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    2nd Plea Deal Offered to Raven Abaroa Today! 3/11/14-


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    Omg


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    What do you think some of the reasons for another plea deal could be? The first one was for 19-24 years. this one does not say how many years the state would ask for.
    All I can think of is maybe the length of time since the murder plus the cost of another trial,
    Do you think the state thinks their case is weak? RA only got a mistrial by 1 vote the first trial.
    I guess we will know soon enough.I know NC is set for new trials for B.Cooper, M.Peterson and possibly J.Young.

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    No, I don't think their case is weak at all. RA was ALMOST convicted at his first trial.....only 1 juror held out.

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    Pretrial motions 10:00 AM today (if not preempted by plea deal).

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    Raven just took an Alford plea for voluntary manslaughter. 95-123 months in prison, including time served.

    He's laughing during the hearing. Makes me want to vomit.

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    As I'm hearing Charlene recount all of the damning evidence against Raven, I find myself shaking my head that the one juror could not convict at the previous trial. I recognize we're not hearing from the defense, but IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT HE IS GUILTY. My goodness.

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    Oh no! He took an Alford plea for voluntary manslaughter! No justice! So sad...

    Under an Alford plea, Raven Abaroa will be sentenced to 95 to 123 months in prison for the crime.

    http://www.wral.com/abaroa-pleads-gu...ath-/13471779/

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    I guess Raven didn't want to roll the dice, does he get credit for time served?
    How much time will he actually do?

    I am in shock.


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    Jaw Dropped Today

    What I read online said he could be out as soon as 2018. (Credit for time served, etc.) Amounting to 8 to 10 years. I feel so sad for Janet's family.

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    Question

    Not to sound idiotic but can anyone explain to me what 'Voluntary Manslaughter' is? I've heard of 'Involuntary Manslaughter' (accidental death) but I don't understand the former.

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    I started this thread without knowing there was another older one, sorry!
    I just want to ask anyone why the state offered a plea to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallingStars View Post
    Not to sound idiotic but can anyone explain to me what 'Voluntary Manslaughter' is? I've heard of 'Involuntary Manslaughter' (accidental death) but I don't understand the former.
    Voluntary manslaughter means more in the heat of passion.

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    I know only a little about this case, for the ones who have followed it closely do you think he will kill again and why? TIA

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