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    I hope this okay to link to. I just came across this really sweet video on yahoo, about Bikers Against Child Abuse. They have supported Hailey's family, I though it was fitting.

    http://screen.yahoo.com/inspiration/...234809991.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jggordo View Post
    In regard to CMW's trust fund. Let me play devil's advocate. Let's say he has full access to his $1M trust fund. And gets his attorneys, DNA specialists, Mental Health specialists, you name it. How long do you think it would take to eat that up? Not long. He'll run out of money. When he's convicted he'll come back on appeal and say it was because he couldn't afford to keep up with prosecutions might. And get one. Who wants that? And who ends up with the $1M? A bunch of attorneys that charged retail.

    I say let the trust alone. The house is in all the family names. The crime happened there. Let Hailey's family sue (the family) in civil court for wrongful death and let the dollars fall closer to where they should. JMO
    I would prefer he have a PD although some PD are pretty good at trying cases.

    But I was always under the impression that Trusts cant be touched. Isnt that why Michael Jackson set up a Trust for his children? So no one would be able to touch it for any reason?

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    Then what's the point of putting money in there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tssiemer View Post
    I've been trying to do some research on the amber alerts effect on arrests, rescue, and recovery. The Amber alert could have freaked him out and he lost control of the situation. He could have also freaked out and killed her earlier than he intended to. Although I don't know what have been worse, being sexually tortured for years or death. Although Amanda Berry and the other girls from Ohio are obviously glad to be alive but have a long road ahead of them.


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    In the stranger pedophile/murder cases I have kept up for many years the victim child was killed very shortly after being kidnapped. So I think he fits the profile of the ones who kidnap, rape, and murder very quickly. These pedophiles think it is a necessity to murder the child rendering them voiceless unable to tell anyone what had happened to them.

    Strange that you mention 'which is worse' because incest rape victims have been abused emotionally, physically, and sexually for many years over and over again, yet the incest pedophile usually gets very little time for the repeated rapes/horrendous abuse, and sometimes only gets probation. But most incest pedophiles do not wind up murdering their victims although sometimes it has happened.

    Also when a stranger kidnaps, rapes, and murders a child they most often will be given the death penalty, and rightly so.

    What is different in this particular pedophile murder case is he shot Hailey which is very unusual. Most of the children are wound up being strangled or smothered. Even when murdering the victim the suspect wants it to be up close and personal as the kidnapping and rapes were.

    I would love to know what the criminal profilers make of the way he murdered her since it is highly unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    I would prefer he have a PD although some PD are pretty good at trying cases.
    <snip>



    I agree though. Who cares? It's a slam dunk case (I hope).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tssiemer View Post
    Then what's the point of putting money in there?


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    I think it is to be given out when the parents are no longer living. Something to fall back on when they are no longer here to pick up his tab.

    Just speculating though... Tssiemer.
    Last edited by oceanblueeyes; 02-27-2014 at 01:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tssiemer View Post
    I've been trying to do some research on the amber alerts effect on arrests, rescue, and recovery. The Amber alert could have freaked him out and he lost control of the situation. He could have also freaked out and killed her earlier than he intended to. Although I don't know what have been worse, being sexually tortured for years or death. Although Amanda Berry and the other girls from Ohio are obviously glad to be alive but have a long road ahead of them.


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    I am very interested in your research Tssiemer. I have always wondered how successful the AA has been when a stranger pedophile has abducted a child.

    Is there a case where the child was found alive due to the AA and was saved from the pedophile who took them? Off hand I cant remember any case but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

    AAs are great for non-custodial issues though but then so much more information is already known immediately and who exactly took them.

    Interesting and if you find anything during your research please update us.
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    Just as a side note, there was a vacancy made on death row in Missouri this week. Michael Taylor was executed on Wednesday morning for the rape and murder of a 15 year old girl in Kansas City in 1989. How ironic that on a day when Hailey was laid to rest, on the same day a place was made for her killer, in the future. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryGirl View Post
    Are we now sleuthing CW's father?
    I was wondering the same thing, but I don't think we are allowed to do this.

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    02/26/2014 Correspondence Filed
    LETTER FILED BY MEDIA COORDINATOR, GENE HARTLEY, REQUESTING PERMISSION TO COVER 3/19 AND 4/23, WITH A STILL CAMERA AND VIDEO CAMERA. jlf

    Video Appearance Approved
    WAIVER OF PERSONAL APPEARANCE AND CONSENT TO APPEAR BY LIVE TELEVISION MONITOR. /ACT
    Filed By: CRAIG MICHAEL WOOD
    According to courts.mo.gov/casenet

    Court filings yesterday. When visiting site you must enter CMW's name to search.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueyes
    I would love to know what the criminal profilers make of the way he murdered her since it is highly unusual.
    (snipped by me)

    IMO this guy could be a sadist. Poor little Hailey was bound before her death; at least at the wrists. This was a total power trip for him. He controlled her, took her to his own home, tied her up and after potentially sexual assault, killed her in cold blood.

    this guy is a monster.

    Also, you said you wondered what profiler's thought about this guy because of the gun. I wonder what they think about his age and also I'd like to know if Hailey fit some "type" for him. Very young but also quite tall and extremely slender. Does this match any missings would be my first question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jggordo View Post
    02/26/2014 Correspondence Filed
    LETTER FILED BY MEDIA COORDINATOR, GENE HARTLEY, REQUESTING PERMISSION TO COVER 3/19 AND 4/23, WITH A STILL CAMERA AND VIDEO CAMERA. jlf

    Video Appearance Approved
    WAIVER OF PERSONAL APPEARANCE AND CONSENT TO APPEAR BY LIVE TELEVISION MONITOR. /ACT
    Filed By: CRAIG MICHAEL WOOD
    According to courts.mo.gov/casenet

    Court filings yesterday. When visiting site you must enter CMW's name to search.
    Is there a good possibility of this request being granted? Has the prosecution indicated they will be seeking the death penalty yet? I don't know if this is a death penalty state. I hope at the very least life without parole is on the table. Sorry if this has already been asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psyquestor View Post
    (snipped by me)

    IMO this guy could be a sadist. Poor little Hailey was bound before her death; at least at the wrists. This was a total power trip for him. He controlled her, took her to his own home, tied her up and after potentially sexual assault, killed her in cold blood.

    this guy is a monster.

    Also, you said you wondered what profiler's thought about this guy because of the gun. I wonder what they think about his age and also I'd like to know if Hailey fit some "type" for him. Very young but also quite tall and extremely slender. Does this match any missings would be my first question.

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    I have also thought about that psyquestor.

    Joseph Duncan was a sadist pedophile and after horrifically abusing Dylan Greone everyday for 6 straight weeks he murdered him with a shotgun. Daily Dylan was hung from the rafters of the old cabin and raped repeatedly and tortured in front of his little sister.. That case still haunts me to this day and JED video taped all of it including when he raped Dylan's sister, Shasta.

    I am sure the profilers are looking into his background and history to see if he has done other violent acts against children that may not have ended in murder. I just don't believe this is his first violent act against children. To me pedophiles are wired this way from an early age just like JED was at the age of 8 years old and it doesn't just start when a pedophile reaches 45 either. IMO
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    Yes, Missouri is a DP state. I don't know how they deal with media in the courtrooms. It is probably left up to the judge.

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    Well this guy is a candidate.


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