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    Michigan passes ‘rape insurance’ bill

    What the hell?

    Michigan passes ‘rape insurance’ bill


    Both chambers of the Michigan legislature have passed a measure banning insurance coverage for abortion in private health plans unless women purchase a separate rider. And because of the way the legislation was put forward, it is set to become law despite the objections of both the state’s Democratic minority and the veto of the Republican governor.

    In a charged hearing Wednesday, Michigan Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer told the story of her own rape and called the legislation “one of the most misogynistic proposals I’ve ever seen in the Michigan Legislature,” according to the Detroit Free Press. The fact that women are required to plan in advance to have an abortion, Whitmer said, “tells women who are raped … that they should have thought ahead and bought special insurance for it.”


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    Uhhhhhhh........???????

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    This state is so backward. Thank God I've had my tubes tied.
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    Why is it the state's business? The insurance coverage is between the customer and the insurance company.

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    Perhaps the women in Michigan should come together and tell the 80% that are men that voted for this new bill that they refuse to have Viagra covered by insurance anymore unless of course there is a special rider for it. The men want to mess around with women's health issues? Fine, mess around with theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Softail View Post
    What the hell?

    Michigan passes ‘rape insurance’ bill


    Both chambers of the Michigan legislature have passed a measure banning insurance coverage for abortion in private health plans unless women purchase a separate rider. And because of the way the legislation was put forward, it is set to become law despite the objections of both the state’s Democratic minority and the veto of the Republican governor.

    In a charged hearing Wednesday, Michigan Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer told the story of her own rape and called the legislation “one of the most misogynistic proposals I’ve ever seen in the Michigan Legislature,” according to the Detroit Free Press. The fact that women are required to plan in advance to have an abortion, Whitmer said, “tells women who are raped … that they should have thought ahead and bought special insurance for it.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by TorisMom003 View Post
    Perhaps the women in Michigan should come together and tell the 80% that are men that voted for this new bill that they refuse to have Viagra covered by insurance anymore unless of course there is a special rider for it. The men want to mess around with women's health issues? Fine, mess around with theirs.
    I agree 110%!

    Also, before they get their Viagra prescriptions, have their doctor mandated to discuss with them their other options - like celibacy, lifestyle changes, injections, vacuum devices, etc. After all, we just want the men to be informed about the decision they're making and how it effects their health.
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    Can you imagine what a woman would have to go thru to prove to an insurance company that they were raped and the fetus is a product of that rape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steft50 View Post
    can you imagine what a woman would have to go thru to prove to an insurance company that they were raped and the fetus is a product of that rape?
    I can't even imagine. Especially considering that only 4% of rapists are ever convicted in court.
    http://www.rainn.org/get-information...eporting-rates

    Goodness, you have enough trouble with insurance companies figuring out who is at fault in lots of car accidents, let alone a situation where someone is accused of rape....

    I trust women to make their own decisions about their health and lives. Their decisions may not be the ones I would make, but I am not in their shoes. I wish the legislature would trust adult women - we are capable of making adult decisions!

    Would this abortion rider also cover if the mother's life was in danger or there was something terribly wrong with the fetus? Seems like - from a purely numbers perspective- insurance companies would be willing to pay for abortions in these cases, as the medical costs for treating a dying woman or taking on a disabled dependent would be so high and cut into their profits.

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    And in the meantime, these same people who want to pass this bill are the types (notice I'm not claiming this is them, just from other ridiculous laws in regards to a woman's body) to cut food stamps and assistance. Only the children are punished in those circumstances.

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    I used to work in insurance and all the group health plans that we had, covered birth control and abortion because it was cost saving for the insurance company.

    I know this crap circulating on the internet about insurance rates going up due to having to cover birth control is BS.

    This bill they passed is an attack on women and I want to fight back. It's about time they get a dose of their own medicine.

    I don't see how they can do this when abortion is legal in this country.

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    http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013...n-rape/356075/

    The measure was brought to the legislature by a citizens' petition, signed by 4 percent of the state's population. The Right to Life petition was taken up by the body after Republican Gov. Rick Snyder vetoed an abortion coverage bill last year. Citizens' petitions are not subject to veto by the Governor.
    Democrats insist they will work to overturn the initiative. “This is a huge government overreach and Right to Life went too far again,” said Democratic State Rep. Marcia Hovey-Wright. “Do not underestimate the power of a lot of angry women and the men who support us."

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    Add to this, I read an article that says insurance companies don't actually offer this "rape insurance." So they want women to purchase something that doesn't actually exist.
    Just my opinion

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    https://www.aclu.org/maps/states-whe...er-attack-2013

    During the 2013 state legislative sessions more than 300 abortion restrictions were introduced by lawmakers across the country– including some of the most extreme we’ve seen in years. This map shows the states that saw major threats to, and new laws, restricting abortion access.

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