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    What happened to the McStay family?

    The remains found in shallow graves in the California desert were proven to be those of Joseph, Summer, Giannia and Joseph Jr. The family went missing in February 2010 from Fallbrook, California.

    What do you think happened to them?

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    I voted: "I don't know."

    I am on the . . . which is very unusual for me because I tend to always form an opinion early on . . .

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    If it had just been the couple that went to meet someone, it could have been a stranger, but I don't think they would have taken the children unless it was someone they knew and trusted.


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    Why did the whole family have to go?
    I feel whoever did this knew the family but how were they all lead out and did the murder(s) plan to kill the kids ?

    What purpose is it to murder little children? Unless whatever ill gotten gain isn't to be had if two little kids get what was their dads?

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    I believe that someone entered their home they did not know or at least did not know well. That is why things were left out as if they left in a rush. They came in fast and made the family leave with them right away.

    I don't think they were lured. I think they were forced. All the suspect(s) had to do is grab one of the children and threaten to harm them and the parents would comply trying to protect their children from harm. All of them were murdered including the children because even small children can talk about what they have witnessed, imo.

    We have had a couple of cases here where even 2 year olds saw their parent murdered and were able to tell LE what was said and what was done and did it in rather great detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    I believe that someone entered their home they did not know or at least did not know well. That is why things were left out as if they left in a rush. They came in fast and made the family leave with them right away.

    I don't think they were lured. I think they were forced. All the suspect(s) had to do is grab one of the children and threaten to harm them and the parents would comply trying to protect their children from harm. All of them were murdered including the children because even small children can talk about what they have witnessed, imo.

    We have had a couple of cases here where even 2 year olds saw their parent murdered and were able to tell LE what was said and what was done and did it in rather great detail.

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    I think they were forced as well. But the closest option to what i think happened was lured by someone they knew. I don't think this was a thrill kill. The burial, the graves, the murder of all 4, including the kids, smacks of someone who knew them and wanted to cove their tracks. Serial killers tend to dump bodies in remote areas and don't spend a huge amount of time burying them. And the kids may have been killed so they couldn't ID who did it. A stranger wouldn't worry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    I think they were forced as well. But the closest option to what i think happened was lured by someone they knew. I don't think this was a thrill kill. The burial, the graves, the murder of all 4, including the kids, smacks of someone who knew them and wanted to cove their tracks. Serial killers tend to dump bodies in remote areas and don't spend a huge amount of time burying them. And the kids may have been killed so they couldn't ID who did it. A stranger wouldn't worry about that.
    Morning gitana. LTNS!

    It may have been a professional hit and those kind of suspects tend to cover their tracks. By that I mean, they are thorough at hiding bodies. This was just a happenstance that this family's remains were ever found.

    I am not sure I agree that a stranger wouldn't kill other witnesses though, (young or old.)

    I have seen/read of too many cases over the years where complete strangers did kill everyone because it left no one behind to tell what happened. Today in society the motto of a lot of criminals seems to be 'leave no witness behind.' It doesn't matter if they know them are not.
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    The murders have to benefit someone. It's a large load to take on the slaughter and concealment of a whole family...there had to be a payoff, something to make the effort and the risk of capture and punishment (because the publicity and investigation would be intense) worth it.

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    I believe someone they knew lured them out of the home. Yet, the missing futon cover sometimes makes me want to say they were killed there. I went with someone they knew lured them out.

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    How much was the amount of money in the fraudulent attempt by MM to remove funds that weren't his? Someone know the amount off hand?

    Also, I do think that people can be murdered for jealousy, revenge, or rage issues or to silence someone about something. I wouldn't ever assume money as the only viable motive. MOO


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    I agree with the jealousy, revenge, and rage.
    Someone got PO'ed about something.

    Who I think killed them... someone connected to the new area and/or the new house remodel. JMO

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    I think the boys were just as much targets as their parents. This murder seems so planned out, they would have known there were toddlers in the house. They could have come in masked and locked the boys in one of the bedrooms and taken the parents, but they wanted this whole family. Okay, the children had to be taken so the family fleeing to Mexico of their own free will would play out, but the idea of killing the little boys would have to give anyone pause even if it is to check themselves and see if they could live with the consequences. They could have come up with another plan to keep those boys alive if they wanted but the murderer went after the boys too. It was a decision. They targeted the little ones as much as they did the parents. Why, I don't know yet. Just pure hate.

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    I think Joey got told something that day and he knew they were in danger. He got Summer and the kids and tried to get away but they didnt make it.And I think its got something to do with coming up with quite a bit of money in a short time. jmo

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    I feel they were abducted and lured by someone they knew considering
    there was not any evidence found and there has been no arrest to date.
    The children were killed because they could make an ID. This was a crime of
    pure hate, either having to do with jealousy, rage, revenge and/or money.
    I do not know who the main target was but the person, person(s) wanted to eliminate the whole family for the above reasons.

    A stranger would not go to all this trouble or planning. There was too much rage here, they killed the children, Pure Evil. No evidence was left and the bodies took years to find. Not the work of a random killer, killer(s). There was a motive for these murders.
    Summer and Joey would have done anything to protect their children. They knew the killer(s) and were lured and I believe they did not know they were going to be killed.

    My heart is in a shambles and I pray for an arrest.
    I think LE is targeting someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    Why did the whole family have to go?
    I feel whoever did this knew the family but how were they all lead out and did the murder(s) plan to kill the kids ?

    What purpose is it to murder little children? Unless whatever ill gotten gain isn't to be had if two little kids get what was their dads?
    I do not believe the motive lies with the children. They were simply caught up in it and there with their parents. I believe they left the house suddenly because they knew they were in danger and whoever was after them knew where they lived. Now the fact that whoever was after them caught up to them even after they left the house is very telling IMO and suggests that someone known (quite well) to the family is at least indirectly involved in what happened. Someone is not going to flee their home with their children because they know they are in danger and then go meet up with the very person they feel is the threat. That makes zero sense. I just really believe there is someone that they trusted mixed up in this. Im not convinced that person was directly involved or complicit in their murders but they were definitely involved in the circumstances that led to the murders and aware of the motive and who the killers would be. That's just my opinion though.
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