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    IL - Robert 'Bobby' Martin, 17, Naperville, 9 April 2004


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    "Late one night in May 2004, Palmer took the body to Resthaven Park Cemetery, and found a freshly dug grave. He shoveled about 4 feet into the ground, and put Martin's body in the hole, near the top of a woman's coffin, authorities said."

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/16/ari....ap/index.html

    I wonder how many other bodies that are missing have been disposed of in this way? Such a simple way to dispose of a body, but would make it very hard to find. The soil would be very easy to dig, no one would notice it had been dug, because it was known that the soil was disturbed to bury the casket And hiding a body in a cemetary! Who would even think to look there?
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Concealing a Murder

    Jeez.....this story is going to give some murderers ideas on how to conceal/hide a body......

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/16/ari....ap/index.html

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    Yes I just saw this post in the missing/located forum. Who would ever think to look for a missing body in a cemetary? So simple, yet the soil would be easy to dig, and no one would take notice of it being disturbed.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    This is crazy.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/16/ari....ap/index.html

    How bad is this world getting to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew
    "Late one night in May 2004, Palmer took the body to Resthaven Park Cemetery, and found a freshly dug grave. He shoveled about 4 feet into the ground, and put Martin's body in the hole, near the top of a woman's coffin, authorities said."

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/16/ari....ap/index.html

    I wonder how many other bodies that are missing have been disposed of in this way? Such a simple way to dispose of a body, but would make it very hard to find. The soil would be very easy to dig, no one would notice it had been dug, because it was known that the soil was disturbed to bury the casket And hiding a body in a cemetary! Who would even think to look there?
    Well, I hate to call the killer smart, but......It is pretty clever. I just it didnt give others the idea.

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    The only problem would be the left over soil- unless it was spread.... and the depression after nature took its course... :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk's mom
    Jeez.....this story is going to give some murderers ideas on how to conceal/hide a body......

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/16/ari....ap/index.html
    I was thinking the same thing. Now, I wonder if other missing people may have shared the same fate. How would you ever know?

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    From May 2005:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...e-investigator

    Phoenix police say a man has confessed to beating Martin to death with a baseball bat last year and burying his body above a coffin in an existing grave in a cemetery in suburban Glendale...

    Martin was a student at Waubonsie Valley High School in Aurora when his mother filed a missing person report with the Naperville Police Department on April 13, 2004. She told police she had last seen her son April 9.

    Police said Martin flew to Arizona to meet with Palmer. Palmer told police that Martin came to Arizona to buy marijuana and take it back to the Chicago area where he could sell it at a profit, Morales said. "They got into a verbal dispute over the business end of it."
    From March 2007:

    http://ktar.com/6/1081393/Man-Convic...ring-17YearOld

    A man was convicted in Maricopa County Superior Court Wednesday of robbing and beating an Illinois teen to death before burying him in an occupied grave.

    The jury deliberated for two days before convicting Richie Palmer of first-degree murder, robbery, theft, criminal damage and two conspiracy charges.
    Sentenced to life in prison per Arizona DOC records:

    https://corrections.az.gov/public-re...ate-datasearch



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