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    FL - Ft Lauderdale, female body in blanket, May'05 - Dian Simmons

    FORT LAUDERDALE The body of a woman was found dead and wrapped in a blanket in a field often used as an illegal dump site, police said on Monday.

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    Why do people think you can just throw someone away? I am just fascinated at that kind of mindset (not in a good way, mind you). I hope they can identify her soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs4point0
    Why do people think you can just throw someone away? I am just fascinated at that kind of mindset (not in a good way, mind you). I hope they can identify her soon.
    Hopefully some family will now know what happened to thier loved one. I was so astounded when I started looking online at all kinds of different states local newspapers, there was skeletal remains being found all over the place! All those missing people are out there just waiting to be found! Makes you wonder just how many cant be identified. So sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith
    Hopefully some family will now know what happened to thier loved one. I was so astounded when I started looking online at all kinds of different states local newspapers, there was skeletal remains being found all over the place! All those missing people are out there just waiting to be found! Makes you wonder just how many cant be identified. So sad!
    Yeah, can you imagine being the investigators having to go through the missing persons reports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs4point0
    Yeah, can you imagine being the investigators having to go through the missing persons reports?
    Cant even imagine, sound like a job for us! lol. I often think that every child at birth have a DNA sample taken and put on file in a central computer bank or something. Everyone for that matter should have a sample on file. I know some people will say that is intrusive, and it is, but when a body is found it could be identified, or when a crime is commited a suspect could be identified. If you dont do anything illigal, then no worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith
    Cant even imagine, sound like a job for us! lol. I often think that every child at birth have a DNA sample taken and put on file in a central computer bank or something. Everyone for that matter should have a sample on file. I know some people will say that is intrusive, and it is, but when a body is found it could be identified, or when a crime is commited a suspect could be identified. If you dont do anything illigal, then no worries.
    I agree, DNA and a SS #, must haves. It would solve alot of crimes and help identify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith
    Cant even imagine, sound like a job for us! lol. I often think that every child at birth have a DNA sample taken and put on file in a central computer bank or something. Everyone for that matter should have a sample on file. I know some people will say that is intrusive, and it is, but when a body is found it could be identified, or when a crime is commited a suspect could be identified. If you dont do anything illigal, then no worries.
    In my Forensic Anthropology classes, there were suggestions of teeth being engraved. From what I understand, many medical devices now have serial numbers to help with IDs... like breast implants...

    The whole DNA thing has a lot of people against it- There may be discrimination against genetic traits or code. The whole topic goes round and round...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith
    Cant even imagine, sound like a job for us! lol. I often think that every child at birth have a DNA sample taken and put on file in a central computer bank or something. Everyone for that matter should have a sample on file. I know some people will say that is intrusive, and it is, but when a body is found it could be identified, or when a crime is commited a suspect could be identified. If you dont do anything illigal, then no worries.

    I have often said this too !! But, there are too many people out there that would argue thsi is infringing on our rights....
    Like you said, if you don't do anything illegal, you should have no worries !!

    If this had been implimented long ago, just think about how many murders, missing person and John and Jane Doe cases would be solved !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey77
    In my Forensic Anthropology classes, there were suggestions of teeth being engraved. From what I understand, many medical devices now have serial numbers to help with IDs... like breast implants...
    Implanted medical devices have serial numbers on them in case of a recall of the device. The pt also received a wallet card to keep so in case there is any question of what type is implanted, the medical staff can have the information.

    I don't think we will ever see the day where a DNA sample will be taken at birth and stored in a central location. First of all, the cost alone would make some people be against it. Second, invasion of privacy.

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    Right now there is no law that if LE finds remains, that they have to have DNA testing completed on it. (That costs quite a bit of money) Usually once remains are found, area LE will be notified and they will search their missing persons reports. If no potential match is found the remains will usually be held at the coroner's office for a time, then eventually may be buried or cremated. The info on the remains is kept on file, in case someone comes looking for info later. Some depts are doing the testing, and some depts do not.
    The FBI has a database set up, where families of missing people can request that the DNA of their missing person be filed, in case remains are found somewhere and can be processed against this for a possible match.
    If a dept processes the DNA on some remains, they will usually enter the DNA report in this looking for a potential match. However there is no law that says that missing persons DNA must be entered here, nor any law that requires any dept to get the DNA on any remains that are found.
    A woman in Ohio was working on a law to require that all remains be tested. I don't know if she was working on this at a state or federal level. And I don't know how far she got, I haven't heard anything for a few months. If anyone is interested in helping with this I will see if I can get more info.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew
    Right now there is no law that if LE finds remains, that they have to have DNA testing completed on it. (That costs quite a bit of money) Usually once remains are found, area LE will be notified and they will search their missing persons reports. If no potential match is found the remains will usually be held at the coroner's office for a time, then eventually may be buried or cremated. The info on the remains is kept on file, in case someone comes looking for info later. Some depts are doing the testing, and some depts do not.
    The FBI has a database set up, where families of missing people can request that the DNA of their missing person be filed, in case remains are found somewhere and can be processed against this for a possible match.
    If a dept processes the DNA on some remains, they will usually enter the DNA report in this looking for a potential match. However there is no law that says that missing persons DNA must be entered here, nor any law that requires any dept to get the DNA on any remains that are found.
    A woman in Ohio was working on a law to require that all remains be tested. I don't know if she was working on this at a state or federal level. And I don't know how far she got, I haven't heard anything for a few months. If anyone is interested in helping with this I will see if I can get more info.
    Wouldn't it be great if there was a database similar to LE's AFIS and DNA databank? I'm sure the difficulty lies in funding for such resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs4point0
    Wouldn't it be great if there was a database similar to LE's AFIS and DNA databank? I'm sure the difficulty lies in funding for such resources.
    The DNA databank is what I was referring to in my post (a part of it has to do with missing people and unidentified remains). However, LE is not required to participate with it. And yes from what I have read, funding is a big part of the problem.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith
    Cant even imagine, sound like a job for us! lol. I often think that every child at birth have a DNA sample taken and put on file in a central computer bank or something. Everyone for that matter should have a sample on file. I know some people will say that is intrusive, and it is, but when a body is found it could be identified, or when a crime is commited a suspect could be identified. If you dont do anything illigal, then no worries.
    I agree completely. Or even dental records!! I read in a story that someone just threw out the old dental records from her fathers practice!! You would think that they should go to a medical storage facility or something!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs4point0
    Wouldn't it be great if there was a database similar to LE's AFIS and DNA databank? I'm sure the difficulty lies in funding for such resources.
    The FBI has a databank. It is CODIS. However due to the cost of DNA testing, not all remains have DNA collected and entered into it. There is no law that requires LE to obtain the DNA, or to enter it into CODIS.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew
    The FBI has a databank. It is CODIS. However due to the cost of DNA testing, not all remains have DNA collected and entered into it. There is no law that requires LE to obtain the DNA, or to enter it into CODIS.
    Just out of curiosity, does anyone know just how much it costs to just collect the DNA and store it? You hear of LE having to exhume bodies, you would think it would be cheaper to just collect and store.

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