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    Gary Austin

    Anyone have more information on this guy?

    According to Darlie's testimony, the sock was found "directly in the path towards his home". She also states "We know he was outside his home at 2:30 that morning"

    And as of Darlie's take on Gary's wife's statements that she found her husband coming into their residence at about 2.30am - 2.45pm fully clothed.

    Certainly seems like there's something there worth following up - how far did the police investigate?

    Anyone know?

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    Link me to the MSM or LE reports that would allow for sleuthing of this person, please?

    If he is not a POI or Suspect, all discussion is limited to anything in MSM - with no sleuthing.

    Salem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Link me to the MSM or LE reports that would allow for sleuthing of this person, please?

    If he is not a POI or Suspect, all discussion is limited to anything in MSM - with no sleuthing.

    Salem
    http://darliefacts.files.wordpress.c...nn-routier.pdf

    Page 126 - start from (1).

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    The sock found in the alley has, as far as we know, the DNA of exactly 3 people on it: Damon, Devin, and Darlie. The sock came from the Routier home and Darin said it was one of his socks.

    Red Herring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    The sock found in the alley has, as far as we know, the DNA of exactly 3 people on it: Damon, Devin, and Darlie. The sock came from the Routier home and Darin said it was one of his socks.

    Red Herring.
    I think we are discussing Gary Austin here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TellTheTruth View Post
    I think we are discussing Gary Austin here.
    Did you not post the following at the beginning of this new thread?

    "According to Darlie's testimony, the sock was found "directly in the path towards his home". She also states "We know he was outside his home at 2:30 that morning"

    The sock (IMO) is a red herring. Gary's DNA is not on the sock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TellTheTruth View Post
    Anyone have more information on this guy?

    According to Darlie's testimony, the sock was found "directly in the path towards his home". She also states "We know he was outside his home at 2:30 that morning"

    And as of Darlie's take on Gary's wife's statements that she found her husband coming into their residence at about 2.30am - 2.45pm fully clothed.

    Certainly seems like there's something there worth following up - how far did the police investigate?

    Anyone know?
    You are forgetting about how Darlie claimed Gary Austin could stand in his balcony almost a block away from her house, and watch her in her hot tub, which happened to be covered all the way round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paysee View Post
    You are forgetting about how Darlie claimed Gary Austin could stand in his balcony almost a block away from her house, and watch her in her hot tub, which happened to be covered all the way round
    That's what I can't understand. The sock was three doors down - not a block away. There seems to be some bad information here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TellTheTruth View Post
    That's what I can't understand. The sock was three doors down - not a block away. There seems to be some bad information here.
    Bad information? Darlie was just playing the SODDI game. There wasn't a bit of evidence against either Gary Austin or Glen Mize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paysee View Post
    Bad information? Darlie was just playing the SODDI game. There wasn't a bit of evidence against either Gary Austin or Glen Mize.
    I find it interesting that Gary's wife suggests he was coming back into the house around 2.30-2.45am fully clothed.

    I can't find where this has been investigated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TellTheTruth View Post
    I find it interesting that Gary's wife suggests he was coming back into the house around 2.30-2.45am fully clothed.

    I can't find where this has been investigated.
    I believe Austin said he went out to get in the laundry. Yes, it was an odd time to get in the laundry, and odd to get dressed at that time just to get in the laundry, but not incriminating.

    It would have been interesting if there was any other material evidence to show Gary Austin even went near the Routier house that night. An eyewitness, a fingerprint, DNA, hair fibres... something?

    I think it would be easier for the police to investigate a named person of interest than an unidentified intruder. But, there was nothing to link him to the crime scene.

    Off topic, but I wonder how good was the marital relationship between Gary Austin and his wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paysee View Post
    I believe Austin said he went out to get in the laundry. Yes, it was an odd time to get in the laundry, and odd to get dressed at that time just to get in the laundry, but not incriminating.

    It would have been interesting if there was any other material evidence to show Gary Austin even went near the Routier house that night. An eyewitness, a fingerprint, DNA, hair fibres... something?

    I think it would be easier for the police to investigate a named person of interest than an unidentified intruder. But, there was nothing to link him to the crime scene.

    Off topic, but I wonder how good was the marital relationship between Gary Austin and his wife.

    All good points - the consensus is that nobody else was considered a suspect from quite early on so nobody was actively pursued. I remember reading this on Darlie's website and my immediate thought was it must be an excuse on her behalf, but the more I look into it, the truer it becomes.

    For Darin to be out the frame at such an early stage also brings up questions.

    I'm not for one second suggesting Darlie was railroaded here as the evidence coupled with her testimony and statements running up to the trial does indeed point to her being the likely perpetrator.

    That said, there are just too many unanswered questions and there also seems to be a dire lack of investigation other than that focusing on Darlie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TellTheTruth View Post
    All good points - the consensus is that nobody else was considered a suspect from quite early on so nobody was actively pursued. I remember reading this on Darlie's website and my immediate thought was it must be an excuse on her behalf, but the more I look into it, the truer it becomes.

    For Darin to be out the frame at such an early stage also brings up questions.

    I'm not for one second suggesting Darlie was railroaded here as the evidence coupled with her testimony and statements running up to the trial does indeed point to her being the likely perpetrator.

    That said, there are just too many unanswered questions and there also seems to be a dire lack of investigation other than that focusing on Darlie.
    1) Consensus among who? Darlie's friends and family?

    2) "More I look into it, the truer it becomes?"

    From your posts here, it appears you have looked into Gary Austin and find him a likely murderer. After all, he was outside his house at 2 A.M. Anything else or anyone else you have looked into?

    What you need to consider is that, only Darlie Routier was brought to trial. So we only heard the evidence against her. Darin Routier, Glenn Mize and Gary Austin were not charged with anything. The state had no reason to make public what investigations were done to rule them out.

    3) Darlie herself said over and over again that Darin was not the murderer. According to her testimony, the murderer ran out the garage window, and Darin came down down the stair not more than a few minutes later. Physically impossible for Darin to be in both places at once. Was Darlie lying about the intruder going out the garage, or about Darin coming down the stairs? Was she lying about her traumatic amnesia?

    4) What other investigations would you have done, were you the prosecutor in this case? Who else would you have considered suspects? Seriously asking.

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    While in jail, Darlie wrote letters to various people implicating Glenn Mize or Gary Austin as the intruder. Shook questioned Darlie about those letters and the accusations contained in them. In response, Mulder questioned Darlie about two private investigators working on her behalf, and the information they obtained (Defendants Exhibit No. 97). Per Darlie's testimony, she learned that Gary Austin had returned to his home from outside fully clothed and breathing heavy around 2:30 - 2:45 am, Gary Austin's house had the same floor plan the Darlie's residence, and that Gary Austin had been prowling around. Obviously some effort was made to investigate Gary Austin (videotaped interview), and based on this, I think its safe to say that if there was anything that implicated Gary Austin as being the intruder, Mulder would have pursued that issue further.


    20 Q. Let me show what has been marked for
    21 identification for record purpose as Defendant's Exhibit
    22 No. 97?
    23 A. Yes, sir.
    24 Q. Okay. Is that a report about the
    25 Austins?
    Sandra M. Halsey, CSR, Official Court Reporter
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    1 A. Yes, sir.
    2 Q. All right. And I'll ask you if, prior
    3 to the time that you wrote that letter, you received
    4 information from this private investigator, that he had
    5 gone down to the Austins' residence, he had heard about
    6 it through the neighborhood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paysee View Post
    1) Consensus among who? Darlie's friends and family?

    2) "More I look into it, the truer it becomes?"

    From your posts here, it appears you have looked into Gary Austin and find him a likely murderer. After all, he was outside his house at 2 A.M. Anything else or anyone else you have looked into?
    Have a read of my opening post. I'm asking for opinions.

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