window and shutter.

    In the crimewatch article the window and shutters and curtains are again OPEN.

    3. Madelines bed.

    It is cleary stated by Redwood that maddy slept UNDER THE WINDOW.

    4. The open bedroom door

    It is stated that the bedroom door was found open twice. Once by Gerry who closed it further again, and once by the mother.

    5. The Smiths sighting.

    The Smiths were called liers and other not nice things when they came forward and said they saw GERRY carrying the child towards the beach. They said it looked like him and carried the same way. They saw this person in full view at 10pm.

    So thats if folks. Several people were seen around which were talked about at the time and no one came forward.

    .................................................. ..........................

    OK for me.

    Q1.

    The met police are only ASSUMING now the sighting COULD be this guy carrying his daughter home from the creche. He never said it was positively this guy. ALSO why did this person simply not come forward at the time they were still there, and it would have been fresh in their memory? Very odd. After SIX years and many many appeals for information. i believe the PJ never did credit her story anyway.

    Q2.

    How come again the window and shutter is shown open? I thought this was discredited? Also if the shutter was open why was the door open it would have been shut surely with the wind coming through gently......and you would have felt the cold air as you came into the flat and the door if open would have banged shut straight away. No I am confused about this.....

    So we are to assume now the person carried the chlid out of the window.

    Q3. The childs bed has always been shown by the door. unless i am going nuts I am sure Redwood said she slept UNDER the window.

    Q4. The door...well the child could have gone to the toilet..not sure about the door to be honest. Did the abductor come in the patio door and go out the window? WHY. Seems very odd choice....

    Q5. The Smiths sighting. Well the only thing i will say about this is why would an abductor or even Gerry be seen strowling along with a child in full view. NON of the sightings actually made any sense to me.

    .................................................. ......................

    So any thoughts?

    I have to say nothing new for me not really i always knew the tanner sighting was bogus anyway.

    NEW THEORY on the table burglary gone wrong. Well I said that at the beginning, then why would you take the child away....didnt make much sense.
    IMO the whole thing is a load of crap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    IMO the whole thing is a load of crap.


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    A lot of Obfuscation ..........

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    Watching now .. what a terrible show!
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    Now, I remember something in the first few weeks about a chap saying he passed the top of the road with his child who had been to the creche. Andy Redwood said this was recent information so WTF is that about ?
    How an abductor levitated over the window sill is another load of old Pony that was discredited at the time, lichen was still in place when the crime scene people were taking finger prints.
    I agree it's a load of crap, unfortunately my taxes have paid for this 5million load of crap and that sticks in my throat.

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    I couldn't watch the program, but heard a summary on the radio. Points I picked up on:

    Police now believe it was likely a planned abduction.

    Besides the man seen carrying the little girl, police also want to speak to two Germans seen acting suspiciously. The 'Germans' might be Dutch, police say, as they think English people can't tell the difference between the accents.

    The program airs here in Germany Wednesday.

    On radio now, reporter in Portugual

    Lots of journalists here.
    Doesn't seem to be massive debate here
    The Met do depend on Portuguese police
    If someone is arrested the investigation/prosecution will depend on Portuguese police
    Impression is two forces are co-operating well
    Crimewatch airs Holland tonight, Germany Wednesday and also Ireland as that's where tourists come from

    Slightly vague about why it's not showing in Portugual. Reading between the lines - lack of interest.
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    Can anyone confirm if the Efit is supposed to be the 'Germans' or the man seen carrying the child?
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    Ah, the video seems to have gone up here

    http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html

    Not sure if it's the entireprogram
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    A few things stuck out to me like a red flag.

    Madelines bed. The twins cots were inbetween the two beds in that room. It would have been hard if not impossible for a person to have removed her accessing the side of the bed to remove her. Therefore they would have had to crawl up the bed to remove a sleeping child without waking her or her siblings. This would have been very awkward no matter which side of the room she slept on.


    The apartment door Apparently was left unlocked....so why the open window. Why on earth would someone try and get a sleeping child out of a window of that size when there is an open door?.

    The sightings The Smiths swear the person they saw was Jerry after seeing him exit an aeroplane holding one of the twins the same way this man was holding the child they saw. The Tanner sighting to me seems so odd, why was this not cleared up six years ago.

    Its all a smokescreen if you ask me. The whole thing was a mess from the start. They have basically called the portugese police incompetent, when to be honest they are the ones who found the blood splatters and the dog alert.

    I am afraid we will just never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    Can anyone confirm if the Efit is supposed to be the 'Germans' or the man seen carrying the child?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24528530

    Earlier, detectives releasing two e-fit images of a man said a family had seen him with a blond-haired child of three or four, possibly wearing pyjamas, heading away from the McCanns' holiday apartment.

    The witnesses said the man was white, 20 to 40 years old and of medium build. He had short brown hair, was clean-shaven and of medium height, they added.

    DCI Redwood said he could be the man who took Madeleine - but there could be an innocent explanation.
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    It's not working on my ipad. Just sound, no pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Hood View Post
    Now, I remember something in the first few weeks about a chap saying he passed the top of the road with his child who had been to the creche. Andy Redwood said this was recent information so WTF is that about ?
    How an abductor levitated over the window sill is another load of old Pony that was discredited at the time, lichen was still in place when the crime scene people were taking finger prints.
    I agree it's a load of crap, unfortunately my taxes have paid for this 5million load of crap and that sticks in my throat.

    Exactly the only prints found were the mothers.
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    "WasMadelaine McCann's kidnapper still in her room when mum went to check on her?"

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    Last edited by KateB; 04-29-2015 at 09:14 AM. Reason: repair url tag.
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    Thank you Mrs G Norris!
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