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    IMO eligible means it is possible. Not absolutely. Doesn't somebody have to make the decision on that eligibility? I think he should be able to do any 'studies' he needs to do from prison. Why does he have to leave the prison to study? I don't understand.

    Any work needs to be done? Hire some of the unemployed... let him clean up in or around the prison. Simple.
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    Hope that he does not get released soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgfred View Post
    IMO eligible means it is possible. Not absolutely. Doesn't somebody have to make the decision on that eligibility? I think he should be able to do any 'studies' he needs to do from prison. Why does he have to leave the prison to study? I don't understand.

    Any work needs to be done? Hire some of the unemployed... let him clean up in or around the prison. Simple.
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    I agree, Dgfred. If he has to leave the prison to do his studies, then he just can't do his studies at the moment. Pretty simple, just like you said. He can read in prison. He can write in prison. He can try to teach himself in prison. Everything else has to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Footwarrior View Post
    To me, the verdict made it clear that Rudy Guede will be out on the streets before Italy gives up on prosecuting Amanda Knox.

    Today we learned that Rudy Geude is being released during the day so he can peruse a degree.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...killer-3132708

    I must say that whatever we say about Rudy, there is no question that his lawyer is good. IMO, he got the best lawyer out of the 3 of them. Or maybe it's just that he listened to his lawyer, while Amanda and RS didn't. IDK. For example, it could be that Amanda and RS lawyers told them, look, there is a lot of evidence against you, there is high probablity that you will get convicted based on this evidence. Or something like that. In other words, let them know the odds they were facing. But then they just didn't listen to them. Or, on the other hand, could be that the lawyers didn't tell them that. So I don't know, but I think whatever Rudy's lawyer told him was good advice. IMO, I think what probably happened is that Rudy of course knew he would get convicted, on top of that he listened to his lawyers about things like staying quiet, don't talk. So the question is, did Amanda's lawyers tell her that, too? And she just didn't listen?
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    Kercher’s family is upset about the new arrangement and said in a statement that “Rudy Guede being allowed out of prison to study like this is a sick joke.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgfred View Post
    IMO eligible means it is possible. Not absolutely. Doesn't somebody have to make the decision on that eligibility? I think he should be able to do any 'studies' he needs to do from prison. Why does he have to leave the prison to study? I don't understand.

    Any work needs to be done? Hire some of the unemployed... let him clean up in or around the prison. Simple.
    From reading the article, I understood that he is eligible, but has not yet applied to leave prison during the day to study. Instead, he is studying history and he has a teacher at the prison.

    The eligibility for day release for study/work is to begin the process of transitioning him back into society. The article also stated that continued day release depends on his behavior, and that any infraction can result in the loss of those privileges.

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    The Kercher family didn't say anything. I doubt they would respond, and certainly don't use that kind of language.

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    "Meredith's family, who live in Coulsdon, Surrey, have yet to comment on the news."

    http://www.closeronline.co.uk/2014/0...history-degree

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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    Fortunately, in Italy, professionals have the skills and patience to work with broken people.
    The point of jail is not just to rehabilitate, but to punish. Meredith's life is gone, her family will not have her for the rest of their lives, and this guy goes to jail for a relatively brief time. If someone killed someone you loved, would you be okay with them getting as few years as this guy in jail?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Effective View Post
    The point of jail is not just to rehabilitate, but to punish. Meredith's life is gone, her family will not have her for the rest of their lives, and this guy goes to jail for a relatively brief time. If someone killed someone you loved, would you be okay with them getting as few years as this guy in jail?
    At least he's done some time and is attempting to educate himself to make something of himself. Meredith's other killers haven't seen any jail time yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Effective View Post
    The point of jail is not just to rehabilitate, but to punish. Meredith's life is gone, her family will not have her for the rest of their lives, and this guy goes to jail for a relatively brief time. If someone killed someone you loved, would you be okay with them getting as few years as this guy in jail?
    The US prison system is founded on the concept of punishment. Other penal systems are founded on the concept of rehabilitation. I don't understand why, throughout this trial, so many people seem to believe that the US justice system should apply in Italy. Other countries have different justice systems and that's just the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinasK View Post
    At least he's done some time and is attempting to educate himself to make something of himself. Meredith's other killers haven't seen any jail time yet...
    can we please stick to the facts?

    amanda and raffaele were both in university when meredith was killed... and both kept up their studies in prison. and both continued to study after they were released.

    and both have seen jail time... about four years.

    now let's discuss what guede was doing before he was arrested... what was it again? oh yeah-- cutting classes then dropping out of college, breaking and entering, stealing, threatening his victims with knives, fleeing the country, night clubbing, dealing drugs...

    Rudy Guede - The Murderer of Meredith Kercher - YouTube

    the sympathy and applause he apparently receives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    The US prison system is founded on the concept of punishment. Other penal systems are founded on the concept of rehabilitation.

    At that time, Italy had 54,000 prisoners in a system designed to hold only 29,000. After almost two decades the problem has only worsened. “The continuous increase in the jails overcrowding and the significant presence of foreign prisoners makes pursuing the rehabilitative aim of punishment extremely complex and often in vain,” Napolitano told the head of the Italian prison administration department....
    more @ http://sentencing.typepad.com/senten...he-europe.html


    Justice Minister Anna Maria Cancellieri... complain[ed] that Italy's prison system represented an embarrassment to a civilized country.
    more @ http://www.ibtimes.com/italys-overcr...rtions-1310555
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    Quote Originally Posted by LinasK View Post
    At least he's done some time and is attempting to educate himself to make something of himself. Meredith's other killers haven't seen any jail time yet...
    AK and RS both spent 4 years in jail before being released. Are you implying that others played a role in the death of MK?

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