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  1. #556
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    It makes me sick that this poor baby died. TG they did catch him and he will not hurt another precious child again.
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  3. #557
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    So it took 8 hours to find her body in the house? Or that's how long to determine that it was a young female?

    We were unable to determine until 10:45 this morning that it was young female.

    Why did it take so long to determine it was a young female?
    We didn't want to say without a degree of confidence.

    At around 3:00 with search warrant we discovered what might be her body.


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  5. #558
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    Boy, I'm having a hard time with this. Lots of time in between abduction and identification of Hailey.


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    Search warrant executed and search started about 7:30 (PM?)--a body found initially 2:30 AM with "initial cursory look," -- "we potentially have a body." About 3 AM chief notified and made contact with parents as well. At 10:45 this morning they were "able to determine visually they'd found a young female victim." [Explanatory details not forthcoming.]
    All my posts on this site are my opinion only, generated from brainstorming and my own attempts to logically put the pieces together.


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  9. #560
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    Okay done with presser....

    so it took 7.75 hours to determine with confidence that it was a young girl, probably Hailey.

    this makes me beyond disgusted and upset


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  11. #561
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leilei View Post
    Borrowing the truck shows premeditation to me. He planned this. Drove out of his area to do it. I wonder how long he had the truck, and if he has his own vehicle, then what excuse did he give to the truck's owner?

    I'm glad they are looking at other cases that he may be involved in. You don't just decide, out of the blue, to start kidnapping and murdering children at his age (IMO). But, this kidnapping was kind of sloppy - daylight, people out in the neighborhood. It will be interesting to see what information comes out about his history (behavior, friend and family statements).
    It does fit the profile of many pedophiles though. They are very bold and many take children right off the street in broad daylight. I have always felt that part of their repulsive thrill is the game they play. They are some of the highest risk takers there are, imo.

    I bet he didn't realize the people were in the garage ....watching him.

    He thought he had gotten away with it and thought no one was around. He was probably to involved in holding Hailey hostage inside the truck to notice the people running after him.

    Low life piece of garbage.

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  13. #562
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    1 washer & 2 dryers agents were collecting evidence from at laundry mat.

    business has reopened

    ^^ from news stream


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    Quote Originally Posted by iamnotagolem View Post
    Okay done with presser....

    so it took 7.75 hours to determine with confidence that it was a young girl, probably Hailey.

    this makes me beyond disgusted and upset
    You can hazard a guess at what he has done, I feel nauseated MOO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leilei View Post
    Borrowing the truck shows premeditation to me. He planned this. Drove out of his area to do it. I wonder how long he had the truck, and if he has his own vehicle, then what excuse did he give to the truck's owner?

    I'm glad they are looking at other cases that he may be involved in. You don't just decide, out of the blue, to start kidnapping and murdering children at his age (IMO). But, this kidnapping was kind of sloppy - daylight, people out in the neighborhood. It will be interesting to see what information comes out about his history (behavior, friend and family statements).
    Yes, I agree it was premeditated. Crimes like this are fantasized about for years usually before they are committed. Then the compulsion just takes over and the perp is willing to die in prison for the act they commit.

    Men will knowingly have sex with women they know have deadly diseases, and men in backwards countries will risk death to engage in "forbidden" sexual acts.

    I don't know how we harness the power of male sex drives when the drive involves a victim.

    Awful, awful story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeFromLB View Post
    They had the license plate number, but it took three and a half hours to locate him?!

    Did I hear that correctly?
    It wasn't his car and he wasn't at home.


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    He's been working in the school district for 15 years!

    A football coach, and possibly coached other sports.


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    Quote Originally Posted by iamnotagolem View Post
    Okay done with presser....

    so it took 7.75 hours to determine with confidence that it was a young girl, probably Hailey.

    this makes me beyond disgusted and upset
    I don't know. That may be simply out of an overabundance of caution - often LE's refuse to confirm they know the identity of the victim until t's are crossed and i's are dotted and all signatures are on the appropriate forms.


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  25. #568
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    RIP little one...

    The bad thing about him being an ISS teacher and a coach to me is that the ISS teacher (we called ours a time out teacher) spends time locked up with kiddos who are stuck in their office. These kids (mine included) have typically been not great kids and might not be believed if they did report because they have a history at the school and probably with their parents of not being respectful, etc.

    And a coach is in a position of trust as well where the kids might feel like they really can't tell because it might affect the team, etc.

    So sad and I hope there aren't more victims out there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by skibaboo View Post
    You can hazard a guess at what he has done, I feel nauseated MOO
    Same here. Especially since he left and did laundry (i'm assuming) washer & dryer, washers take 30 minutes minimum to run, then stuff into dryer.

    It definitely seems premeditated. Borrowing someone else's truck, taking her to his home, then hitting the laundry mat to hide evidence.

    I only hope now that Hailey didn't suffer for very long. I'm so so sad.


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    I have a feeling Hailey was not his first victim but glad will be his last.

    RIP Beautiful Hailey
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