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    I wonder if the 'smoke smell' could have just been from driving with the gas cans for so long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    I believe the rental agent's testimony was it smelled like smoke when she returned. Agencies clean them prior to rental so that was on her return slip, along with the missing mats. jmo
    The smoke smell remark was noted initially when Jodi picked up the car on June 2. Jodi is the one who complained of smoke smell in the car, so the agent noted it on the June 2 receipt.
    We can see the same smoke smell remark when she returns the car only because of the initial remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketaccent View Post
    The smoke smell remark was noted initially when Jodi picked up the car on June 2. Jodi is the one who complained of smoke smell in the car, so the agent noted it on the June 2 receipt.
    We can see the same smoke smell remark when she returns the car only because of the initial remark.
    Was this on her paperwork prior to picking it up or was this what JA testified to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    Was this on her paperwork prior to picking it up or was this what JA testified to?
    It is shown on the June 2 rental receipt evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketaccent View Post
    It is shown on the June 2 rental receipt evidence.
    Yes. I just watched the video of the agent's testimony and he never mentioned smoke. So it must have been speculation by a poster at the time as to the smoke smell. The agent never mentions the smoke, just the Kool-Aid stains and the missing mats. See how easily things get carried away and accepted as fact. Thanks, pocketaccent. jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by geevee View Post
    Yes, once she left SLC she only refilled her gas tank for the amount of gas used on the previous leg, so all gas that was in the cans from filling them in SLC remained in them until she got back to Yreka. Maybe she kept the full cans at home thinking she'd need them soon to attend Travis' funeral.
    We know the reason for filling up the 3 cans in Pasadena CA- she wanted to be invisible in Mesa.
    What is the reason for filling up the 3 cans in SLC - She wanted someone to be invisible in California. I will explain why I am thinking that.

    1. I roughly calculated her miles (according to her testimony) to be ~2835 miles vs the actual miles driven according to rental receipts 2834 miles. This is from Redding back to Redding.
    If her testimony could be believed, she did a pretty good job of matching the miles driven as shown on the rental receipts.

    2. She filled up her tank and 3 cans in SLC, filled up again in Winnemucca, then filled up again in Sparks on June 6. She clearly wanted to be visible in those places and she clearly didn't need any gas from the gas cans to get to Sparks.
    Then she returns the car empty on June 7. So far it makes sense to me why her tank is empty.

    I think somewhere between Sparks, June 6 and Redding, June 7, she gave the 3 cans full of gas to someone so her alibi could be invisible.
    Last edited by pocketaccent; 02-09-2014 at 04:58 PM.

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    The "smoke smell" remark is on the rental receipt from day one of the rental. I assume that when she returned it, that remark remained in there from when she first commented upon it.

    rental receipt.jpg

    Notice on this initial receipt, it has "estimated charges." It doesn't appear to have the 2800 or so miles driven logged on it yet, either. Notice on this initial receipt that it also does not note that the car came back with no gas. So, comparing these two receipts, it becomes apparent that the smoke smell was first noted on June 2nd.
    "If Jodi's lips are moving...if her pen is moving...then she lie, lie, lies!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketaccent View Post
    We know the reason for filling up the 3 cans in Pasadena CA- she wanted to be invisible in Mesa.
    What is the reason for filling up the 3 cans in SLC - She wanted someone to be invisible in California. I will explain why I am thinking that.

    1. I roughly calculated her miles (according to her testimony) to be ~2835 miles vs the actual miles driven according to rental receipts 2834 miles. This is from Redding back to Redding.
    If her testimony could be believed, she did a pretty good job of matching the miles driven as shown on the rental receipts.

    2. She filled up her tank and 3 cans in SLC, filled up again in Winnemucca, then filled up again in Sparks on June 6. She clearly wanted to be visible in those places and she clearly didn't need any gas from the gas cans to get to Sparks.
    Then she returns the car empty on June 7. So far it makes sense to me why her tank is empty.

    I think somewhere between Sparks, June 6 and Redding, June 7, she gave the 3 cans full of gas to someone so her alibi could be invisible.
    BBM

    I'm not following your last sentence. I believe Flores said they found two gas cans at her grandmother's, right? And I can't remember if they were full or empty. That doesn't mean she didn't give them to someone and then get them back, but I think the third can disappeared by the time police got onto her.

    I also can't remember if they were in her new rental car that she was claiming to take to visit Darryl and Matt. The knives in the new rental, she claimed she was taking those to Darryl and books to Matt. So, I want to know if those gas cans were in her car, too. She should have logically been taking them back to Darryl.
    "If Jodi's lips are moving...if her pen is moving...then she lie, lie, lies!"

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    Thanks for posting the first receipt WM, I was too lazy to go look for it
    to back up what I said above and only had a copy of the one when she
    returned the car.

    I'm starting to lose my memory of who testified to what, was hoping for a refresher
    course with the retrial but we may not get much on a daily basis is status quo
    continues throughout. Any guesstimate of when Flores testified about the 2nd
    rental? I'll YT and find the relevant part if you have any idea of when it was.

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    I admit. I'm weird. I like the smell of gas. I also have a boyfriend who hurt his back and smokes inside. Gas and smoke do not smell the same. Is it known for sure that she is the non smoker she claims to be? She could have smoked a cigarette or whatever and burned something in the car. Or she could have burned documents. I don't know how she'd burn a gun and a knife. I think that she put them somewhere that no one would think to look but is right in front of everyone's faces. If she was into check kiting - and thanks for telling me what that was in the last thread because it explains a lot- then she'd have to have documents to burn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    Yes. I just watched the video of the agent's testimony and he never mentioned smoke. So it must have been speculation by a poster at the time as to the smoke smell. The agent never mentions the smoke, just the Kool-Aid stains and the missing mats. See how easily things get carried away and accepted as fact. Thanks, pocketaccent. jmo
    Thanks pocketaccent and LambChop.

    My bad for speculating. The "smoke smell" could of very well been from cigarettes also.

    Also, the car rental guy testified Jodi was blonde when she rented the car.

    She did have blonde hair in her DL pic.

    I am not 100% sure she dyed her hair darker in Salinas, but Juan did bring it up and led us to believe she did.
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    One thing that puzzles me, is why Jodi called Travis so many times on her road trip.

    She didn't cover herself too well with the phone. moo
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasnt_me View Post
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    I'm not following your last sentence. I believe Flores said they found two gas cans at her grandmother's, right? And I can't remember if they were full or empty. That doesn't mean she didn't give them to someone and then get them back, but I think the third can disappeared by the time police got onto her.

    I also can't remember if they were in her new rental car that she was claiming to take to visit Darryl and Matt. The knives in the new rental, she claimed she was taking those to Darryl and books to Matt. So, I want to know if those gas cans were in her car, too. She should have logically been taking them back to Darryl.
    My English isn't the best but I will try to explain what I'm thinking.
    I have a theory which is based on the premise that Jodi wouldn't fill up three gas cans unless she had a good reason. She once filled them up in Pasadena for a very good reason - hide.

    She did it again in SLC. She knew in SLC that she needed extra 15 gallons of gas once she gets to California. She must have filled them up for another good reason. She wanted to hide some activity. We don't know what that activity is. We do know that she did not use about 15 gallons of gas which would provide extra 500 miles. We also know she is not the one who drove the extra 500 miles.

    That is why I think she gave three gas cans to someone.
    Jodi did not want this person to be 'seen' at any gas station on the way to his/her final destination. But if Flores did in fact said two gas cans were found in her grandma's, and they were full, then I have to work on my theory again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElleElle View Post
    One thing that puzzles me, is why Jodi called Travis so many times on her road trip.

    She didn't cover herself too well with the phone. moo
    She was purposely documenting all of her activities during her trip. ALL except while she was in Arizona. "Look at my phone my records! I called my friend Travis in California and Nevada. We communicate a lot! Look at my gas receipts from California, Nevada, and Utah! I was never in Arizona!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketaccent View Post
    My English isn't the best but I will try to explain what I'm thinking.
    I have a theory which is based on the premise that Jodi wouldn't fill up three gas cans unless she had a good reason. She once filled them up in Pasadena for a very good reason - hide.

    She did it again in SLC. She knew in SLC that she needed extra 15 gallons of gas once she gets to California. She must have filled them up for another good reason. She wanted to hide some activity. We don't know what that activity is. We do know that she did not use about 15 gallons of gas which would provide extra 500 miles. We also know she is not the one who drove the extra 500 miles.

    That is why I think she gave three gas cans to someone.
    Jodi did not want this person to be 'seen' at any gas station on the way to his/her final destination. But if Flores did in fact said two gas cans were found in her grandma's, and they were full, then I have to work on my theory again.
    It is possible she was paying for someone else's gas who was not too far behind?
    "One man's logic is another man's crazy" - Rossi (Criminal Minds)

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