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    CA - Los Angeles, HispFem 155UFCA, 14-24, in South Central alley, Dec'92

    Here's a case that hasn't gotten much attention. This girl was found in an alley behind a burger joint on the corner of Gage and San Pedro Street. This is a pretty rough part of town just south of downtown Los Angeles.

    NamUs has her listed as between 14 and 24, but based on the postmortem photo, I would guess that she isn't much more than 16.

    The official recon doesn't look very close IMO, so I spent a few hours today putting together a recon of my own. I think I captured her overall look pretty accurately.


    The Doe Network:
    Case File 155UFCA
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/155ufca.html
    NamUs UP#3761 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3761




    Unidentified Hispanic Female

    Located on December 9, 1992 in South Central Los Angeles, California
    Cause of death was multiple stab wounds.

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: Over 14 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 4'6''; 127 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Black mid-back length hair; brown eyes. Medium build; dark complexion.
    Clothing: White shirt, white dress with suspenders and black leather belt with a silver tip, white bra, purple under-slip, white panites.. Barefoot. Inexpensive, silvertone band rings on right middle and index finger.

    Case History
    On December 9, 1992, this victim was found in a black plastic trash bag in an alley at the rear of 6225 South San Pedro Street, South Central Los Angeles.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-23-2016 at 05:19 AM.

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    Possibly Amanda Rivera, who went missing Oct 5th 1990 from San Diego California?http://doenetwork.org/cases/292dfca.html

    Vital Statistics
    •Date Of Birth: August 23, 1976
    •Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
    •Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'0; 110 lbs
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: White/Hispanic female. Light brown hair; brown eyes.
    •Marks, Scars: Scar on right hand.
    •Clothing: Black shorts
    •Dentals: Not available



    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Rivera was last seen as she was dropped off on Nobel Street in Spring Valley, California on October 5, 1990

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    Charlene Candace Catholique very strongly resembles this Jane Doe.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/235dfnwt.html



    But she is nearly a foot too tall (if you presume that the height listings are correct).

    Also not sure how she would have ended up in South Central LA from the Northwest Territories in Canada two years later. But there is a solid facial resemblance.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-23-2016 at 05:19 AM.

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    bump for this poor young girl. i wonder if she was wearing a school uniform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvaldez1975 View Post
    bump for this poor young girl. i wonder if she was wearing a school uniform?
    The suspenders did stand out to me as something girls that age might not generally wear.

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    Did this woman have dwarfism?

    I can't see any adult woman that does not have dwarfism having a height of 4'6. That's tiny.

    Also if she were 127 pounds at 4'6 she'd be obese. While she doesn't look terribly thin in the face she doesn't look like she'd be obese.

    But, if she is really 4'6 she should be fairly easy to identify, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmaliLucia View Post
    Did this woman have dwarfism?

    I can't see any adult woman that does not have dwarfism having a height of 4'6. That's tiny.

    Also if she were 127 pounds at 4'6 she'd be obese. While she doesn't look terribly thin in the face she doesn't look like she'd be obese.

    But, if she is really 4'6 she should be fairly easy to identify, correct?
    It is more likely that she was 5 feet 4 inches and someone accidentally noted it as 54 inches. Then someone else read 54 inches and translated back to 4 feet 6 inches. That happens more often than I would like to believe. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcoope23 View Post
    Possibly Amanda Rivera, who went missing Oct 5th 1990 from San Diego California?http://doenetwork.org/cases/292dfca.html

    Vital Statistics
    •Date Of Birth: August 23, 1976
    •Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
    •Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'0; 110 lbs
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: White/Hispanic female. Light brown hair; brown eyes.
    •Marks, Scars: Scar on right hand.
    •Clothing: Black shorts
    Dentals: Not available

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Rivera was last seen as she was dropped off on Nobel Street in Spring Valley, California on October 5, 1990

    Dentals for Amanda Rivera now available, same for UID, so she's a rule-out I suppose as long as someone called the idea in, unless she was sent in before the dental info went in and maybe someone needs to send her in again just to make sure the dentals definitely get compared?
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/6575

    EDIT: Emailed it in to Carrie Sutherland, might as well just in case
    Last edited by biscuits222; 03-02-2015 at 02:29 AM.

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    Bump.
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    Maria Medina? She went missing from the area in 1989, and does bear some resemblance to the unidentified girl. She has a pretty prominent birthmark on her leg that's not mentioned in the unidentified girl's NamUs profile, though, so it seems like a stretch.


    NamUs: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1290/8/


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    Bumping
    Who was Walker County Jane Doe?


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    any new information on this case? she was so young. someone must be looking for her or missing her

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    for image revision

    Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-28-2016 at 01:39 PM.

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    4'6" is very petite, but I've known a lot of women around that size. (Both my grandmother and step-grandma were 4'8" while at least one of my grandmother's sisters was 4'6") It's not terribly uncommon among Latin American, Native, and Asian women. Ethnic Mongolians (male and female) rarely reach 5 feet. Of course, I think this Jane Doe was quite young and maybe had a few inches left to grow.
    Last edited by Jigoku Dayu; 07-25-2016 at 01:53 AM. Reason: typo

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