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    That bowl of pineapple again

    I was just going over the things about the bowl of pineapple, and had a thought.
    Was the spoon ever fingerprinted? I've never seen anything about any prints on the spoon; but we have PR's and BR's on the bowl, and just BR's on the glass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    I was just going over the things about the bowl of pineapple, and had a thought.
    Was the spoon ever fingerprinted? I've never seen anything about any prints on the spoon; but we have PR's and BR's on the bowl, and just BR's on the glass.
    I have never seen it either. I cannot fathom why they'd test the bowl and glass, yet not the spoon. Not only prints, but TDNA and DNA from saliva (always a primary source) could have proved without a doubt who ate that pineapple. TDNA could also have been gotten (or attempted) from the paper tag on the tea bag- then we'd at least know who made tea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I have never seen it either. I cannot fathom why they'd test the bowl and glass, yet not the spoon. Not only prints, but TDNA and DNA from saliva (always a primary source) could have proved without a doubt who ate that pineapple. TDNA could also have been gotten (or attempted) from the paper tag on the tea bag- then we'd at least know who made tea.
    Maybe they have and we don't know the results? (Serious question)

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    You're right, it could have been done and the results just not released.
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    Something else about this pineapple. ST said that the sample collected from JB's small intestine was matched down to the rind to the pineapple in the bowl. Not in those exact words, except, the "down to the rind" part. I don't understand why we are even arguing about the pineapple as being found during the autopsy being something else, when clearly when Meyer was able to identify it. And not only being pineapple, but the pineapple from the bowl in the bowl that came from the Ramsey's. I just don't get it.

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    Does that mean she ate the rind? Sorry I haven't eaten pineapple in forever (only liked it as a child, hate it as an adult!) Is the rind a part that you are supposed to eat??

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    I don't know how relevant this is, but my kid eats pineapple (or any chunks of fruit) with her grimy little fingers instead of a spoon.
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    JMO, but ST saying that the pineapple was matched down to the rind will not be enough for some people. And Tezi, I know what you mean, it was matched down to the rind. Just some people are so anti ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    JMO, but ST saying that the pineapple was matched down to the rind will not be enough for some people. And Tezi, I know what you mean, it was matched down to the rind. Just some people are so anti ST.
    Oh, I well I know Venom. It's not just anti-Steve Thomas, it's anti-Kolar, anti-anyone who has the nerve to say the Ramseys are guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageantmom View Post
    Does that mean she ate the rind? Sorry I haven't eaten pineapple in forever (only liked it as a child, hate it as an adult!) Is the rind a part that you are supposed to eat??
    Parts of the inner rind can be left on fresh pineapple. It can show the little brown spots from the outer brown prickly rind that is cut off. Maybe someone did a poor job of cutting it and didn't cut out the little brown eyes or dots. I can't imagine them leaving the outer rind on.


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    There is so much written about JonBenet that it is impossible to remember it all but, for what it's worth, I thought the spoon had her brother's and mother's fingerprints on it.

    If you read the autopsy report (which is available on the internet) what it actually says is that JonBenet had eaten 'vegetable material which may have been pineapple' which is not the same thing as saying 'she had eaten pineapple'. Can anyone point me at any original source which says anything more than that? - i.e. where does this stuff about 'matched down to the rind' come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    I was just going over the things about the bowl of pineapple, and had a thought.
    Was the spoon ever fingerprinted? I've never seen anything about any prints on the spoon; but we have PR's and BR's on the bowl, and just BR's on the glass.
    I never really made much outta the whole "prints-on-the-bowl" thing. Of COURSE PR's prints are gonna be on the bowl cuz she most likely washed it then removed it from the sink rack/dishwasher (I'm pretty darn sure that with all their money they hadda dishwasher....lucky stiffs) and put it away. That could also explain BR's too IF he was appointed that chore or if he was just bein' "mommy's lil' helper" that day.

    If ya look at it in that light it really could explain away damn near EVERYBODY'S prints.

    There are just way too many variables in this case. It makes me dizzy. But on that note:

    Two nights ago I asked an online Ouija Board "who killed JonBenet Ramsey?".

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    "One close".

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    Quote Originally Posted by malingerer View Post
    There is so much written about JonBenet that it is impossible to remember it all but, for what it's worth, I thought the spoon had her brother's and mother's fingerprints on it.

    If you read the autopsy report (which is available on the internet) what it actually says is that JonBenet had eaten 'vegetable material which may have been pineapple' which is not the same thing as saying 'she had eaten pineapple'. Can anyone point me at any original source which says anything more than that? - i.e. where does this stuff about 'matched down to the rind' come from?
    It is from ST's book. page 192

    "Our experts studied the pineapple in the stomach and reported that it was fresh-cut pineapple, consistent down to the rind with what had been found in the bowl. It was solid proof that it wasn't canned pineapple, and what were the chances that an intruder would have brought in a fresh pineapple to cut up for his victim?

    I copied this from a candy rose's website here: http://www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-pineapple.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by malingerer View Post
    There is so much written about JonBenet that it is impossible to remember it all but, for what it's worth, I thought the spoon had her brother's and mother's fingerprints on it.

    If you read the autopsy report (which is available on the internet) what it actually says is that JonBenet had eaten 'vegetable material which may have been pineapple' which is not the same thing as saying 'she had eaten pineapple'. Can anyone point me at any original source which says anything more than that? - i.e. where does this stuff about 'matched down to the rind' come from?
    BBM. Exactly. No one (re: Anyhoo's statement) is refusing to consider the contents of JB's small intestine could have, factually, been fragments pineapple. Rather, some appreciate more evidentiary support than what is stated in the AR.

    The quote "down to the rind" comes from Steve Thomas in IRMI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    It is from ST's book. page 192

    "Our experts studied the pineapple in the stomach and reported that it was fresh-cut pineapple, consistent down to the rind with what had been found in the bowl. It was solid proof that it wasn't canned pineapple, and what were the chances that an intruder would have brought in a fresh pineapple to cut up for his victim?

    I copied this from a candy rose's website here: http://www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-pineapple.htm

    To augment your information, Venom, and thank you,
    one has to keep in mind this premise: Lab reports and other evidentiary material are not necessarily in the public domain. What is in the public arena is only a small portion of the actual evidence.

    So backtrack a little to the view of LS -
    From Time Magazine is the quote from LS, a defender of the Rís and proponent of the IDI theory: "I believe the Ramseys are innocent," says Smit. "If it's an intruder, it's not the parents, and I think it's that simple."

    Now from Venom's link to ACR, here is the interview LS had with JR (from ACR website)
    . .Snip. . .
    LOU SMIT: We don't know.
    . 9 The pineapple is inside her, so we have to
    10 figure out how that pineapple got there.
    11 There is one way it could get there, she
    12 had to eat it at some point.
    13 JOHN RAMSEY: Are you sure it was
    14 pineapple?
    15 LOU SMIT: Yes.
    16 JOHN RAMSEY: No question?
    17 LOU SMIT: No question. No
    18 question. So that's always been the big
    19 bugaboo.
    . . .Snip . . .

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