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    Stranger moves into familys home while they are away visiting dying relative

    A family from Springfield, Ohio, returned home from visiting a dying relative only to find a stranger had moved into their home and changed the locks.

    Even worse for the family, who wish to remain anonymous, the intruder may have the law on his side.

    The new "owner" of the house is Robert Carr. He pounced when the family went to see their ill relative. Not only did he change the locks, he also emptied the house and produced court documents to show he was the owner, reported The Blaze website.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...#ixzz2mGYFN2Qa


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    What the ........?????

    That is insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reader View Post
    A family from Springfield, Ohio, returned home from visiting a dying relative only to find a stranger had moved into their home and changed the locks.

    Even worse for the family, who wish to remain anonymous, the intruder may have the law on his side.

    The new "owner" of the house is Robert Carr. He pounced when the family went to see their ill relative. Not only did he change the locks, he also emptied the house and produced court documents to show he was the owner, reported The Blaze website.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...#ixzz2mGYFN2Qa
    Don't know why the family isn't fighting this man. How can Carr take the house as an 'abandoned' home if the family was living there? If Carr gets away with this theft beware if you own vacant land or are away from home for any period of time!

    Reminds me of the judge in colorado who sucessfully sued to take about one third of his neighbor's small lot. Judge's lot didn't have good access to backyard from the front yard, so the judge and his wife used part of the lot as their own. And even though the rightful owner and his wife paid taxes on the lot and planned to build on it someday, they lost a huge portion of the lot to the judge who IMO legally stole it.
    The judge and his wife didn't pay for the land or pay taxes...yet ended up with the 'access' area of the neighbor's lot.
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    This is absolutely crazy! It sounds like this guy, Robert Carr, has a group of people out scouting for these houses to swoop in and take over....wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Me View Post
    Don't know why the family isn't fighting this man. How can Carr take the house as an 'abandoned' home if the family was living there? If Carr gets away with this theft beware if you own vacant land or are away from home for any period of time!

    Reminds me of the judge in colorado who sucessfully sued to take about one third of his neighbor's small lot. Judge's lot didn't have good access to backyard from the front yard, so the judge and his wife used part of the lot as their own. And even though the rightful owner and his wife paid taxes on the lot and planned to build on it someday, they lost a huge portion of the lot to the judge who IMO legally stole it.
    The judge and his wife didn't pay for the land or pay taxes...yet ended up with the 'access' area of the neighbor's lot.
    They are fighting. Was the house really empty though like the guy says? Where is their furniture?


    The family have now begun legal action. Their attorney said it had been a stressful time for them.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...#ixzz2mGhpMY7s
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    According to the OP link, HE emptied the house. There is also a video at the link where the owner says he came through a window. The reporter says Carr was charged one time with B&E but returned the papers, writing 'not accepted.' She also interviewed the an FBI agent about it.

    An investigation by a local channel, WLWT-TV, found at least a dozen similar cases involving Carr.
    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...#ixzz2mGob83R0


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    It seems all those publications are failing to report on the Posse Comitas and the 'sovereign citizen' aspect or possibility to the whole thing. Sometimes, history repeats itself, sort of.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ners-town.html

    - Homes are taken by Carr who is a 'sovereign citizen', who believes he can pick and choose which laws to obey, particularly tax and property laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reader View Post
    According to the OP link, HE emptied the house. There is also a video at the link where the owner says he came through a window. The reporter says Carr was charged one time with B&E but returned the papers, writing 'not accepted.' She also interviewed the an FBI agent about it.



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    Yeah where is all the family's stuff? Throw away? Sold? Given away? In storage?

    I'd like to know Carr's 'team of people' are. Appears the 'team' is extremely efficient in changing the locks and emptying the house, but extremely stupid in determining if a property is really abandoned.
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    Look at what this criminal nut did when they tried to charge him for stealing another house.

    http://www.wlwt.com/blob/view/-/2315...indictment.pdf

    What a complete waste of taxpayers money and the courts time this waste of human space is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.b.nora View Post
    It seems all those publications are failing to report on the Posse Comitas and the 'sovereign citizen' aspect or possibility to the whole thing. Sometimes, history repeats itself, sort of.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ners-town.html

    - Homes are taken by Carr who is a 'sovereign citizen', who believes he can pick and choose which laws to obey, particularly tax and property laws
    He can pick and choose which laws to obey? Can this family declare itself 'sovereign citizens' and take their home back?

    Carr is using 'sovereign citizen' aspect only to line his pockets at the expense of others. He is low and slimy....he belongs on Wall Street.
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    FEMA's link for Emergency Supplies list below or what you need to survive for three days in case help is not immediately available to you.
    http://www.ready.gov/document/family-supply-list

    You can also purchase a weather radio which will inform you of severe weather even if your electricity goes out. Runs on batteries of course.


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    The rest of the documents filed can be found in this article.

    http://www.wlwt.com/news/wlwt-invest...e/-/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeginnersLuck View Post
    Look at what this criminal nut did when they tried to charge him for stealing another house.

    http://www.wlwt.com/blob/view/-/2315...indictment.pdf

    What a complete waste of taxpayers money and the courts time this waste of human space is.
    He gets arrested and claims the police 'kidnapped' him?

    Okay I've changed my mind....he's not only a crook but a loony crook at that.
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    Tor:Con Index link below. Will show you the probability of a tornado happening in your area.
    http://www.weather.com/news/tornado-torcon-index

    FEMA's link for Emergency Supplies list below or what you need to survive for three days in case help is not immediately available to you.
    http://www.ready.gov/document/family-supply-list

    You can also purchase a weather radio which will inform you of severe weather even if your electricity goes out. Runs on batteries of course.

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    "The antigovernment movement has grown in recent years and is rooted in the anti-Semitic, anti-black and anti-tax Posse Comitatus movement of the 1970s and 1980s.

    Most recent recruits to the sovereign citizens movement found themselves in desperate situations, often due to the economy or foreclosure, and are drawn to the idea of easy money or living free of legal consequences.

    Sovereign citizens are becoming well-known by the courts for filing astronomical liens against banks, attorneys and government employees.

    While these are usually unsuccessful, they can be expensive to fight and take a long time to resolve.

    The FBI has been informed about the case but won't comment on the specifics."

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    What a wierdo.

    He should try this stunt in Texas and see what happens.

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    he's got quite the little smirk

    he's filed this same paperwork 11 other times!!!

    the article says the family is foreclosing so I wonder if that means it looked abandoned inside? (not that it matters to me - he's an opportunistic nightmare IMO)

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