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    VA - Gum Spring, Male skeletal remains w/ pistol, Bible, Nov'13 - Hansen Franklin

    Hi everyone,

    First time posting a thread. I hope it's in the right place.

    I don't think this has been posted yet.

    http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/233249121.html

    Thoughts on who it could be? I did a little research but couldn't come up with any strong matches for one reason or another.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 01-30-2014 at 12:32 PM.

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    Not a whole lot to go on, hopefully they release some more details (or a reconstruction!) soon.

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    There really isn't a lot to go on yet is there?

    I take it that they found a gun?Hopefully they can match the gun to the owner.


    Here is one possibility.http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/owens_earl.html

    Louisa Co.and Spotsylvania border each other.

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    What about Robert Lee Hourihan ? He was last seen about 30 miles from Louisa.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=133888
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    http://www.wric.com/story/24060411/h...-in-gum-spring

    Here's a link with a little more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grateful1 View Post
    What about Robert Lee Hourihan ? He was last seen about 30 miles from Louisa.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=133888
    This was the name that popped into my head when I first read this.
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    In the most recent article, it's stated that car keys to a 2003 Jeep were found around the body.

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    I've come up with this possibility:

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7638/2/

    Last seen in Virginia Beach March 2007 and was believed to be on his way back to northwest Arkansas. His would explain the car keys found in the area that the UID was found.
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    this is 2 hours away but she was driving a Jetta when she went missing. they believe her nephew killed her. they found her Jetta burned but still haven't found her. didn't say anything about finding her keys.

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    we need to encourage harder sentencing on those that are harming our children. our children are worth it!!

    stop the circus!! these children as all children deserve to be found and justice brought forth for what has happened to them!!


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    "Deputies say the body likely dates back to 2007 or 2008. They say the land was cut over and burned around that time, and there was evidence of burn marks on the items."

    .... and no one saw the body then? Perhaps I don't know enough about cutting and burning, but, come on...


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    Quote Originally Posted by astridxx View Post
    "Deputies say the body likely dates back to 2007 or 2008. They say the land was cut over and burned around that time, and there was evidence of burn marks on the items."

    .... and no one saw the body then? Perhaps I don't know enough about cutting and burning, but, come on...
    Hattie went missing 2009, not that much later and they could be off a bit. with her car having been burnt that could also explain the burn marks on items. IMO until we know the gender i wouldn't rule her out.
    we need to encourage harder sentencing on those that are harming our children. our children are worth it!!

    stop the circus!! these children as all children deserve to be found and justice brought forth for what has happened to them!!


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    Meaghan of Charley Project had a blog a while back of missing people whom had a bible in their possessions when they were last seen. http://charleyross.wordpress.com/201...monday-bibles/

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    VA - Gum Spring, Hunter Finds Skeletal Remains w/Gun & Bible, Nov'13

    Richmond, VA, 11-23-2013 Skeletal Remains Found By Hunter near Gum Springs Area.

    "Hunter Finds Skeletal Remains"
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    "A hunter got more than he bargained for on Saturday, Nov. 23, when he discovered human skeletal remains near the Gum Spring area of Louisa County on Shepherd Spring Drive.

    According to WRIC Channel 8 in Richmond, John Grady went hunting in a different area than he usually does and that was when he discovered bones. During his television interview, Grady said he has found many things in the woods over the years, but this was by far the worst.

    According to Louisa County Sheriff’s Office Major Donald Lowe, the investigators processed the scene and the bones were sent to the Richmond Medical Examiner’s Office. The ME was not able to extract a DNA sample nor verify the height, age, race or gender of the person.

    LCSO Lt. Jeff Sims said the remains are being sent to the only anthropologist in Virginia at Eastern Lab in Tidewater.

    There they hope to be able to obtain information from the remains, but Sims said they would definitely be able to determine if the person is a male or female.

    Having no idea what the backlog is at the lab though, it could be some time before any further information is forthcoming.

    Sims did add that there is a good set of teeth, so if they obtain any leads or if people bring dental records of their missing family member, they can attempt to identify the person."

    http://www.thecentralvirginian.com/?p=10631
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    Someone will finally know what happened to their loved one. I'm always so thankful when someone is located even when it is not the best case senario. At least the family and friends will no longer have to agonize and wonder. They can lay their loved one to rest and begin the long healing process.

    I started to delete this post because it was stated in the article that they could not extract any DNA from the bones. Hopefully the teeth and/or dental records comparisons will help.

    What now?
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    I'm fairly positive that there's already a thread on this man. I went looking for more info and it matches up with another case on this forum.

    More info on the UID:
    - Death seems to be a suicide by gunshot wound
    - Remains have most likely been there since 2007 or 2008
    - He was found with a Bible and keys to a Jeep made between 1999 and 2003

    EDIT: Found the thread!
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...php?p=10011859
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