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    MI - Dr. Teleka Patrick, 30, Kalamazoo, 5 Dec 2013 - #9

    Please continue here. Pay attention to this post because it spells out rules that apply, in addition to our standard TOS, to this case in particular.


    No speculating that Teleka has run off to meet some unsavory character or escaped convict.

    No religious discussion unless it relates DIRECTLY to Teleka's disappearance.

    The videos are linked here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - MI MI - Dr. Teleka Patrick, 30, Kalamazoo, 5 Dec 2013 - #4


    Please use this link and NOT private twitter accounts. Remember, if you link to a non-case player's account - you cannot discuss or sleuth that person, so just use the above link and play it safe. Also please note, that if for any reason LE pulls the videos, we will pull them also.


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    Regarding Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, and other social networking or blog websites: Links may be used to direct posters to view something on a social networking page. But postings on social networking sites are not considered fact; they are rumor. Copying and pasting, or taking screen caps, directly from these pages is not allowed. Paraphrasing is okay. (Exception: If the Twitter or Facebook post belongs to a verified news station, it may be copied. But a link should still be provided.)

    Also, social networking pages may only be linked if they are directly related to a case, i.e. the victim or suspect. We don't want to post to someone's mother, brother, employer, milkman, or postal carrier just because they know the main player. We also NEVER link to minor's pages (unless they are the victim). And be sure that the page actually belongs to the person being discussed. Do not link to someone if you are not 100% sure it is the correct person. And if a social networking is set to private and you get in the back way, you may not post what you find. Private means private! This includes closed social media accounts that can only be retrieved through cached pages

    Teleka's Twitter: http://video.twicsy.com/i/bvFMi
    Teleka's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teleka.patrick?fref=ts

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    parkinglot thread for social media discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedmother View Post
    Someone found an old twitter with that username last night that may have been hers.
    I have created a thread for social media discussion. (just jumping off of your post).. all social media can be discussed here.. (to include any accounts that were deleted) that being said what is posted in this thread STAYS THERE and must not come upstairs to the general discussion thread or time outs will be issued post haste.

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    MI - Dr. Teleka Patrick, 30, Kalamazoo, 5 Dec 2013 - #9



    Before posting in the new thread please read the rules about where social media discussion stays... in the parking lot folks! Also we are a victim friendly forum: this thread is to discuss Teleka, not to sleuth other persons and this includes the minister and her ex husband.

    Also a big welcome to all new members! If anyone is an insider in the case here is a link to our verification process:


    Verification Process for Professional or Insider Posters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    verification is only necessary if you are a professional or know case players. Verification is not necessary for locals describing the general area, etc.

    Continue discussing the case here:
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    The thread is open for posting again.

    Keep in mind that MS is regarded as a victim, and the usual rules apply.

    No victim bashing.

    No suggesting that MS is responsible for becoming a victim.

    This is a warning for all, and those who ignore it are subject to a TO without further notice.

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    MI - Dr. Teleka Patrick, 30, Kalamazoo, 5 Dec 2013 - #9

    continue here and heed the warning about MS above ^^

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    Hi all,

    I've been following this case fanatically, just like most of you on this thread. A few thoughts (and please note that these ideas are pure speculation):

    Why did Teleka's car run off the road?
    - From what I can tell on Google maps, the road before the Portage exit looks very, very dark. It's possible that Teleka hadn't driven it very often and in a somewhat charged state, simply ran off the road…
    - If Teleka felt like she was being followed, like the Radisson driver suggests, maybe she was spending too much time looking in rear-view mirrors and ran off the road…
    - Some evidence points to her having auditory and perhaps even visual hallucinations. It's a scary thought that she might have "seen" something or even, terrifyingly enough, something "told her" to pull over or stop or do something…
    - Sleep deprivation causing her to fall asleep at the wheel?

    Where did Teleka go from there?
    - I still feel like it's a possibility that she stayed in the vicinity and might have succumbed to the elements. That's a terrifying thought. When the weather clears up more, better searching will take place.
    - The evidence points to her getting in another vehicle. Even if someone picked her up and took her somewhere, wouldn't they have come forward by now, even though only a portion of the country knows about the case? If I had picked up a hitchhiker in the area at that time of night, even if I weren't aware of the case, I probably would have mentioned the fact that I picked up a pretty girl on the side of the road. And someone I mentioned it to would probably be aware of the case. This is actually the most puzzling aspect of the whole thing to me!
    - For a few reasons, I find it unlikely that a truck driver stopped and picked her up. It takes them a long time to stop their vehicle, and her trail would have gone for more than 30 feet in my opinion. And with modern technology, many of them do stay up to date better than the general public (not to mention all of the conversations they have with other drivers on the radio and at stops). So does that mean that there's a better chance of her being in the vicinity, if she were picked up by another car instead of a truck? I only offer these opinions because my friend has worked with truck drivers all his life and this seems to be their work culture.

    There are many things that I think they should make public. My top requests are:
    - What is the story on the "phone call" the she received that upset her so? Was it an actual phone call? Who was it from? How long did it last?
    - What was the nature of her conversation with the hotel clerk? The video raises far more questions than it answers, especially with what appears to be a three-minute time gap (where it appears the clerk from inside had to escort her to the shuttle). We can speculate all we want, but there's no way to draw any conclusions from the video as to anything.
    - What kind of clothing items were in the car? It would make a big difference if there was only a jacket in there as opposed to three outfits.

    At this point I do feel at ease with a few details:
    - MS probably did very little to intentionally or directly encourage the stalking and probably doesn't have anything directly to do with her disappearance.
    - Given what we know about her, she probably did take off voluntarily.

    I'm sorry for the long post but I needed a brain dump :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittywinters View Post
    Hi all,

    I've been following this case fanatically, just like most of you on this thread. A few thoughts (and please note that these ideas are pure speculation):

    Why did Teleka's car run off the road?
    - From what I can tell on Google maps, the road before the Portage exit looks very, very dark. It's possible that Teleka hadn't driven it very often and in a somewhat charged state, simply ran off the road…
    - If Teleka felt like she was being followed, like the Radisson driver suggests, maybe she was spending too much time looking in rear-view mirrors and ran off the road…
    - Some evidence points to her having auditory and perhaps even visual hallucinations. It's a scary thought that she might have "seen" something or even, terrifyingly enough, something "told her" to pull over or stop or do something…
    - Sleep deprivation causing her to fall asleep at the wheel?

    Where did Teleka go from there?
    - I still feel like it's a possibility that she stayed in the vicinity and might have succumbed to the elements. That's a terrifying thought. When the weather clears up more, better searching will take place.
    - The evidence points to her getting in another vehicle. Even if someone picked her up and took her somewhere, wouldn't they have come forward by now, even though only a portion of the country knows about the case? If I had picked up a hitchhiker in the area at that time of night, even if I weren't aware of the case, I probably would have mentioned the fact that I picked up a pretty girl on the side of the road. And someone I mentioned it to would probably be aware of the case. This is actually the most puzzling aspect of the whole thing to me!
    - For a few reasons, I find it unlikely that a truck driver stopped and picked her up. It takes them a long time to stop their vehicle, and her trail would have gone for more than 30 feet in my opinion. And with modern technology, many of them do stay up to date better than the general public (not to mention all of the conversations they have with other drivers on the radio and at stops). So does that mean that there's a better chance of her being in the vicinity, if she were picked up by another car instead of a truck? I only offer these opinions because my friend has worked with truck drivers all his life and this seems to be their work culture.

    There are many things that I think they should make public. My top requests are:
    - What is the story on the "phone call" the she received that upset her so? Was it an actual phone call? Who was it from? How long did it last?
    - What was the nature of her conversation with the hotel clerk? The video raises far more questions than it answers, especially with what appears to be a three-minute time gap (where it appears the clerk from inside had to escort her to the shuttle). We can speculate all we want, but there's no way to draw any conclusions from the video as to anything.
    - What kind of clothing items were in the car? It would make a big difference if there was only a jacket in there as opposed to three outfits.

    At this point I do feel at ease with a few details:
    - MS probably did very little to intentionally or directly encourage the stalking and probably doesn't have anything directly to do with her disappearance.
    - Given what we know about her, she probably did take off voluntarily.

    I'm sorry for the long post but I needed a brain dump :-)
    BBM


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    welcome to websleuths misskittywinters!

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    Thank you so much!

    For anyone who is new, or who just wants to review some facts, this Michigan website has a great timeline: http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/...ne_what_w.html

    And I have a compliment for their reporter, Rex Hall, Jr. on such great, useful, and respectful coverage :-)

    Here's hoping that Teleka is safe.
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    Many real questions and potential answers being juggled...

    Well my current thought is if TP had another phone she is being tracked by LE and FBI!
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    I know a lot of people keep saying that if she got a ride, why hasn't this person come forward? Is it possible they did report it to LE and LE is withholding that info? To me the most logical thing would be that she walked to the TA truck stop and hitched a ride with someone. IF she's alive that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Sleuth View Post
    I know a lot of people keep saying that if she got a ride, why hasn't this person come forward? Is it possible they did report it to LE and LE is withholding that info? To me the most logical thing would be that she walked to the TA truck stop and hitched a ride with someone. IF she's alive that is.
    We tend to be going in circles but hey, the truth and facts may just emerge. I asked a colleague of mine if she heard about this case, the reply was no. Millions of Americans may not be privy to this case. If indeed someone gave her a ride, they may not be aware of it. By the time they become aware, they probably would have forgotten or if they recall giving her a ride, the info. will be meaningless at that point in time.
    Depending on how the elephant is seen, each blind man was partly right, though all were in the wrong. (Riordan, 1986, pp. 30-33)

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    Quote Originally Posted by knacker View Post
    We tend to be going in circles but hey, the truth and facts may just emerge. I asked a colleague of mine if she heard about this case, the reply was no. Millions of Americans may not be privy to this case. If indeed someone gave her a ride, they may not be aware of it. By the time they become aware, they probably would have forgotten or if they recall giving her a ride, the info. will be meaningless at that point in time.
    Very true. The majority of the population has never heard of her and has no idea she's missing. We keep saying things like "I can't believe no one saw her leave her car" but the truth is we have no idea if someone saw her or not. They could have called LE and LE is not sharing that info, or more likely they have no idea this woman is even missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knacker View Post
    We tend to be going in circles but hey, the truth and facts may just emerge. I asked a colleague of mine if she heard about this case, the reply was no. Millions of Americans may not be privy to this case. If indeed someone gave her a ride, they may not be aware of it. By the time they become aware, they probably would have forgotten or if they recall giving her a ride, the info. will be meaningless at that point in time.
    No offense but picking up a young beautiful black woman, well dressed and well spoken from the side of the highway in that semi rural area at 10:15pm on a weeknight and it is forgotten by a person??? I've lived in this area for over 30 years, traveled the route to Chicago often by car and I think the odds of that happening are extremely remote.

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    not that I would ever pick up a hitchhiker, if I did, I would certainly remember it.

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