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    Maybe I can help to clarify some questions and/or irritations resp. false information


    A short part of the timeline

    * shortly after 03:00 a.m. – OP called female neighbour [probably wife of Stander, lawyer, friend], said she should come immediately
    http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-cour...7#.UXLG2qK-2So

    * 03.08 a.m. – OP’s close friend Christo Menelaou woke with a start. He’d heard what sounded like three thunderclaps. He lay in bed waiting for the rain to start. Almost an hour later [~ 04.10 a.m.] he went to the bathroom. His window looks out onto OP’s house. “His house used to be in pitch darkness at night, except for one light that was always on,” Christo (34) says. But that night all the lights were on and there were blue and red lights flashing outside the house.
    http://drum.co.za/2013/04/26/hes-heartbroken/

    * 03.17 a.m. - Reeva died by the fatal head shot (according to Nel + Roux)

    * 03.19 a.m. - OP called Stander [according to OP's DT]

    * 03.20 a.m. - OP called Netcare [according to OP's DT]

    * 03.20 a.m. – Stander and his wife (?) (called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.) came to the house

    * few minutes later – Dr Stipp arrived

    * 03.42 a.m. - paramedics and first police officers arrived
    [There was a video with CCTV footage of Silverwood estate that showed the arrival of paramedics and police. Sadly I not noted the link of the video but I noted the time that was shown.]

    * 03.55 a.m. - OP called friend Justin Divaris. Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] talked with Justin Divaris on phone

    * 04:00 a.m. - Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] called coach Peet Van Zyl by OP’s phone [“I picked up the phone and saw it was Oscar's number and thought it was him phoning me.”] and told him he have to rush to come to OP’s house

    * ??? a.m. – Peet Van Zyl called Ampie Louw, OP’s athletic coach

    * 04.00 a.m. - further police officers arrived

    * 04.15 a.m. - Hilton Botha arrived

    * ??? a.m. – Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw arrived
    [at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]

    * 04.30 a.m. - Justin Divaris + girlfriend Samantha Greyvenstein arrived
    [at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]

    All mentioned people except Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw are at the state's witness list.


    Phone calls

    [from the bail hearing]

    Nel: Did this accused phone police?
    Botha: No.
    Nel: Phone security?
    Botha: No.
    Nel: Phone [for an] ambulance?
    Botha: No.

    Botha: I saw a firearm on the shower mat. Collected 2 cellphones and two more Blackberries. The two iPhones were not used that morning. The Blackberries hadn’t been used in months.


    Different reports about the time OP's brother and lawyer (Kenny Oldwage) arrived

    "Botha testified that shortly after he arrived at the crime scene, Pistorius' brother Carl and a lawyer arrived at the house with a locksmith. They wanted to open a safe in the kitchen. "They said they were looking for documents and a memory stick with account numbers of offshore accounts.

    Botha: We asked to have the safes open. There was a specific safe in the kitchen but no key, so they brought a locksmith to open it.

    Nel: Were [Pistorius’s defence] keen to get to the memory stick? Botha: Yes, it seemed as though they were. Were looking until they found it.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1268575
    Earlier, Det Botha said he arrived at the house at 04:15 and found Ms Steenkamp lying dead on the ground floor. She was wearing white shorts and a black vest, he said and was covered in towels.

    A lawyer and Mr Pistorius's brother were already at the scene.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21514428

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    Timeline Thread ***NO DISCUSSION***

    Note: I made corrections and additions




    Note: This is a work in progress... please add or make corrections...I could not locate a time for the entries marked with ???. I have added minor4th notes denoted with an asterisk


    Oscar-Pistorius-Timeline-to-tragedy

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-tragedy.html

    February 14, 2013

    6 p.m.- Reeva entered the complex alone in her Mini Cooper.
    Pistorius entered the complex shortly thereafter. He was on his phone.

    1:56 a.m.- neighbor Estelle van der Merwe:
    “I woke up the morning at 1:56am to sounds of someone talking loudly and fighting,’’ she told the court. “It lasted about an hour.’’

    http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/...-1226845099657

    *2:00 a.m. - Werwe heard what sounded like a woman's voice on one side of an argument

    2:20 a.m.- Baba stated in court that at 2.20 am everything seemed normal during a security check.

    3:00a.m-
    Michell Burger, a lecturer at the University of Pretoria who lived 170m away on a neighbouring estate to Pistorius, said she was woken at 3am "from a woman's terrible screams".
    She said the woman "yelled for help" and then she heard a man screaming for help three times, before shots were fired.
    She said that there was a gap between the first shot and the next three, describing it as "bang (pause), bang bang bang."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-by-shots.html

    *3:00 - 3:15 a.m. -Stipp was woken up by 3 "shots" and got up and went to balcony to see where it was coming from

    *3:00 - 3:17 a.m. - Stipp reports he heard a woman "screaming or yelling" 2 or 3 times

    3:15a.m- Dr Stipp made a call at 3.15 am and spoke with Baba for 16 seconds. Stipp reported the shots and asked security to come and see where the shots were coming from.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html

    *Burger and Johnson awoke to the sounds of loud screams they identified as coming from a female

    *3:15- 3:16 a.m. - Burger and Johnson report they heard yelling "help, help, help"

    3:16 a.m.-
    According to Roux, the call Johnson made at 3:16 am on Valentines Day last year to a security company was followed three minutes later by Pistorius's call to his complex's chairperson, Johan Stander.
    http://www.sabc.co.za/news/f1/79d469...utiny-20140306

    *3:17 a.m. – Stipp heard "2 or 3" additional "shots"

    *3:17 a.m. Burger and Johnson heard "3 or 4" sounds they believe to be gunshots

    *After 3:17 a.m. - Werwe heard "loud crying" that she initially thought was a woman, but her husband identified the voice as Oscar Pistorius

    ????-
    Baba sent a buggy to Dr Stipp's house, and by then Dr Stipp was standing on the balcony. At that stage Dr Stipp pointed directly at Mr Pistorius's house. Pistorius's house was directly visible from Dr Stipp's house and Baba says the lights in Mr Pistorius's house were on so he immediately drove there.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html

    *3:20 a.m. - Oscar calls Netcare and reports that they advised him to take Reeva to the hospital and not wait for the ambulance

    ???- Baba spoke to Pistorius on the phone and Pistorius said, "Security, everything is fine".

    3:24a.m.-
    Roux says that Baba's phone call with Pistorius was 3.24 am- questioning the timings of the conversations.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Note: quoting Zinn because the post is very descriptive of the events that followed…

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinn View Post
    Something similar occurred when Roux questioned Baba. I just listened to Baba's testimony myself because I didn't want to rely strictly on the tweets from courtroom reporters. It's my understanding that Baba and one or two additional guards were inside a truck in front of OP's house when Baba initiated calls to OP. Baba said he "began making calls" to OP when they arrived at his house, but I don't know how many calls. He claims to have initiated the call that became their first conversation, during which OP allegedly said everything was fine. The other guard inside the vehicle (the driver) was able to hear both sides of the conversation and Baba commented to him that something was not right. It sounded to me like Baba asked OP to come downstairs to reassure them everything was fine and that's when the conversation ended. Baba didn't say exactly how the first call ended (which person initiated hanging up) but when referring to the second call he said "the line went dead again", so perhaps OP hung up both times. I don't know. OP then called Baba, cried, and then the line went dead. Roux claims phone records indicate OP placed the first call at 3:21 and Baba's call was placed at 3:24. Baba disputed this (not the exact time of the call, but the fact that OP called him first) and Roux said he would provide documentation of this on Monday. To me, it sounded like Roux was strictly referring to calls made to/from the landline security number which would not be relevant if Baba called from a mobile phone while in his vehicle. But Roux claims Baba's initial statement said he called OP at 3:24. It seems phone records will be very important in this case.

    Unrelated to phone calls, but also of interest, is that Baba said he and two other guards saw Stander and his daughter arrive, parking half in the street. Stander and his daughter ran toward OP's house and the three guards ran after them. Stander's daughter opened the door and went inside. Stander stood in the doorway. The guards stood behind Stander. All this coincided with OP walking down the stairs holding Reeva. Baba was shocked and only snapped out of it when Stander's daughter shouted "Oscar!" Baba testified that OP became aware of five people (the Standers and three guards) present in and around the doorway as he was descending the stairs with Reeva. Baba said after snapping out of his shock, he was focused on observing with OP was wearing and that is when Stander asked Baba to go call police and ambulance. The driver of the security truck (Jacob?) was asked to make sure no vehicles were parked at OP's.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ???- The estate manager Mr Stander arrived at Mr Pistorius's house with his daughter.

    ???- Baba didn't enter Pistorius's house because Stander was standing at door. Lights were on in the house. Baba left to call the police and paramedics.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html
    ???-
    Stipp arrived and said Pistorius had his fingers in Steenkamp's mouth in an attempt to revive her breathing but it soon became clear that she was "mortally" wounded.
    http://www.sabc.co.za/news/f1/439cce...-body-20140306


    *3:28 a.m. Both Stander and Stipp are at Oscar's house; Stander calls ambulance from Stipp's phone

    Other sources:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226845099657

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    *Updated to include additional information that has been presented in trial. Note that a timeline above indicates that both Roux and Nel agree that Reeva was killed at 3:17 by gunshots, but that is not Roux's version - Roux believes the sounds at 3:17 were sounds of the cricket bat bashing the door.

    Oscar-Pistorius-Timeline-to-tragedy

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-tragedy.html

    February 14, 2013

    6 p.m.- Reeva entered the complex alone in her Mini Cooper.
    Pistorius entered the complex shortly thereafter. He was on his phone.

    1:56 a.m.- Merwe heard what sounded like a woman's voice on one side of an argument, she heard it on and off for about an hour

    Estelle van der Merwe:
    “I woke up the morning at 1:56am to sounds of someone talking loudly and fighting,’’ she told the court. “It lasted about an hour.’’
    http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/...-1226845099657

    2:20 a.m.- Baba stated in court that at 2.20 am everything seemed normal during a security check.

    3:00a.m- Burger woken by screams:

    Michell Burger, a lecturer at the University of Pretoria who lived 170m away on a neighbouring estate to Pistorius, said she was woken at 3am "from a woman's terrible screams".
    She said the woman "yelled for help" and then she heard a man screaming for help three times, before shots were fired.
    She said that there was a gap between the first shot and the next three, describing it as "bang (pause), bang bang bang."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-by-shots.html

    *3:00 - 3:15 a.m. -Stipp was woken up by 3 "shots" and got up and went to balcony to see where it was coming from

    3:15:51 a.m.- Dr Stipp made a call at 3:15:51 am and spoke with Baba for 16 seconds. Stipp reported the shots and asked security to come and see where the shots were coming from. (time verified by phone records reviewed during Stipp's testimony)

    *3:15 - 3:16 a.m. - Stipp reports he heard a woman "screaming or yelling" 2 or 3 times

    *Burger and Johnson awoke to the sounds of loud screams they identified as coming from a female

    *3:15- 3:16 a.m. - Burger and Johnson report they heard yelling "help, help, help" yelled by a male and a female

    3:16 a.m.- - Johnson calls security

    According to Roux, the call Johnson made at 3:16 am on Valentines Day last year to a security company was followed three minutes later by Pistorius's call to his complex's chairperson, Johan Stander.
    http://www.sabc.co.za/news/f1/79d469...utiny-20140306

    *3:17 a.m. – Stipp heard "2 or 3" additional "shots"

    *3:17 a.m. Burger and Johnson heard "3 or 4" sounds they believe to be gunshots

    *After 3:17 a.m. - Merwe heard "loud crying" that she initially thought was a woman, but her husband identified the voice as Oscar Pistorius

    3:19 a.m. - Oscar calls Stander:

    According to Roux, the call Johnson made at 3:16 am on Valentines Day last year to a security company was followed three minutes later by Pistorius's call to his complex's chairperson, Johan Stander.
    http://www.sabc.co.za/news/f1/79d469...utiny-20140306

    *3:20 a.m. - Oscar calls Netcare and reports that they advised him to take Reeva to the hospital and not wait for the ambulance

    3:21:33 AM - Oscar calls security mobile phone, Baba answers; call lasts 9 seconds, only crying is heard (evidenced by phone records reviewed in court)

    3:22:05 AM - Baba called Oscar who said "I'm Ok" or "Security, everything is fine" (there is a discrepancy between Baba's initial written report and his court testimony) - time of the phone call is evidenced by phone records reviewed in court

    3:24 -3:26 a.m. Baba arrives at Stander's house and by 3:26, Baba, Stipp and Stander are all present at Oscar's house (Baba claims he called Oscar at 3:24 outside Oscar's house, but the phone records reviewed in court indicate differently)

    Baba sent a buggy to Dr Stipp's house, and by then Dr Stipp was standing on the balcony. At that stage Dr Stipp pointed directly at Mr Pistorius's house. Pistorius's house was directly visible from Dr Stipp's house and Baba says the lights in Mr Pistorius's house were on so he immediately drove there.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html

    Stipp arrived and said Pistorius had his fingers in Steenkamp's mouth in an attempt to revive her breathing but it soon became clear that she was "mortally" wounded.
    http://www.sabc.co.za/news/f1/439cce...-body-20140306

    3:27 a.m. - Stipp's phone dialed security but no connection is made (According to Roux, while reviewing the phone records in court with Stipp) [My theory - this was an accidental dial when Stander took Stipp's phone, maybe he accidentally hit "redial" before he called the ambulance]

    *3:28 a.m. - Both Stander and Stipp are at Oscar's house; Stander calls ambulance from Stipp's phone

    3:42 a.m.- Ambulance arrives; Col Van Resberg arrived shortly after

    4:15 a.m.- Botha arrives

    Other sources:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226845099657

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    Photo Timeline - Van Staden

    UPDATED: Van Staden's timeline according to photo metadata and testimony.

    Entries marked with ** are times after which crime scene had been disturbed and evidence moved about.



    FEBRUARY 14

    04:50 a.m. - Straden arrived, Botha told him what happened and took him through the scene (first time)

    * Straden then asked Both to clear scene

    * Straden then went to garage

    * Straden conducts PR test on OP's arms

    5:12 a.m. Straden takes 4 photos of OP in garage (Photos #155-158)


    5:15 a.m. - Went to front and photographed entrance (photo #2)


    5:16 a.m. - 5:43 a.m. -takes photographs of scene inside, including downstairs and Reeva's injuries, (photos #3 -13; #132 - 155)


    5:45 a.m - 5:50 a.m - Staden photographs crime scene going up he stairs (photos #14 - #27)


    5:51 a.m. - 5:55 a.m. - Staden photographs upstairs hallway and area outside OP bedroom (photos #27 - #39)


    5:55 a.m.- 5:56 a.m. - pictures of the contents of display case and wide angle view of display case (photos #51m #53, #54)


    5:58 a.m. - Staden starts taking photographs in bedroom (photo #55)

    * Photo # 56 -fan, duvet, ipad, grey t shirt 5:58

    * Photo # 68 - duvet, jeans, black fan unplugged

    * Photos #72,#73 - bedroom, sandal is seen, overnight bag on couch

    * Photo #76 -spots on wall- above left headboard


    5:59 a.m. - Photo of bedroom looking toward bathroom (photo #60, #77)


    6:00 a.m - Staden photographs the overnight bag on the couch (photo #78) and the thermometer switched off (photo #79)


    6:01 a.m. - photograph of watches in case with blood smear (photo #67)


    6:01 a.m. - 6:06 a.m. - photos hallway to bathroom, cartridge case, view into bathroom from hallway, close up of cartridge case, blood drops (photos #80-87)


    6:06 a.m. - 6:10 a.m. - Bathroom pics, panels, cricket bat right side up, cartridges, towels, splinters (photos #88,89, 90, 91, 92,, 97 -103, 110-112,119-121 )


    6:10 am - 6:13 am - Photos of toilet cubicle (photos #122-128)


    6:14 a.m. - towel, gun, phone (photo #104)


    6:16 a.m. door with panels out (photo #113)


    **6:17 a.m. - close up of gun (photo #105)


    **6:18 a.m. - close up, front and back of black cell phone (photos #106, 107)


    **6:19 a.m. - white cell phone (towels have been moved at this point- VS put them in the bathtub) Botha took the cell phones (photos #108, 109)


    **6:21 a.m. - bedside table with a print magazine, possibly another phone, and holster on the table pushed against the back wall (photos #74, #75)


    ** 6:21 a.m. - cones and evidence markers in hallway where first cartridge found (photo #174)


    **6:23 a.m. - evidence markers and tape measures held next to cartridges (photos #175-178)


    **6:24 a.m. - bathroom, showing cone evidence marker and bat, towels have been moved, crime scene has been moved around (photo #179)

    *photo #180 - bathroom with cones, cricket bat changed, no cell phone (no time)

    *photo #181 - toilet cubicle - moved items to access evidence, magazine rack (no time)

    *photo #186 - toilet, no magazine rack (no time), 3 fragments (b4)


    6:27 a.m. - 6:32 a.m. - photographs of the outside of OP house (photos #164-171)


    **6:45 am - 6:50 am - photos of panels, door and damage in bathroom (photos # 94-96, 118)


    **7:01 a.m - 7:02 a.m. - photos of door panels, door, broken tiles in bathroom and toilet cubicle (photos #93, 114-117)


    **7:04 am - 7:05 am - other side of cricket bat with signatures and close up (photos #198, 199)


    **7:19 a.m. - close up of gun, slide pulled back (by fingerprints expert) and bullet from chamber of gun (photos #193, 195)


    **7:34 a.m. - 7:36 a.m. -duvet spread out by VS (photos #69 -71)


    7:39 - 7:40 a.m. - Staden takes 5 photos OP's prostheses (photos #159 - 163)


    **7:43 a.m. - another view of sunglasses display case (photo #52)


    **7:50 a.m. - 2 photos of "fragments" in the bathroom (after evidence has been moved about) (photos #129, 130)


    **7:59 a.m. - stereo in OP bedroom (photo #62)


    **7:59 a.m. -8:00 a.m. - various photos of OP's effects (medicine maybe?) (photos #63 -66)


    **8:02 a.m. - photo magazine and ammo pouch, found by Van Staden in the drawer on the right hand bedside table (photos #57 -#59)


    **12:06 pm -12:07 pm – Photos of damage to OP’s bedroom door (photos #41, #49, #50)



    FEBRUARY 15

    **15:31 – 15:32 (3:31 pm – 3:32 pm) – photos of bedroom door with holes and damage (photos #40, #42 - #48)



    MARCH 08

    ** blood spatter and measurements (marked as taken on 2/15) (photos #364, 366, 371, 373, 379, 391)
    Last edited by minor4th; 03-18-2014 at 12:23 AM.

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    13 FEBRUARY 2013 – 12:00 to 18:00

    12:12:05 – Whatsapp
    REEVA : “ Baba I hope u don’t mind but I came back to the house to work a bit and do some washing. It will help me a lot to get stuff done and relieve some stress. I’ll go through to Jhb at like 3 ”

    Reeva was stressed and had to get some work done (perhaps her speech). Being alone without distractions was her intended goal to get ‘stuff done’. Reeva tells Oscar her plan : leave around 3PM and return home to Joburg.

    Although Reeva’s message reads like she is already at Oscar’s house, she is NOT. From the detailed billing info, Reeva arrived at Silverwoods between 12:45 and 13:02:52

    13:02:52 – Oscar calls Reeva (4 m. 1 s.) – he whines about the ‘$h!tty thing’ that happened to him until 13:06:53

    13:10:48 – Whatsapp
    REEVA : “ It’s a difficult thing to try to console you baba because it’s a $h!tty thing and you’re a nice guy. I guess these things happen and we can just hope they work out for the best. You are an amazing person with so many blessings and you are more than cared for. Your health and future monetary blessings far outweigh this hurdle I can promise you that “

    13:40:54 – RS 5353 – Silverlakes tower – GPRS (2 h. 2 m. 20 s.) – Uninterrupted until 15:43:14

    In the detailed billing of all 3 phones in this case, all GPRS connections last from between 17 seconds and 5 minutes. Oscar’s house is not fitted with a landline internet connection or Wi-Fi : all Internet communications are relayed via cellular service provider Vodacom.

    There are ONLY 2 uninterrupted GPRS connections that last for hours; both of them are on Reeva’s 5353 phone; both of them are made from Oscar’s house; both of them are made when Oscar is either absent or otherwise occupied.

    Reeva stated she wanted to work from Oscar’s house : she initiates a Personal Hotspot on her iPhone to allow Oscar’s MacBook to connect with the Internet so she can access and work on her files that are saved in her iCloud.

    15:21:40 – Whatsapp – Reply to the 13:10:48 message from Reeva
    OSCAR : “ Thank you so much my angel. you don’t have to my angel. Stay tonight if you would like. “

    Although Reeva has already stated that she will be going home to Joburg at 3PM and it’s now 20 minutes past 3PM, Oscar hints that she could stay the night at his house.

    15:21:52 – Whatsapp
    OSCAR : “ I’m just finishing off at Ryan “

    15:23:09 – Whatsapp
    REEVA : “ Thank you baba. Let me know if you’d like to spend time with M or Carl. I’m sure you maybe feel like some family tonight. “

    Not wanting to tell him ‘No’, Reeva diplomatically suggests that Oscar should seek comfort and consolation from family members (Aimee or Carl). Reeva obviously gets that Oscar would like her to stay but she can’t accommodate him tonight.

    15:41:54 – Oscar calls Reeva (1 m. 33 s.) – Conversation until 15:43:27

    One can clearly infer the subject of this conversation from Reeva’s Whatsapp message that follows in 2.5 minutes at 15:46:10. Oscar is being insistent about having Reeva spend the evening with him.

    15:43:14 – RS 5353 – Silverlakes tower – GPRSReeva terminates the Personal Hotspot on her phone

    15:46:10 – Whatsapp
    REEVA : “ Angel I’m going to go home at like 6. Please stay and do whatever it was you were gonna do “

    Reeva re-conveys her firm intent to go home to Joburg and pleads with Oscar for him to forget her for tonight. Her tone reads like a loving but exasperated mother that has to deny her son something he wants right away.

    Reeva has to give a speech the very next morning in Joburg. The drive from Silverwoods to Joburg is a 1-hour drive without traffic. Driving in the evening, Reeva would be going in the opposite direction of weekday rush-hour traffic. In the morning, Reeva would be going in the same direction of weekday rush-hour traffic.

    15:54:27 – Oscar calls Reeva (1 m. 53 s.) – 8 minutes after Reeva reaffirmed that she did not want to stay. Oscar manages to convince Reeva to stay that evening.

    17:12:57 – Oscar calls Reeva (1 m. 3 s.) – One can infer from Oscar’s tower connections that follow and distances from his house that he called Reeva to tell her he is leaving Joburg and heading home.

    17:30:46 – OP 0020 – Midrand_Gardens tower – GPRS – Oscar is approximately one third of the way between Joburg and Silverwoods : 45.8 km from his house

    17:35:02 – OP 0020 – Vodaworld tower – GPRS – Oscar is approximately 41.0 km from his house

    17:36:51 – OP 0020 – Mustek_George tower – Carl Pistorius calls Oscar (5 m. 7 s.)
    Oscar is approximately 39.7 km from his house

    17:42 – OP 4949 – Sam_Rand tower – GPRS – Oscar is approximately 34.6 km from his house

    17:44:54 – RS 5353 – Shere_AH tower – Reeva calls Oscar (2 m. 24 s.)
    17:44:54 – OP 0020 – The_Mint tower – Oscar is approximately 32.4 km from his house

    Reeva is no longer at Oscar’s house or in Silverwoods. Reeva had spent the previous night (12th) at Oscar’s house and had also planned on spending the following night (14th) at Oscar’s house to cook him Valentine’s Day dinner. Reeva had not planned on staying at Oscar’s house that evening but was insisted upon to do so by Oscar. Therefore, Reeva has nothing on hand to prepare dinner.

    There are ONLY 2 places one can buy food produce like chicken and vegetables around Silverwoods. The closest place is a large supermarket called Pick ‘N Pay (a type of Walmart) located 2.8 km or 6 minutes away by car from Oscar’s house. The second is Trade Center (a type of Costco) located 4.4 km or 10 minutes. Both places have ample available parking.

    The Pick ’N Save is part of the suburb Shere A.H. whereas the Trade Center is not. Therefore it is more than likely that Reeva went shopping at the Pick ‘N Save and that she placed the phone call to Oscar while in range of the Shere_AH tower. Probably to ask Oscar what else he could eat (because of training regimen) other than what they had eaten yesterday evening and other than what she had already planned for tomorrows Valentine’s Day dinner.

    17:50 – OP 4949 – Flying_Saucer tower – GPRS – Oscar is approximately 18.6 km from his house

    17:53 – OP 4949 – Erasmuskloof tower – GPRS – Oscar is approximately 13.8 km from his house

    18:00 – Reeva arrives at Silverwoods security gate according to Pieter Baba and security gate video footage

    18:07:22 – OP 0020 – Wapadrand tower – Oscar calls 5937 (8 m. 42 s.) – Conversation until 18:16:04
    Oscar is approximately 5.4 km from his house.

    Pieter Baba said Oscar was talking on his phone when he arrived at the Silverwoods security gate. One can safely infer that Oscar ended his call with 5937 after crossing the security gates but before he arrived home. That would place Oscar’s time of arrival at his house shortly after 18:16:04.
    Last edited by AJ_DS; 06-18-2014 at 06:38 PM.

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    13 FEBRUARY 2013 – 18:00 to 21:00

    18:16:04 – OP 0020 – Oscar finishes his call with 5937 – Oscar’s time of arrival at his house is shortly after 18:16:04

    Between 18:16:04 and 18:29, Oscar is greeted by Reeva, he chats a bit with her, he goes upstairs to the bedroom, gets out of his day-time clothes, takes off his prosthetics, draws a bath, grabs his iPad and slips into the bath.

    18:29 – OP iPad3 – First time a web page was accessed on this iPad that day
    Oscar types ‘youj!zz’ in Google search engine.
    Oscar selects the free pornographic video web site for mobile devices ‘m.youj!zz.com’
    Oscar selects the video ‘videos/5/1/1/6/’ which starts playing on the iPad

    Between 18:29 and 18:47:59, Oscar finishes to relieve himself, gets out of the tub, dries himself off, puts on his prosthetics, puts on some relax clothing and joins Reeva downstairs who is busy with dinner preparations.

    18:47:59 – OP 0020 – Oscar calls Carl Pistorius (56 s.)

    19:00 – OP 4949 – Access to Messaging Service Center – Oscar checks his business phone for messages.

    Carice Stander said that there was an iPhone charging cable in the kitchen and Sam Taylor said that Oscar always charged his business phone in the kitchen.

    Oscar’s 4949 business phone will have no incoming or outgoing voice calls, no incoming or outgoing SMS messages, no GPRS connections, no incoming or outgoing activity whatsoever on the network from 19:00 on 13 February until 6:00 on 14 February when incoming SMS and voice calls will indicate ‘No Cell Id in ticket’ meaning the phone is turned off.

    Oscar turns off and plugs his 4949 phone in the kitchen for charging as he always did. Between 19:00 and 20:04, Reeva and Oscar sit down and eat dinner, after which Reeva clears the table and cleans up in the kitchen.

    20:04:00 – RS 5353 – GPRS (17 s.)

    Nel was very insistent on this GPRS connection and indicated to Judge Masipa to look in the Whatsapp data : I believe we haven’t heard the last about this GPRS connection. Reference : Oscar Pistorius Trial: Tuesday, 25 March 2014, Session 1 – starting at 17:53

    20:04:17 – RS 5353 – GPRS (11 h. 23 m. 49 s.) – Uninterrupted until 7:28:06 on 14 February

    Reeva initiates a Personal Hotspot on her iPhone to allow Oscar’s MacBook to connect with the Internet so she can access and work on her files that are saved in her iCloud.

    Perhaps Reeva needed to work further on her speech that she is giving the next morning.

    One could infer that Reeva never finished working, closed the Personal Hotspot and went to bed… she was still working when she was interrupted by the argument that escalated with Oscar and therefore did not have the opportunity to shut down the Personal Hotspot on her iPhone.

    20:25:07 – OP 0020 – Oscar calls his cousin Graham Binge (29 m. 17 s.)
    Oscar is chatting with his cousin until 20:54:24.

    21:00 – OP 0020 – GPRS – 2 GPRS connections occur between 20:25:07 and 21:00

    21:19 – OP iPad3 – Last time a web page was accessed on this iPad that day
    Google Images search for a Morgan Aeromax car

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    PROLOGUE of TIMELINE – 21:00 to 2:00

    Samantha Taylor (ST)

    – ST said Oscar always left his 4949 business phone charging in the kitchen.
    – ST said that when Oscar went to bed he took off his prosthetic and put them next to him.
    – ST said that when Oscar went to bed he put his gun either on top of the bedside table or on top of his prosthetics.
    – ST said Oscar always kept his 0020 personal phone with him at all times, even when in bed or when going to bathroom.
    – ST said OP used his 0020 phone 4 to 5 times every night in bed before going to sleep.
    – ST said Oscar charged his 0020 phone in his bedroom.
    – ST said Oscar was very jumpy at night about noises in his house.
    – ST said that on 2 to 3 occasions OP woke her up during the night and asked her if she had heard a noise.
    – ST said that Oscar took his gun, got out of bed and investigated those noises.
    – ST said Oscar got up in the morning at around 5AM.


    Reeva Steenkamp (RS)

    – RS wrote Oscar on 11 February : "Baby can I cook for you on Thursday? What can you eat this week?"

    RS was planning to cook Oscar a Valentine's Day dinner and she needed to know what he could eat that week… a clear indication that Oscar was indeed in a period of training where he had a very specific weekly diet.


    Professor Gert Saayman (PrGS)

    – PrGS said that Reeva ate approximately 2 hours prior to her death.

    According to all the evidence, Reeva died approximately around 3:15AM… so her last meal was around 1:15AM

    For one to eat, 3 conditions must generally be met : i) One must be awake ii) One must be hungry iii) One must have access to food like in a kitchen


    Estelle van der Merwe (EVDM)

    – EVDM woke up and heard sounds of woman involved in an argument, a woman talking in a loud voice.
    – EVDM looked over at the clock it was 1:56AM.
    – EVDM went to the bedroom windows which looks out onto Farm Inn believing the sound originated from there.
    – EVDM couldn’t see anything… she couldn’t determine from which direction that voice was coming from.
    – EVDM said this argument wasn’t continuous; it started and stopped many times with varying intervals.
    – EVDM couldn’t hear the other party involved in this argument.
    – EVDM said she couldn’t make out the language or what the woman was saying.
    – EVDM was sure it was a woman’s voice because of the pitch and “movements” in the voice.
    – EVDM says this argument latest for about 1 hour and irritated her.
    – EVDM went a second time to the bedroom windows but still couldn’t see anything.
    – EVDM didn’t go to the bedroom balcony because she didn’t want to wake her husband.
    – EVDM placed a pillow over her head in hopes of falling back asleep.

    Around 3AM…

    – EVDM heard 4 loud bangs around 3:00AM.
    – EVDM’s husband woke up from those bangs and said to EVDM that those bangs were gunshots.
    – EVDM didn’t hear the woman’s voice before the shooting.
    – Mr. VDM went to the bedroom windows to see what was happening.
    – Mr. VDM couldn’t see anything and got back into bed.
    – EVDM said it was complete silence after the 4 gunshots.
    – EVDM didn’t hear any other bangs, noises or any screams

    Some time after...

    – EVDM and her husband heard a commotion some time after.
    – Mr. VDM called security to know what was happening.
    – EVDM then heard someone crying out loudly.
    – EVDM asked her husband who was crying and he responded that he thought it was Oscar.

    21 February 2014 between 2AM and 3AM (sound tests)…

    – EVDM woke up from 2 male voices talking loudly as if they were involved in a fight.
    – EVDM went to the bedroom windows believing the sound originated from there…but couldn’t see anything.
    – EVDM then went to the bedroom balcony where she saw that the lights were on inside Oscar’s house.
    – EVDM saw 2 men outside arguing in front of Oscar’s house next to a white SUV.
    – EVDM did not hear a male and a female in Oscar’s bedroom screaming as loud as they could.

    EVDM could not hear the screaming tests on 21 February : those were conducted in Oscar's bedroom… confirming why she did not hear the screaming on 14 February : she cannot hear noises that originate from the back of Oscar's house (except the gunshots).

    EDVM did hear the arguing tests on 21 February : those were done in front of Oscar's house… she went first to the bedroom windows that faces Farm Inn believing the sound originated from there… EXACTLY as she had done twice on 14 February and same as her husband had done once… again she saw nothing… she then went to the bedroom balcony doors that faces Oscar's house… there she saw exactly what she was hearing : 2 men arguing.

    EDVM also heard what she thought was a woman crying on 14 February… This was heard "some time after" the gunshots and moments after the "commotion".

    What was this commotion ? The ONLY thing that could be perceived as a commotion in that timeline was all the cars and individuals in front of Oscar's house : i) Arrival of Pieter Baba and Jacob Mohave in the security buggy ii) Arrival of Carice and Johan Stander in the mini-Cooper iii) Departure of Pieter Baba and Jacob Mohave in the security buggy iv) Arrival of Dr. Johan Stipp in his car.

    What followed immediately after that commotion ? Oscar carried and laid Reeva's body at the bottom of the stairs where he cried and prayed loudly.

    Where are these stairs located ? The stairs land in Oscar's kitchen which is situated at the front of Oscar's house… in fact, Oscar's kitchen projects forward from the main building, much further forward than the front door and the garage doors… the kitchen is at the very front of Oscar's house and is the closest to EDVM's house.

    When coming down the stairs, you are facing the kitchen which is 2-3 meters in front of you, the dining-room is 2-3 meters immediately to your right, the front door of the house is 2-3 meters immediately to your left, the living-room is 2-3 meters behind the stairs.

    Photo taken from the kitchen entrance looking at the stairs
    Photo taken from the dining-room entrance looking at the bottom stairs, the front door and the kitchen
    Photo taken from the dining-room entrance looking at the dining-room
    Photo taken from the front door looking at the living-room and part of the stairs

    Why could EVDM hear Oscar's crying loudly but she could not clearly make out the argument between 2AM and 3AM ? Oscar's front door was wide open when he was crying and praying at the bottom of the stairs, as stated by Dr. Stipp and Johan Stander.

    This confirms and proves 2 things :

    1. EDVM can in fact hear what is happening at Oscar's house as long as it is happening towards the front of his house.

    2. EDVM can in fact identify where the sounds are coming from : the sounds that originate from the front of Oscar's house are heard in EDVM's bedroom as coming from Farm Inn.

    ------- THAT would indicate that the arguing EDVM heard between 2AM and 3AM was in fact coming from Oscar's house and that the persons arguing were NOT in the back of Oscar's house like the bedroom BUT towards the front of the house like the kitchen.
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    Can I pull this forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pisto_lius View Post
    Maybe I can help to clarify some questions and/or irritations resp. false information


    A short part of the timeline

    * shortly after 03:00 a.m. – OP called female neighbour [probably wife of Stander, lawyer, friend], said she should come immediately
    http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-cour...7#.UXLG2qK-2So

    * 03.08 a.m. – OP’s close friend Christo Menelaou woke with a start. He’d heard what sounded like three thunderclaps. He lay in bed waiting for the rain to start. Almost an hour later [~ 04.10 a.m.] he went to the bathroom. His window looks out onto OP’s house. “His house used to be in pitch darkness at night, except for one light that was always on,” Christo (34) says. But that night all the lights were on and there were blue and red lights flashing outside the house.
    http://drum.co.za/2013/04/26/hes-heartbroken/

    * 03.17 a.m. - Reeva died by the fatal head shot (according to Nel + Roux)

    * 03.19 a.m. - OP called Stander [according to OP's DT]

    * 03.20 a.m. - OP called Netcare [according to OP's DT]

    * 03.20 a.m. – Stander and his wife (?) (called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.) came to the house

    * few minutes later – Dr Stipp arrived

    * 03.42 a.m. - paramedics and first police officers arrived
    [There was a video with CCTV footage of Silverwood estate that showed the arrival of paramedics and police. Sadly I not noted the link of the video but I noted the time that was shown.]

    * 03.55 a.m. - OP called friend Justin Divaris. Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] talked with Justin Divaris on phone

    * 04:00 a.m. - Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] called coach Peet Van Zyl by OP’s phone [“I picked up the phone and saw it was Oscar's number and thought it was him phoning me.”] and told him he have to rush to come to OP’s house

    * ??? a.m. – Peet Van Zyl called Ampie Louw, OP’s athletic coach

    * 04.00 a.m. - further police officers arrived

    * 04.15 a.m. - Hilton Botha arrived

    * ??? a.m. – Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw arrived
    [at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]

    * 04.30 a.m. - Justin Divaris + girlfriend Samantha Greyvenstein arrived
    [at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]

    All mentioned people except Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw are at the state's witness list.


    Phone calls

    [from the bail hearing]

    Nel: Did this accused phone police?
    Botha: No.
    Nel: Phone security?
    Botha: No.
    Nel: Phone [for an] ambulance?
    Botha: No.

    Botha: I saw a firearm on the shower mat. Collected 2 cellphones and two more Blackberries. The two iPhones were not used that morning. The Blackberries hadn’t been used in months.


    Different reports about the time OP's brother and lawyer (Kenny Oldwage) arrived





    "When the storm has swept by, the wicked are gone, but the righteous stand firm forever." -Proverbs 10:25

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    PRETORIA - The much-anticipated judgment in the Oscar Pistorius trial has started with Judge Thokozile Masipa declaring that she used an undisputed chronology of events to work out what happened on the night Oscar Pistorius shot his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.

    Working through technical evidence and details, she laid out the events of the night of the shooting:

    * At 2.20am security on patrol noted nothing untoward at the home of the accused.

    * At between 3.12am and 3.14am the first shots were heard.

    * At 3.14am to 3.15am the accused was heard shouting for help and there was screaming.

    * At 3.15am the accused seen walking in bathroom.

    * At 3.16am neighbour Dr Johan Stipp called security.

    * At 3.16am neighbour Charl Johnson called security.

    * At 3.16am neighbour Michael Nhlengethwa called security twice – the first call did not go through.

    * At 3.17am Stipp tried to call 10111.

    * At 3.17am the cricket bat sounds were heard.

    * At 3.19am Pistorius called estate manager Johan Stander.

    * At 3.20am the accused called 911.

    * At 3.21am the accused called security for 9 seconds.

    * At 3.22am security guard Pieter Baba called the accused.

    * At 3.22am Baba arrived at the house of the accused at much the same time Stander arrived accompanied by his daughter Carice Viljoen.

    * At 3.23am Stipp arrived at the house of the accused.

    * 3.26am Stander called for an ambulance in the presence of Stipp.

    * At 3.50am the ambulance arrived at the gate.

    http://www.enca.com/oscar-trial-judg...urns-time-line



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