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    OK - Jamison Family: Truck, IDs and Dog Found Abandoned 08 Oct 2009 - #12

    Daily and Sunday Oklahoman articles of importance:

    Skeletal remains found in Latimer County could be missing Eufaula family, OSBI says. (18 Nov 2013)

    Jamison family was threatened by relative before vanishing, records show. (27 Nov 2013)

    Eufaula family’s fate remains mystery. (02 May 2010)

    Eufaula man filed lawsuit against father. (02 May 2010)

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    x see below for OkieGranny's excellent timeline.
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    Oriah's case overview (from #609 thread 11 by soulmagent)

    OkieGranny's transcripts from the IDC Discovery show "Paradise Lost"

    Part 1


    Part 2


    Part 3


    Part 4


    The show itself, at YouTube
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    If you have it, could you please post link to all the truck photos?

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    Okay, here's a slightly updated version. Added a few items but the timeline is STILL NOT COMPLETE. Feel free to offer any additions, subtractions, and/or corrections. If you want to add something, please provide a source. This is still very much a work in progress.

    Jamison Family Timeline

    Mar 3, 1965: Marriage license issued for Bobby Sr and Star
    http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=03...37-MLI+1800251

    Aug 4, 1965: Bobby was born

    Nov 5, 1968: Sherilyn was born

    Oct 1993: Sherilyn and her son's father were married
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...67&db=Oklahoma

    Sep 1994: Sherilyn's son was born

    Sep 30, 1996: Sherilyn was divorced from her son's father in Galveston, TX
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma

    1998: Sherilyn and NS first met in the OKC metro area and became friends

    Aug 27, 2002: Sherilyn filed suit against her ex-husband in family/domestic court
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma

    Aug 1, 2003: Madyson was born

    Nov 8, 2003: Bobby's back was injured in a car accident
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...62&db=Oklahoma

    Dec 2003: Sherilyn was assaulted by her brother while she was holding 4-month-old Madyson
    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/okla...NM07K/post1396

    July 2004: Bobby and Sherilyn were married in Hot Springs, AR
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0931194&type=1

    Jul 20, 2004: Bobby took out a mortgage in the amount of $112,500 on the Eufaula house from Chickasha Bank & Trust
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...42165/11754350

    Nov 23, 2004: Bobby Sr wrote the will that Star would file in probate court after their divorce and his death, leaving his estate to their marital trust
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Jan 27, 2005: Bobby and Sherilyn took out a mortgage in the amount of $125,700 on the Eufaula house from America's Wholesale Lender
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...48191/11778107

    May 3, 2005: Bobby filed suit against three defendants re: the traffic accident that injured his back
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...62&db=Oklahoma

    Jun 30, 2005: Release of Mortgage filed by Chickasha Bank & Trust on the Eufaula house
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...53081/11782955

    Oct 18, 2005: Modification of Mortgage filed on Eufaula house, grantee Countrywide Home Loans
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...57798/11788715

    Nov 7, 2006: Bobby took out a mortgage in the amount of $60,000 on the Eufaula house (a 2nd mortgage?)
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...66222/11797344

    Mar 28, 2007: Bobby dismissed with prejudice the traffic accident suit
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...62&db=Oklahoma

    Sep 25, 2007: Sherilyn's sister Marla died from a reaction to a bee sting on her tongue in Columbus, OH
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #1.

    Feb 14, 2008: Sherilyn sued ex-husband for back child support of $31,949.20
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma

    May 23, 2008: JT WD (warranty deed issued?) to Bobby and Sherilyn for additional lots near Eufaula house
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...79505/11814642

    Jun 10, 2008: Warranty deed issued to Bobby and Sherilyn on Eufaula house
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...81463/11819571

    Jun 10, 2008: Bobby and Sherilyn took out a mortgage from Countrywide Bank in the amount of $208,000 on the Eufaula house
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...81464/11819573

    Jun 30, 2008: Release of Mortgage issued by Mortgage Elect Regis Sys on Eufaula house
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...80707/11817163

    Jul 9, 2008: Release of Mortgage issued by Mortgage Elect Regis Sys on Eufaula house (1st and 2nd mortgage?)
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...80934/11817624

    Sep 24, 2008: Bobby Sr filed for divorce from Star
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...5&db=Cleveland

    Oct 27, 2008: Bobby Sr wrote a new will leaving his estate in trust to Madyson, specifically excluding Star and Bobby Jr, included simultaneous death clause, named brother JJ administrator and brother AJ back-up administrator
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Nov 1, 2008: Bobby Sr tried to run over Bobby Jr with his car
    http://newsok.com/jamison-family-was...rticle/3909260

    Nov 4, 2008: Star filed protective order against Bobby Sr in McIntosh County, OK
    http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=04...46-PO++0800061

    Dec 2008: The Jamisons' Eufaula house burned down.

    Feb 27, 2009: Arvest Bank filed suit against Bobby Sr dba 149th Street Tree farm for credit card debt of $8,627.89 plus accrued interest
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...5&db=Cleveland

    Mar 2009: In a 2010 interview in The Oklahoman, Sherilyn's mother said she lived with Bobby and Sherilyn from March to June of 2009
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #4.

    Apr 14, 2009: Bobby Sr and Star participated in settlement negotiations re: division of marital property in their pending divorce
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    late Apr 2009: Bobby Sr threatened Bobby and Sherilyn
    http://newsok.com/jamison-family-was...rticle/3909260

    May 1, 2009: Bobby Jr filed protective order againstBobby Sr in McIntosh County, OK
    http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=04...46-PO++0900035

    May 7, 2009: Bobby Sr was served re: protective order
    http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=04...46-PO++0900035

    May 11, 2009: Bobby Jr filed suit against Bobby Sr and Star over the gas station
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...61&db=Oklahoma

    May 18, 2009: Court dismissed the protective order against Bobby Sr following a hearing
    http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=04...46-PO++0900035

    May 18, 2009: Bobby Sr and brother JJ filed a report with Eufaula DHS re: Bobby and Sherilyn
    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/okla...M07K/p63#c1287

    May 27, 2009: Arvest Bank won default judgment against Bobby Sr dba 1489th Street Tree Farm for credit card debit of $8,627.89 plus accrued interest, $1,200 in legal fees, and $284.30 in court costs
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...5&db=Cleveland

    June 2009: In a 2010 interview in The Oklahoman, Sherilyn's mother said she lived with them from March to June of 2009
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #4.

    Jun 2009: Something significant happened; can't tell what that was from court records, but it prompted the emergency custody hearing over Sherilyn's son
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma

    Jun 19, 2009: Summons served to Bobby Sr re: gas station suit
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...61&db=Oklahoma

    Jun 23, 2009: Court awarded temporary custody of Sherilyn's son to her ex-husband
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma

    July 2009: Star lived with Bobby and Sherilyn in the Eufaula house

    July 2009: The handyman KB moved in

    Jul 15, 2009: Court awarded full custody of Sherilyn's son to her ex-husband
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma

    Jul 25, 2009: Last photos of the family on Blackberry before the trip to Panola Mountain, showing Sherilyn, Bobby, and Madyson at home

    Jul 28, 2009: Bobby Sr filed response to Bobby Jr's gas station suit
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...61&db=Oklahoma

    Aug 2009: Bobby Sr was placed in a nursing home
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #3.

    Aug 2009: Sherilyn fired shots into the ground near handyman KB's feet after feeling threatened by him
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #6.

    Aug 17, 2009: Decree of Dissolution of Marriage issued by the court re: the divorce of Bobby Sr and Star
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...5&db=Cleveland

    Aug 29, 2009: Photo of Madyson when she still had her front teeth
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0931194&type=1

    Sep 1, 2009: Sherilyn's last visit with NS in OKC, had just come from Star's and had her half of the $64,000 settlement from the land sale with her
    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/okla...NM07K/post1882

    Sep 1 or 3: Sherilyn in St Anthony's Hospital, OKC, following suicide attempt
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #7.

    Sep 2, 2009: Three photos taken on Blackberry of graffiti on shipping container in the Jamisons' driveway

    Sep 10, 2009: Sherilyn released from St Anthony's Hospital, OKC, following suicide attempt
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...121549&page=23.

    Sep 2009 (estimated): Madyson's front teeth were knocked out when she was hit in the mouth by a swing in a playground accident at school

    Sep 2009: Sherilyn visited family in Ohio, according to the mother of Sherilyn's nephew
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #2.

    Sep 21, 2009: Bobby or Sherilyn called Latimer County District 3 at 1:57 PM

    Sep 28, 2009: Star last spoke with the family

    Oct 2009: According to phone records, Bobby spent over an hour looking into buying homeschool materials for Madyson
    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/okla...M07K/p60#c1220

    Oct 5, 2009: Last call from Sherilyn's cell phone, was not to ex-husband

    Oct 7, 2009: First trip to the mountain, the family bought gas in Porum, OK:
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #3.

    • 8:55 AM Call from home phone to out-of-state land owner
    • 9:18 AM Bobby checked his voicemail
    • 9:19 AM Bobby called an unidentified Eufaula number and spoke for 37 minutes
    • 9:26 AM received a call waiting call from an unidentified Eufaula number and spoke for 31 minutes (maybe a 3 way call?)
    • 9:57 AM Call from home phone to a Muskogee cell phone number
    • 9:58 AM Call from home phone to a Muskogee cell phone number
    • 2:41 PM Bobby checked his voicemail
    • 12:42 PM Bobby called the church family and spoke for 11 minutes
    • 1:38 PM Bobby called the land owners that live out of state (2 minutes)
    • 1:40 PM Bobby called them back again for 2 more minutes
    • 1:55 PM Bobby checked his voicemail
    • 1:56 PM Bobby checked his voicemail
    • 1:58 PM Bobby called an unidentified Eufaula number (1 minutes)
    • 1:59 PM Bobby checked his voicemail
    • 2:02 PM Bobby called back the mystery Eufaula number (1minute)
    • 2:06 PM Bobby called back the land owners (1minute)
    • 2:07 PM Land owners called Bobby (3 minutes)
    • 2:15 PM Land owners called Bobby (2 minutes)
    • 2:16 PM Bobby appears to have tried to call the lady that lives on the mountain but misdialed? One of the numbers is not right, but all the rest are (1min.).
    • 2:18 PM Bobby called the property owners (1 minute)
    • 9:18 PM Bobby checked his voicemail
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #7.

    Oct 8, 2009: Second trip to the mountain, the family bought gas again in Porum, OK:
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #3.

    • 8:09AM Bobby called the lady on mountain (101min.)
    • 12:53 PM Photos of two well site signs taken on the Blackberry
    • 1:50 PM Bobby dialed voicemail; it has his number in the number called like all the other VMAIL calls, but instead of saying VMAIL it says BRISTO OK
    • 2:47 PM Final photo of Madyson taken on the Blackberry
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #7.

    Oct 12, 2009: Blackberry activity, odd voicemail calls:

    • 6:00PM BRISTO OK
    • 8:00PM Incoming call
    • 8:50PM incoming call
    • 8:51PM BRISTO OK
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #7.

    Oct 13, 2009: Incoming call on the Blackberry at 5:27 PM
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #7.

    Oct 17, 2009: A local resident called 911 to report the abandoned truck
    http://www.mcalesternews.com/x546245...eadpicturestor

    Oct 18, 2009: Bank bag with $32,000 found in the truck, which was finally taped off as a possible corm scene, deputies searched the surrounding area
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs and Dog Found Abandoned, 8 Oct 2009 - #11.

    Oct 22, 2009: LE learned of security video at Jamisons' home
    http://www.mcalesternews.com/x546245...eadpicturestor

    Oct 23, 2009: Star and Bobby Sr's marital home was sold for $175,000
    http://www.clevelandcountyassessor.u...count=R0054059

    Oct 23, 2009: Sherilyn's mother claimed Star had gotten a court order to take possession of Bobby and Sherilyn's house, vehicles, and personal property, said she had no money to fight Star on this
    http://*************.net/index.php?topic=6343.20

    Oct 24, 2009: Beginning of black powder hunting season, search suspended
    http://newsok.com/article/3411584

    Oct 29, 2009: Search warrant executed on the truck by the OSBI
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #5.

    Nov 6, 2009: Judgment awarded to Arvest Bank re: Bobby Sr dba 149th Street Tree Farm credit card debt suit was paid in full
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...5&db=Cleveland

    Dec 10, 2009: Bobby Sr died of congestive heart failure
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Dec 12, 2009: Bobby Sr's funeral service at Apostolic Faith Church in Sallisaw, OK
    http://agentfuneralhome.com/z_Jamison_BD.html

    Dec 16, 2009: Star filed Bobby Sr's 2004 will in probate court, was appointed administrator
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Dec 18, 2009: Brother JJ filed Bobby Sr's 2008 will in probate court, was appointed administrator, estimated assets of $498,100 not including personal property or real estate
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Feb 4, 2010: Brother JJ was served a subpoena requiring that he provide extensive financial and trust-related records re: Bobby Sr's estate
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Feb 12, 2010: Brother JJ filed motion to quash the subpoena as an undue burden, but did not object to his deposition being taken
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Feb 19, 2010: Brother JJ filed a motion to dismiss Star's probate challenge
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Feb 22, 2010: Brother JJ filed a brief regarding Bobby Sr and Star's marital trust and divorce
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Mar 4, 2010: Order admitting Bobby Sr's 2008 will to probate, brothers JJ and AJ waive their appointments as administrators, Star is once again appointed administrator of Bobby Sr's estate
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Mar 25, 2010: Brothers JJ and AJ filed affidavits renouncing their appointment as administrators of Bobby Sr's estate
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Mar 26, 2010: Court signed off on Global Family Settlement Agreement, brothers JJ and AJ bow out for a one-time payment of $90,000 each, Star now has full control of Bobby Sr's estate
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Apr 9, 2010: Star bought a house in OKC for $111,000
    http://www.clevelandcountyassessor.u...count=R0060898

    May 18, 2010: NS interviewed for Disappeared program
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0931194&type=1

    Dec 6, 2010: Discovery ID channel premiered the episode about the Jamisons
    http://youtu.be/ImJbfVTu2kQ?t=4s

    Mar 26, 2011: NS posted on FTJ that she took two PIs up on Panola Mountain, claimed locals fired warning shots
    https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMI...11817612167649

    Apr 13, 2011: Israel Beauchamp resigned as sheriff of Latimer County
    https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMI...16047428411334

    Jun 19, 2011: NS posted on FTJ that she had just bought Bobby's truck from Star
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...al_comments=23

    Sep 14, 2011: NS interviewed for OETA program
    https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMI...85874434761966

    Sep 16, 2011: The OETA program was broadcast
    http://www.oeta.tv/component/video/2479.html

    Apr 2012: Star sold Bobby and Sherilyn's house on Lake Eufaula, asking price per real estate listing was $279,000
    https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMI...ter=3&ustart=1
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs and Dog Found Abandoned, 8 Oct 2009 - #11.

    Jun 13, 2012: Warranty deed issued to buyer of Bobby and Sherilyn's Eufaula house, Star was Acting Guardian of the family's estate
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...03553/11871498

    Jun 26, 2012: Latimer County elected a new sheriff, JJ; third sheriff in four years since the Jamison family went missing
    http://newsok.com/oklahoma-elections...rticle/3688002

    Jul 24, 2012: NS announced on FTJ that she and Star were no longer a team, very critical of Star's behavior and priorities
    https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMI...07054809310593

    Aug 1, 2012: Release of Mortgage issued by Bank of America on Bobby and Sherilyn's Eufaula house
    https://okcountyrecords.com/detail/m...04220/11871793

    Sep 2012: Star bought Bobby's truck back from NS

    Jun 20, 2013: Star sold Bobby Sr's Enterprise Rent-A-Car property at I-240 and Shields in OKC for $215,000
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Aug 15, 2013: Star as ex-wife filed a Consent and Waiver to allow Star as administrator of Bobby Sr's estate to sell any real or personal property of the estate, waiving the filing of final accounting for presentation the the court
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Aug 28, 2013: Order issued by the Oklahoma Tax Commission exempting Bobby Sr's estate from payment of estate and inheritance taxes
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...80&db=Oklahoma

    Oct 23, 2013: NS posted a request on FTJ for a computer whiz to help her figure out all the stuff she found on the Jamisons' computer, said Star had given it to her
    https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMI...39623292720409

    Nov 16, 2013: Remains of two adults and a child found in the Smokestack Hollow area of Panola Mountain

    Nov 27, 2013: An incident report released by the LCSO indicated that the remains consisted of three skulls, bones, bone fragments, shoes, and bits of clothing.
    http://newsok.com/jamison-family-was...909260/?page=2
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    File under.....various little tiddly-bits:

    Two highly unofficial poll-type things - vote twice if necessary, still free both times. Heck, ten times.

    So....if it's them, how long do you think the remains were at the place where they were found? They were last seen the ninth but the truck went unreported till the 17th.

    1. Since very shortly after they disappeared. They died at the site.
    2. Since within a week. They died at the site.
    3. Since within a week; killed elsewhere then bodies left at site.
    4. Since within a month; killed elsewhere, left at site after primary search ended.
    5. Their remains were taken to the site during the interim years of their disappearance.
    and....

    "The % Poll" - basically a reckoning of what happened to the Jamisons, in your estimation: were they murdered? murder-suicide? died of exposure? something else, you name it? Choices are limited only by your imagination. Choose one or more and list the percentage of belief you have in each choice, i.e., mine from last thread:
    I'm going
    • 70% murder by local(s)
    • 20% murder by other(s)
    • 10% got lost / died of exposure
    The caveat here of course is the remains still are not unofficially ID'd at this writing.

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    Formal ID

    Correct me if I am wrong but LE hasn't officially confirmed the bodies to be that of the Jamisons. I mean we all can assume it's them and we are probably correct. I just find it odd that the McStay family was IDed within a few days of their bodies being found but we still have no official ID of the Jamisons. Does anyone else find this odd?

    I'd also be interested to see if they can find out if there was any poison or venom (like from a snake) in them prior to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nack17 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but LE hasn't officially confirmed the bodies to be that of the Jamisons. I mean we all can assume it's them and we are probably correct. I just find it odd that the McStay family was IDed within a few days of their bodies being found but we still have no official ID of the Jamisons. Does anyone else find this odd?

    I'd also be interested to see if they can find out if there was any poison or venom (like from a snake) in them prior to death.
    So noted above, and no, I don't think it odd. See thread #11 for info on Oklahoma's hugely "challenged" Medical Examiner's Office - 1300 case backlog, etc. etc.

    As for the chances it's them, these must be close to 100% - no other trio has been reported missing on Panola. Barring a colossal visual misidentification - these turn out to be, say, skulls from Native Americans or mountaineers from days gone by - it's them.

    The remains are reported to be skulls, bones, and bone fragments. Not sure we'll ever know the causes of death, whatever the case.

    I'm not sure if forensic anthropology will come into play in this matter but if it does, OK does have the benefit of Dr. Clyde Snow, who lives near OKC. Dr. Snow will be 86 in January and I have no idea if he might be associated with this case, but if he's needed and if he does become, that's a huge asset. Google him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieGranny View Post
    Okay, here's a slightly updated version. Added a few items but the timeline is STILL NOT COMPLETE. Feel free to offer any additions, subtractions, and/or corrections. If you want to add something, please provide a source. This is still very much a work in progress.

    Jamison Family Timeline
    Very informative post! Now I'm wondering if there was any money remaining from Bobby's PI settlement. If that case was dismissed in March 2007, and the Jamison's were needing money in 2009, doesn't it seem like they probably would have exhausted those funds. So is the $32,000 that was in the Truck more likely to be half of the proceeds from a sale of land referred to in the topix post of 9/1/09? Does anyone know where this alleged sale occurred? Does it seem like a surprising coincidence to anyone that their ship came in twice with $64,000 each time? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the timeline. If this has already been discussed, I apologize for bringing it up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nack17 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but LE hasn't officially confirmed the bodies to be that of the Jamisons. I mean we all can assume it's them and we are probably correct. I just find it odd that the McStay family was IDed within a few days of their bodies being found but we still have no official ID of the Jamisons. Does anyone else find this odd?

    I'd also be interested to see if they can find out if there was any poison or venom (like from a snake) in them prior to death.
    I could be wrong but I thought I read they found ID's on the Mcstay's at least one of them and there bones were fairly organized and skeletons on the children complete. I believe they also used dental records to confirm, and I think I also read the DNA test would take 23 days on the Mcstays.

    The Jamison's left all their ID's in their vehicles and as far as the skeletons found-they were scattered so they may not have had enough to even use dental records. So we gotta wait for the DNA test it looks like
    "Moles and trolls, moles and trolls, work, work, work, work, work. We never see the light of day. We plan this thing for weeks and all they want to do is study. I'm disgusted. I'm sorry but it's not like me, I'm depressed" Chris Knight

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    From CircuitGuy's response I gather (If I read it correctly) that our cells are constantly pinging off a tower closest to us. So my question is-Did LE get with the cell phone company and find out if their phones ever pinged off any towers that would indicate their phones (at the least) left the area of where the truck was found?
    "Moles and trolls, moles and trolls, work, work, work, work, work. We never see the light of day. We plan this thing for weeks and all they want to do is study. I'm disgusted. I'm sorry but it's not like me, I'm depressed" Chris Knight


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    Someone inquired on the old thread about the custody of her son. I read all the documents and the last one determined that "permanent, substantial and material change of conditions such that its in the best interest of the child". This could mean that Sherylin was moving a significant distance over 150 miles away and can be combined with the child getting older (needs changing) and preferring to live with his father. If I am wrong and there is a document stating the reason they awarded the father custody is due to there being a safety issue can you tell me which one it is (like the date of it) I could have missed it or not read it correctly.
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapman View Post
    Very informative post! Now I'm wondering if there was any money remaining from Bobby's PI settlement. If that case was dismissed in March 2007, and the Jamison's were needing money in 2009, doesn't it seem like they probably would have exhausted those funds. So is the $32,000 that was in the Truck more likely to be half of the proceeds from a sale of land referred to in the topix post of 9/1/09? Does anyone know where this alleged sale occurred? Does it seem like a surprising coincidence to anyone that their ship came in twice with $64,000 each time? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the timeline. If this has already been discussed, I apologize for bringing it up again.
    I went back and looked at the court documents again just to make sure, and they don't mention any settlement at all. If there was an out-of-court settlement, I don't know how much it was. If anyone can find that info, I'll be happy to add it to the timeline.

    The info about Sherilyn having $32,000 came from her BFF, who said she had just gotten her half from Bobby's mother and had it with her in a blue bank bag, and that it came from the sale of a piece of land. I have not yet located any documents regarding that land sale. Again, if anyone can find that info, I'll be happy to add it.

    As deeply as I've been diving into the Jamisons' personal business, I still haven't figured out every single thing that was going on with them, legal, financial, or otherwise. That's also still a work in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch1 View Post
    Someone inquired on the old thread about the custody of her son. I read all the documents and the last one determined that "permanent, substantial and material change of conditions such that its in the best interest of the child". This could mean that Sherylin was moving a significant distance over 150 miles away and can be combined with the child getting older (needs changing) and preferring to live with his father. If I am wrong and there is a document stating the reason they awarded the father custody is due to there being a safety issue can you tell me which one it is (like the date of it) I could have missed it or not read it correctly.
    http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...52&db=Oklahoma
    In search of additional info for the timeline, I finally succumbed to the lure of Topix, where Sherilyn's BFF has addressed the custody issue many times in the thread I'm currently reading, and her story has been pretty consistent throughout. So here's the gist of the custody issue as I understand it:

    In less than a year prior to going missing, Bobby and Sherilyn had to deal with a house fire and having to rebuild the whole two-story section of their home, Bobby's parents divorcing and the bizarre and threatening behavior of his father, the call to DHS by Bobby Sr (which might be interpreted as a vindictive move as it occurred the same day Bobby Jr's PPO against him was dismissed), and Sherilyn trying to collect over $30,000 owed to her in back child support, plus Bobby's chronic back pain and Sherilyn's bi-polar illness, there was A LOT going on. Lots of stress, lots of tension, and lots of arguing.

    Obviously, the mood in this household was not all roses and rainbows. Sherilyn's ex-husband had been trying to persuade their then-14-year-old son to come and live with him, promising him a motorcycle and this privilege and that enticement, which sounded like a lot more fun than he was having at home and he finally decided that he did want to go. Sherilyn was devastated, but chose not to fight her son on his decision. She also lost the back child support that was owed to her and the ex-husband saved over $30,000 in out-of-pocket expenses. Was that his motive? Heck if I know, but that's how it worked out. He no longer owed back child support and she was not required to pay him any child support in return.

    That's all I've been able to gather so far. It was not Sherilyn's choice that her son went to live with his father. It broke her heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieGranny View Post
    In search of additional info for the timeline, I finally succumbed to the lure of Topix, where Sherilyn's BFF has addressed the custody issue many times in the thread I'm currently reading, and her story has been pretty consistent throughout. So here's the gist of the custody issue as I understand it:

    In less than a year prior to going missing, Bobby and Sherilyn had to deal with a house fire and having to rebuild the whole two-story section of their home, Bobby's parents divorcing and the bizarre and threatening behavior of his father, the call to DHS by Bobby Sr (which might be interpreted as a vindictive move as it occurred the same day Bobby Jr's PPO against him was dismissed), and Sherilyn trying to collect over $30,000 owed to her in back child support, plus Bobby's chronic back pain and Sherilyn's bi-polar illness, there was A LOT going on. Lots of stress, lots of tension, and lots of arguing.

    Obviously, the mood in this household was not all roses and rainbows. Sherilyn's ex-husband had been trying to persuade their then-14-year-old son to come and live with him, promising him a motorcycle and this privilege and that enticement, which sounded like a lot more fun than he was having at home and he finally decided that he did want to go. Sherilyn was devastated, but chose not to fight her son on his decision. She also lost the back child support that was owed to her and the ex-husband saved over $30,000 in out-of-pocket expenses. Was that his motive? Heck if I know, but that's how it worked out. He no longer owed back child support and she was not required to pay him any child support in return.

    That's all I've been able to gather so far. It was not Sherilyn's choice that her son went to live with his father. It broke her heart.
    Exactly! Also, that is exactly what I read. I just didn't want to assume she "lost" custody in the sense she or Bobby were bad parents-doing drugs and abusing him (safety issue). I do think at times it was a stressful home (most are) for sure to live in and may even be the reason the son would rather live with his father, though, given it was so stressful I'm not sure why dad had to even entice him w/a motorcycle. So as I have come to understand it-the father has custody but NOT because of safety issues.
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    OkieGranny, that is one hellluva a timeline. Thank you for the work, I wsh every case had something that informative.
    Can you or anyone please explain the change in voicemail name & why the last day it says odd voice mail calls? Is that referring to the name change? Also why don't we know who the last calls In coming are from? Or who the 2:02 from the day before, mystery number is?
    Would the voicemail name change because they were in a differnt area like say the phone company saw it as the same number just differnt jurisdiction?
    Tia.
    I'm always impressed when a thread is kept together this long & finally, hopefully has some resolution. I have basic knowledge of this case but not anywhere near comfortable to vote yet. I know what stressors such as they seemed to be going through can do to your psyche (if murder/suicide) & I know how easy it would be to kill 3 humans(murder by local) . I just don't know why anyone would do that w/o knowledge of their truck to ransack it & find the cash. I just dont see them stumbling on to a drug operation that they as a family all see,; then are seen,; then all executed. If only for the child plus they seem like they could handle their own ground maybe impressing some meth head or pot grower that they aren't a threat. I just have no clue.
    Srry mitch1.imo no way they are in witness protection imo. I just dont see anything that points to something they'd have to hide from like that. Imo. Though I do appreciate your thoughts.

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