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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing View Post
    That age progress resembles Becky Sue Turner/Lori Kennedy Ruff!

    Gonna post the link over there....
    I think so too and I can see wanting to have surgery with the nose, and severe abuse fits with FLEK mental issues?


    ROSE, can you get the brother to take a look at FLEK/LORI?

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    this was another suggested possibility posted for helen Green on another site like this one, http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1ufny.html

    https://www.facebook.com/CaledoniaNYJD1979

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticJynx View Post
    this was another suggested possibility posted for helen Green on another site like this one, http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1ufny.html

    https://www.facebook.com/CaledoniaNYJD1979
    This is why we've been looking for Helen's family; for Cali. Read up; she was submitted a few months ago

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    As Helen's brother was found after the two of them had run away, what was the reason the Cook County authorities gave for not urging the parents to fill out a missing person's report on Helen? Were the authorities okay with just leaving her out there somewhere to fend for herself by not actively looking for her? A 13 year old is just a child. Cook County authorities need to be contacted again, IMO. Whomever was in authority then probably isn't now. They dropped the ball where this child is concerned.

    I will never understand why there is not DNA on file for Helen because it can be compared to so many Jane Does. Whomever did the abusing is practically 30 years older now and may be dead or not looking for her. What is left of her family deserve to know what happened to her. If she is dead, she could be brought home to her family and given the dignity of a proper burial. If she is alive and located, then respect her wishes if she chooses not to either come back or re-join her family.

    BTW, what type of Youth Camp did she and her brother run away from? TIA.

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    Because in the 1970's, police departments for the most part did not take missing persons reports on runaways. If they picked up a juvenile from somewhere else, they'd send them home (or at least tell them to go home) but they weren't in the business of tracking down kids or getting involved in what was at the time seen as family business. I'm not saying it was right or wrong, just the way it was.

    Also, in the early 70's most people would not have considered a 13-year-old to be a child. ID was not needed often and people didn't ask as many questions. Especially if she was tall for her age, she could easily have lied about her age and gotten a job waiting tables, cleaning motel rooms, or working in a kitchen.
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    My best friend went missing when we were 12 years old. That was back in 1963 and it was taken very, very seriously. Groups were formed to look for her. It was during the summer and we were both to turn 13 that year. My birthday is in July and hers was in August. Now if she were to be 15 years old, I agree that she would most likely have been thought of as a runaway teen. Believe me, we were just kids. My best friend was eventually found. She had drown.

    In my adult life, I went to work for the very same Sheriff's Office that had handled her case. A missing person's report was done and LE vowed to look for her as long as it took. I disagree with you as to how you say it was back then (at least here) because I lived through that time frame.

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    I shouldn't have made my comment sound nearly as universal as I did -- but it certainly doesn't surprise me that there's no missing persons report for someone who is known to have run away at that time. I'm sorry about your friend -- and yes, somebody who might have been injured, hurt, or taken would have been searched for. I was only talking about kids who were known to have run away.
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    Helen is resonating with me. I grew up in Chicago. . And was born in '58. She could have been a classmate of mine. (But wasn't). I remember threatening to run away at about 12. My Dad sat me down and calmly talked to me about the horrible things that could happen. . Not TOO graphically. . Leaving out sexual junk.. but it was graphic enough that I don't think I ever considered it again. Of course in Helen's case it sounds like it was the only option she felt sh e had. I hope her brother decides what's best for him and her in the search.

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    NCMEC held Helen's NamUs profile up; but it finally went online.

    Helen Marie Green NamUs MP #24164

    Compared & ruled out as FLEK
    Exclusions - The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Clara Giusti 1962 Washington
    Michelle Giusti 1961 Washington
    Helen Green 1958 Illinois

    Caledonia Jane Doe NamUs UP #6583
    Exclusions - The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    Helen Green 1958 Illinois

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    Good Job RL!!! her story is so sad, geeze kinda reminds me of Tammy Jo too! You are great! thank you for all the work you put in , Im really glad I see you on alot of the threads I follow!


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    Now the harder part begins. Looking through all the Jane Doe's and deciding if any of them could be Helen Marie. Her family seems fairly certain that she would have headed towards New York. They say she was seen a few times around the old Cook County Hospital in Chicago after she went missing. I think she could have headed most any direction if she made it out of Illinois. After all the abuse this child endured, I hope she made it and managed to stay alive. I am not sure that is a very realistic thought, as I feel she would have contacted some of her family if that was the case.

    I'd like to have a photo of her done with longer hair. We are also still working on getting a photo of her from a better angle. When you look at her, do any of our Jane Doe's come to mind? It's time for this child to make it back home.


    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1341

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5221

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10929

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11798
    Last edited by Still_Seek_Answers; 10-12-2014 at 02:47 AM.
    Debora Sue Lowe - Age 13, missing from Pompano, FL since February 29, 1972 (Leap Year)
    Missing Child Haunts Family Nearly 40 Years Later - 9/19/2011
    White Female
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Brown
    Height: 56″
    Weight: 125 lbs
    Debbie is believed to have been a victim of the serial killer Gerard John Schaefer Jr. He was convicted of only two murders in the 1970s but is believed to be responsible for the murders and disappearances of many other girls and young women in the 60s and 70s, including Wendy Stevenson, Peggy Rahn ,Carmen Hallock, Pamela Nater and Nancy Leichner in 1966.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roselvr View Post
    Age progression



    Helen's jacket photo shopped out

    Ears are so different...............
    Media thread for Abby and Libby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Still_Seek_Answers View Post
    Now the harder part begins. Looking through all the Jane Doe's and deciding if any of them could be Helen Marie. Her family seems fairly certain that she would have headed towards New York. They say she was seen a few times around the old Cook County Hospital in Chicago after she went missing. I think she could have headed most any direction if she made it out of Illinois. After all the abuse this child endured, I hope she made it and managed to stay alive. I am not sure that is a very realistic thought, as I feel she would have contacted some of her family if that was the case.

    I'd like to have a photo of her done with longer hair. We are also still working on getting a photo of her from a better angle. When you look at her, do any of our Jane Doe's come to mind? It's time for this child to make it back home.


    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1341

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5221

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10929

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11798
    I honestly do not think Helen is listed. I feel she will either be found locally or she will be an older JD

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    Her little face is so sad. Jutting out her chin in resolve, not defiance. Those eyes. :-(

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1195ufmi.html

    A new listing on DN.

    1195UFMI_LARGE.jpg

    Unidentified Female

    Date of Discovery: March 25, 1976
    Location of Discovery: Highland Park, Wayne County, Michigan
    Estimated Date of Death: Hours prior
    State of Remains: Recognizable face
    Cause of Death: Accidental

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