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  1. #361
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony2 View Post
    Mod note:
    The general discussion thread will close tomorrow morning until further notice. Members can create topic specific threads for new developments in the case or as the need arises. Topical threads would include the judge’s motivational report, the defense’s appeal, and extradition. New threads will go under mod review and a decision will be made whether to approve and open the thread for posting. Most threads are approved immediately.

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    Good move. Thanks for being a great mod Harmony.
    Judge: "I see. And what evidence leads you to make these claims?"
    Prosecutor: "I didn't say we had evidence. I said we believe."
    Judge: "Molta buona. Proceed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSmith View Post
    Not true.

    http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/145Statement.pdf

    Her statement doesn't even mention talking to Popavic and instead says she immediately left at 8.30pm after replying to Patricks text.
    That is only closer to the timing I indicated. In the 5:45am statement she says around 9pm though.

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    I think Judge Hellmann summed up the verdict best.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1204879/am...ny-of-decision

    "I remain certain that there is no concrete evidence at all against these two young people.

    "This new sentence was on the cards - it's tied to the decision made by the Supreme Court - Amanda's not doing a bad thing by not coming back to Italy."

    Wise words from a good man.



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    Last edited by Harmony 2; 02-06-2014 at 10:28 AM.
    Judge: "I see. And what evidence leads you to make these claims?"
    Prosecutor: "I didn't say we had evidence. I said we believe."
    Judge: "Molta buona. Proceed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlockh View Post
    That is only closer to the timing I indicated. In the 5:45am statement she says around 9pm though.
    http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/545Statement.pdf

    "I am very confused in my head. I do not recall whether Meredith was screaming and if [I? she?](*) also heard thuds [tonfi] because I was involved, but I was imagining what could have happened."
    Judge: "I see. And what evidence leads you to make these claims?"
    Prosecutor: "I didn't say we had evidence. I said we believe."
    Judge: "Molta buona. Proceed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSmith View Post
    What is the point? I was talking about the 9pm she mentioned. The repeated use of the word 'immediately' is an indication that she did leave 'immediately' but after the visit of the Polish student. This all fits with the CCTV images and Guede's testimony. That was my point.
    We met immediately afterward around 9:00 pm at the basketball court on Piazza Grimana. We went to my house at Via Della Pergola no. 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlockh View Post
    What is the point? I was talking about the 9pm she mentioned. The repeated use of the word 'immediately' is an indication that she did leave 'immediately' but after the visit of the Polish student. This all fits with the CCTV images and Guede's testimony. That was my point.
    Why are things Guede says reliable except when he tells his best friend before being arrested:

    http://www.amandaknox.com/wp-content...kype-Chat.docx

    “Amanda had nothing to do with it”

    ”Because I fought with a male and she wasn’t there”

    When asked who was there….

    ”I don’t know, I didn’t see his face”
    Judge: "I see. And what evidence leads you to make these claims?"
    Prosecutor: "I didn't say we had evidence. I said we believe."
    Judge: "Molta buona. Proceed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSmith View Post
    Why are things Guede says reliable except when he tells his best friend before being arrested:

    http://www.amandaknox.com/wp-content...kype-Chat.docx

    “Amanda had nothing to do with it”

    ”Because I fought with a male and she wasn’t there”

    When asked who was there….

    ”I don’t know, I didn’t see his face”
    I didn't say they are reliable. They are both liars, but it just so happened that both their timings including the CCTV timings match up pretty closely. Guede never said that Knox was not in the house. He only says she is not there when he is fighting with the killer. In fact, he indicated that she was in the house, and made this very clear later on. I don't believe him but even if Knox was sitting in the kitchen blocking out the screams of Meredith that doesn't make her any less guilty. JMO.

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    Last edited by KateB; 05-23-2015 at 08:59 AM. Reason: repair url tag.
    Judge: "I see. And what evidence leads you to make these claims?"
    Prosecutor: "I didn't say we had evidence. I said we believe."
    Judge: "Molta buona. Proceed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlockh View Post
    I didn't say they are reliable. They are both liars, but it just so happened that both their timings including the CCTV timings match up pretty closely. Guede never said that Knox was not in the house. He only says she is not there when he is fighting with the killer. In fact, he indicated that she was in the house, and made this very clear later on. I don't believe him but even if Knox was sitting in the kitchen blocking out the screams of Meredith that doesn't make her any less guilty. JMO.
    If it were true then of course it does. It would make her merely a witness not guilty of murder and sexual assault.

    If you want to accept the verdict and believe the prosecutions case then you have to believe she plunged the knife into her friends throat and sexually assaulted her because those were the charges. How she sexually assaulted a female and what evidence supports that has never been explained since it's Guede's DNA inside her.
    Judge: "I see. And what evidence leads you to make these claims?"
    Prosecutor: "I didn't say we had evidence. I said we believe."
    Judge: "Molta buona. Proceed."

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    R.I.P. Meredith.

    And may justice for the convicted murderers continue to commence.
    KTCA : Karma Target Casey Anthony.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony2 View Post
    Mod note:
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