SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #16

imamaze · Dec 28, 2013

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Salem · Jan 15, 2014

The police report can be discussed, but NO NAMES, NO REDACTED INFORMATION, NO PERSONAL INFORMATION.

No talking about wives, ex's, employment, etc. unless you have a link that is NOT RELATED to the police report.

This is going to require restraint and cooperation on everyone's part. It if becomes too difficult, we will close the discussion.

MSM released the report and they can't take it back now. But that doesn't mean this is a free for all. We need to be respectful of LE's investigation and unnamed POIs/suspect. Given that LE has NOT named ANY POI/Suspect - you may NOT consider anyone mentioned as such.

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imamaze · Feb 10, 2014

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Salem · Feb 15, 2014

Please continue here.

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PeterThomasFan · Feb 15, 2014

Wonder if LE searches did in fact happen today? I was itching to drive by but didn't. Anyone know for sure?

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QuestionMark · Feb 15, 2014

I just wish they would give us a POI... Lol I know wishful thinking huh.

Canaille · Feb 15, 2014

I have a feeling that LE everywhere will no longer name someone as a POI. In my opinion, too much liability involved.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_interest

SharetheLight · Feb 15, 2014

PeterThomasFan said:
Wonder if LE searches did in fact happen today? I was itching to drive by but didn't. Anyone know for sure?

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I don't know but I'm curious as well. Anyone?

eileenhawkeye · Feb 15, 2014

Canaille said:
I have a feeling that LE everywhere will no longer name someone as a POI. In my opinion, too much liability involved.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_interest

It still happens. These are recent examples:

Law enforcement sources say Maui Police have named Bernard Brown a 'person of interest' in the case of a missing woman.

The Lubbock County Sheriff's Office has named a person of interest in the disappearance of Meagan Hembree, 30

The estranged husband of Charlestowns Kelly Robarge is a person of interest in her disappearance and has been questioned, police said.

The Chisago County Sheriff's Office is now describing Aaron Schnagl, the friend of a missing woman who was last seen at his home, as a person of interest in the investigation.

The Sebastian County Sheriff's Office (SCSO) says there's a second person of interest in the case of a missing 5-year-old boy.

Gainesville police have identified a person of interest in the case of a University of Florida student who has been missing since Thursday evening and who police believe may be the victim of foul play.

The Carroll County Sheriff's Office on Tuesday, named a person of interest in the search for a missing Fries mother.

Just do a search for something like ( named person of interest missing) and many articles come up.

Just K · Feb 15, 2014

They have not named a POI but they likely have one or two unnamed suspects in mind.

cluciano63 · Feb 15, 2014

I am not much understanding LE more or less encouraging, IMO, the anger toward SM, if he is not the main POI/suspect. Maybe they are not throwing his name around, but if not, they are not asking media to hold back. JMO

eileenhawkeye · Feb 15, 2014

cluciano63 said:
I am not much understanding LE more or less encouraging, IMO, the anger toward SM, if he is not the main POI/suspect. Maybe they are not throwing his name around, but if not, they are not asking media to hold back. JMO

If he's not the (main) suspect, then the only other possibility I can think of is that LE is looking at someone else, and wants the real killer to think they got away with it. So everyone is focused on SM, while LE is investigating someone else. I actually feel like this happens relatively frequently. There have been cases where the public suspected someone, LE made no effort to clear this person, and then arrests someone else.

Canaille · Feb 15, 2014

cluciano63 said:
I am not much understanding LE more or less encouraging, IMO, the anger toward SM, if he is not the main POI/suspect. Maybe they are not throwing his name around, but if not, they are not asking media to hold back. JMO

It is little puzzling to me.

Do you think it's a mental tactic they are using?

cluciano63 · Feb 15, 2014

Maybe it is a tactic, but it will backfire if someones goes over the edge and SM winds up inured or dead...

eileenhawkeye · Feb 15, 2014

Are the concerns that a lot of us have about the possibility of vigilante justice relatively unique to this case? In a lot of cases, there is a main suspect but I can't remember one where many of us felt something bad was going to happen if an arrest wasn't made.

hockeymom4 · Feb 15, 2014

cluciano63 said:
I am not much understanding LE more or less encouraging, IMO, the anger toward SM, if he is not the main POI/suspect. Maybe they are not throwing his name around, but if not, they are not asking media to hold back. JMO

Here is how I feel....the anger towards SM would have been there regardless if MSM ever mentioned his name and I believe that his name would be in SM if it was never mentioned on MSM. MSM is mentioning his name and they are stating the facts of the case. [modsnip], IMO.

Ghostwheel · Feb 15, 2014

cluciano63 said:
I am not much understanding LE more or less encouraging, IMO, the anger toward SM, if he is not the main POI/suspect. Maybe they are not throwing his name around, but if not, they are not asking media to hold back. JMO

Yeah, but you've seen this before. Circumstantial evidence point to a certain individual or individuals, but not enough for charges. The only other viable possibility is just some random stranger, or someone for whom there is no evidence at all. LE cannot rule out circumstantial person unless there is an ironclad alibi (as in date who was probably somewhere with witnesses when BW was still talking to HE). Freedom of speech is still protected. (I can say I think anyone is a murderer if I want-I have the right to think that and say that I think that). And here we are. Just like in several other cases (Dylan Redwine comes to mind, but that is MO).

QuestionMark · Feb 15, 2014

eileenhawkeye said:
Are the concerns that a lot of us have about the possibility of vigilante justice relatively unique to this case? In a lot of cases, there is a main suspect but I can't remember one where many of us felt something bad was going to happen if an arrest wasn't made.

I can't think of one this bad.... Though I must say those who are beyond convinced of Terri Horman's guilt often gather in front of her parents house, chalk the sidewalks, post signs and write really ugly things online. After following the disappearance of Kyron for over 3.5 years, I honestly have no idea who disappeared him and who was involved. I'm concerned in Kyron's case that public hatred of Terri has really damaged the case.

JMO

hockeymom4 · Feb 15, 2014

cluciano63 said:
Maybe it is a tactic, but it will backfire if someones goes over the edge and SM winds up inured or dead...

Personally, if he winds up injured or dead, it's not because someone learned of his name in MSM. It was known that they had a relationship, they talked that night per BW (so she knew) and the phone records were pulled per TE (so he then knew) and people at work could have known. They then have they ability to tell anyone and everyone. So, IMO, I don't think MSM mentioning his name is affecting his well being. Should it stop? Maybe, but I don't feel that has anything to do with it because people already know prior to MSM releasing the name.

SharetheLight · Feb 15, 2014

hockeymom4 said:
Personally, if he winds up injured or dead, it's not because someone learned of his name in SM. It was known that they had a relationship, they talked that night per BW (so she knew) and the phone records were pulled per TE (so he then knew) and people at work could have known. They then have they ability to tell anyone and everyone. So, IMO, I don't think MSM mentioning his name is affecting his well being. Should it stop? Maybe, but I don't feel that has anything to do with it because people already know prior to MSM releasing the name.

Sure people knew they dated, whenever they dated, but prior to LE and MSM mentioning him most, if not all people, weren't aware of the shenanigans he was involved in that were going on right up to the time she went missing.

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