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    CA - Marin Co., WhtMale UP11920, 40-50, in bay near GG Bridge, May'94

    From NamUs: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11920

    NamUs UP # 11920
    ME/C Case Number: 94119
    Marin County, California
    40 to 50 year old White Male
    Date found: May 07, 1994 10:49

    Estimated age: Adult - Pre 50
    Minimum age: 40 years
    Maximum age: 50 years
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Weight (pounds): 165, Estimated
    Height (inches): 64, Estimated
    Body conditions: Recognizable face

    Location Found
    Address 1: Bay Waters
    Address 2: Golden Gate Bridge
    City: Sausalito
    State: California
    County: Marin

    Hair color: Brown
    Head hair: Frontal and crown balding, but long in the back (approx. 12' long)
    Facial hair: Full beard with moustache
    Left eye color: Hazel
    Right eye color: Hazel
    No other distinctive body features

    Status: Fingerprint information is available and entered
    Status: Dental information / charting is currently not available
    Status: DNA sample is currently not available

    Clothing on body:
    Blue plaid jacket "Sears" brand; "Trader Bay" size small; yellow sleeveless T-shirt with the logo of a surfer and the lettering "Hawaii"; olive color "Ben Davis" brand work pants with no size indicated; white briefs' white socks; brown moccasins; black leather belt with a W/M Western style buckle

    Jewelry:
    Black digital "Casio" brand watch
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 01-04-2014 at 12:15 PM.

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    The way this UID's "Location Found" is described seems to suggest a Golden Gate Bridge suicide who was found in the Bay Waters closer to the Sausalito side than the San Francisco side. I haven't yet found news articles supporting this or other circumstances.

    Thoughts on this missing person? There is little information available, but what caught my eye is the following:

    1. Mr. Lazor was reportedly last seen 7 days prior to the UID being found.
    2. He disappeared from San Francisco, CA and the UID was found in the Bay Waters by Golden Gate Bridge.
    3. Mr. Lazor's reported height and weight is 5'7" and 170 lbs. The UID is estimated to be 5'4" and 165 lbs. Height is off, but weight is within 6 lbs.
    4. He was 44 years old when he disappeared. The UID is estimated to be 40 to 50 years old.
    5. His photograph shows he had some balding although I am unsure whether it qualifies as both frontal and crown balding. His hair also seemed to be on the mid- to longer side in length.
    6. His photograph shows a full beard and mustache.
    7. It looks like he is wearing a plaid shirt so he at least entertained that fashion look. The UID was wearing a plaid jacket.

    However: The UID is reported as having brown hair and hazel eyes whereas Mr. Lazor is repoted as having blonde hair and blue eyes. Also, the heights reported are off by 3 inches.

    Links:
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/1071dmca.html
    http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/det...=4679417300489
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._mitchell.html

    From California Department of Justice Website:

    Mitchell B. Lazor


    Report Type: Voluntary Missing Adult
    Sex: Male
    Race: White
    Hair: Blonde
    Eye Color: Blue
    Height: 5 ft. 07 in.
    Weight: 170 lbs.
    Date of Birth: 1/31/1950
    Last Seen: 4/30/1994
    Dental X-rays Available: No

    Mitchell was last seen April 30, 1994 in San Francisco, CA.

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    Typo in thread title. The year should read '94, not '04. Sorry and thanks ahead of time to the mod who can help me correct it!

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    I think this is a good find. There is that place between blonde and brown sometimes where it's kind of you-say-potato, i-say-potahto. Blue and hazel is harder I think but all things considered I bet it's worth a look.

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    It makes me sad to read that there aren't dental records or DNA available for this UID. He was found in '94; it seems like taking dental x-rays and a DNA sample should have been common procedures by that point in time. SF is definitely not lacking in funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Eyes View Post
    I think this is a good find. There is that place between blonde and brown sometimes where it's kind of you-say-potato, i-say-potahto. Blue and hazel is harder I think but all things considered I bet it's worth a look.
    Very true. Also, some blonde hair can look brown when it's wet.

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    Yes, I would describe Lazor as having frontal and crown balding.

    He sounds very close in many ways. I'd say submit it.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Thanks for the input, Everyone!

    I submitted this and the Marin County Coroner's Office replied pretty quickly. The Coroner Investigator who emailed said she believes Mr. Lazor was compared several years ago, but it is not yet clear if he was ever ruled out. They are going to look into it, but need to go through old case notes because the previous investigators are no longer there.

    She asked what agency I was with so I replied that I am simply a member of the general public.

    It seems like they are going to have to look into whether Mr. Lazor had fingerprints available through police records or the military. The only additional detail I could provide them was that he seemed to have a younger brother who passed away prior to Mr. Lazor's disappearance date.

    This seems like one of the tougher ones to rule out if they can't find additional family, fingerprints, or dentals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermute View Post
    It makes me sad to read that there aren't dental records or DNA available for this UID. He was found in '94; it seems like taking dental x-rays and a DNA sample should have been common procedures by that point in time. SF is definitely not lacking in funds.
    Also, there are dental details for this UID. Not sure why NamUs says they are not available (or maybe they are available on NamUs, but just not viewable by the public), but the Coroner Investigator mentioned it. Not sure if I'm allowed to share it here if it's not publicly posted yet, though.

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    Is it possible I've found a picture of Mitchell at seven years old? It's the middle child, sitting at the bottom row.

    http://outsidelands.org/schools/more...+Portal&y=1957
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


    Flyers/FB/Case Overview&Media Links
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2009-19/page22


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    ^Quite possible, zwiebel! Wish we knew more about other potential relatives.

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    Dental information / charting is available and entered
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11920

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    I wonder if Michael Udow from Big Bear, San Bernardino County, CA has been looked at?

    michaeludow.jpeg

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5095/176

    He was last seen on November 5, 1993 in Southern California. His height is listed as 64" yet his weight is a bit less than the UID at 140 lbs. In the photo, his hair is brown and longish with a receding hairline. Like Mr. Lazor, Mr. Udow's eye color is also listed as blue.



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