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    Burke

    I've been thinking about Burke lately. He's getting older now, I believe he's 18 now.

    No matter what happened on Dec.25/26,it has to have deep lasting effects on him.

    If he is guilty - even though he could not be charged,who could live with that?

    If he isn't guilty - he knows some secrets that is too much to bare,who can live with that?

    Either way the kid is screwed ...
    Do you think he is/will be in therapy for life?

    Can't help but feel sorry for him.

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    I'd say he's in therapy for life no matter what he knows. I seriously hope someone from that family breaks their silence. I'm praying Burke can bring justice for JonBenet. I'm not convinced he murdered her, but I do feel he knows who did...at the very least. I just find it incredibly sad. JBR may never get justice if he doesn't speak.



    PS...mourning the loss of Kenny on the single train.
    "The greatest crimes do not arise from a want of feeling for others but from
    over-sensibility for ourselves and an over-indulgence to our own desires."
    ~~ Edmund Burke


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    Let's get back to Burke for a moment ...

    When Burke was sent to stay with the Ramsey friends on Dec 26,he left with his N64.It was cold out,so I'm assuming he wore a jacket.Was this a bulky jacket? Could this jacket maybe hide a ... oh I dunno ... roll of duck tape,roll of cord ... I think you know where I'm going with this ...

    Is this a crazy thought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by capps
    I've been thinking about Burke lately. He's getting older now, I believe he's 18 now.

    No matter what happened on Dec.25/26,it has to have deep lasting effects on him.

    If he is guilty - even though he could not be charged,who could live with that?

    If he isn't guilty - he knows some secrets that is too much to bare,who can live with that?

    Either way the kid is screwed ...
    Do you think he is/will be in therapy for life?

    Can't help but feel sorry for him.
    You left out the possibility someone unknown to either his parents or himself came in and killed his sister.

    I don't think he's necessarily screwed or will be in therapy for life any more than Martha Moxley's brother was.

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    One big difference though ....
    Martha Moxley's parents weren't prime suspects and suspiciously being evasive and covering up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capps
    One big difference though ....
    Martha Moxley's parents weren't prime suspects and suspiciously being evasive and covering up.
    I'll bet they would have been in Boulder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by capps
    One big difference though ....
    Martha Moxley's parents weren't prime suspects and suspiciously being evasive and covering up.
    Exactly. Did the Moxley's laywer-up and lawyer-up all their relatives? Nope. I think Burke's going to talk one of these days. Soon enough, he'll be off to college, and I would guess frat life. All it's going to take is a party and some booze, and I think poor Burke is going to talk. I feel so sorry for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    I'll bet they would have been in Boulder...
    Nevermind...no use arguing. Until Patsy confesses on her death bed, some will never believe her...and even then, some still won't believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    You left out the possibility someone unknown to either his parents or himself came in and killed his sister.

    I don't think he's necessarily screwed or will be in therapy for life any more than Martha Moxley's brother was.
    I dont know anything about Martha Moxley's brother, but I think Burke is going to be one troubled person his whole life, whether or not he chooses to seek therapy. Regardless of whether or not he was directly involved in Jonbenet's death, he is still going to bear the scars of what happened to his little sister his whole life. More than 1/2 of his life he has had to deal with what happened there that night and the aftermath.
    I wonder if he gets online and visits these forums or if he has ever looked at the autopsy photo's...you cant help but wonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    I'll bet they would have been in Boulder...
    I'm not sure I'm understanding your statement? Can you briefly elaborate please?


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    Martha Moxley was killed on her lawn. Her mother was home alone when it happened. Martha and her mother had argued earlier in the week. Based on how quickly BPD made up their minds about the Ramseys, I think they might just as easily have jumped for Dorthy Moxley as the killer of Martha.


    The Greenwich PD didn't have trouble going to the Moxley's house to interview the parents and whatever suspicions they might have harboured early on re the parents they always treated them kindly and respectfully. Perhaps if BPD had treated the Ramseys the same way they wouldn't have had the problem they did have. I suspect if the Moxleys had been treated as the Ramseys were you'd have had similar behavior from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    Martha Moxley was killed on her lawn. Her mother was home alone when it happened. Martha and her mother had argued earlier in the week. Based on how quickly BPD made up their minds about the Ramseys, I think they might just as easily have jumped for Dorthy Moxley as the killer of Martha.


    The Greenwich PD didn't have trouble going to the Moxley's house to interview the parents and whatever suspicions they might have harboured early on re the parents they always treated them kindly and respectfully. Perhaps if BPD had treated the Ramseys the same way they wouldn't have had the problem they did have. I suspect if the Moxleys had been treated as the Ramseys were you'd have had similar behavior from them.
    The BPD didn't treat the Ramsey's kindly??
    If you remember,the BPD let them do whatever they pleased when they first came to the house. They were allowed to walk around,let all their friends and the preacher stay,why ... they even told JR,"why don't you look around to see if there's any thing that looks suspicious." (Big mistake). Why those mean 'ole police!!!!

    Believe me ... if the only problem the BPD had with the Ramsey's is that Patsy had an argument with JB in the beginnig of the week ... the Ramsey's would no be in the mess they're in right now.

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    You're leaving out the heavy-handed way they interviewed JAR and Melinda, the intimating to reporters from day 1 that no intruders were involved, threatening to refuse to release her body etc, etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    You're leaving out the heavy-handed way they interviewed JAR and Melinda, the intimating to reporters from day 1 that no intruders were involved, threatening to refuse to release her body etc, etc, etc.
    Tipper,

    I'm not disputing that the BPD didn't always use the right approach, refusing to release JB's body was not a good tactic. But,the reason for these tactics (albeit not always the correct ones),were started only because the Ramsey's were almost immediately hiding behind their lawyers and refusing to give any more interviews to the authorities. That makes one suspicious.Remember,as per my pior post, it did not start out that way. That's the difference between this case and the Moxley case.

    I know JAR and Melinda were questioned,but I'm not aware of any heavy handedness,can you give me a source for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    Martha Moxley was killed on her lawn. Her mother was home alone when it happened. Martha and her mother had argued earlier in the week. Based on how quickly BPD made up their minds about the Ramseys, I think they might just as easily have jumped for Dorthy Moxley as the killer of Martha.


    The Greenwich PD didn't have trouble going to the Moxley's house to interview the parents and whatever suspicions they might have harboured early on re the parents they always treated them kindly and respectfully. Perhaps if BPD had treated the Ramseys the same way they wouldn't have had the problem they did have. I suspect if the Moxleys had been treated as the Ramseys were you'd have had similar behavior from them.
    The BPD had trouble going to the Fernie home to interview the Ramseys and whatever suspicions they might have harboured early on re the parents they always treated them kindly and respectuflly.

    John told the BPD....give us a day. The next day he was all lawyered up and the BPD didn't have a chance in Hades!
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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