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    Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #9

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    Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board.

    The airline said in a statement that flight MH370 disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

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    Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #9

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    Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyGirl View Post
    Leaked footage shows Captain Zaharie Ahmed Shah and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid being searched before they boarded

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...e-live-3251098
    I would be interested in having a body-language expert look at this video, short as it is.

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    Cutting to the chase is it not possible that in fact the pilot was attempting to attract the attention of the radar station by his sharp left turn after the communications ceased with the tower because at that point the plane had been commandeered?

    It would have been great if the Malaysian air force had scrambled a couple of planes for a look see.

    Here are two links that appeared today criticizing the lack of action

    http://time.com/26883/malaysian-air-...rcepted-mh370/

    the second link shows the radar station to the south and west of the last ''known arc'' as well

    http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/mh3...r-capabilities
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    Pilot on CNN Disputes Hijacking Theory, Suggests Catastrophic Event

    Incapacitation or something else that could prevent the crew from controlling the plane -- fire, collision, explosive depressurization -- could also be indicated, which wouldn't necessarily mean the cockpit was breached by anyone...

    I would urge that we not jump to conclusions based on inconclusive evidence. The evidence we have may be "consistent with deliberate acts," but it is also consistent with other explanations as well.
    He argues that the known flight profile could be consistent with a lengthy "auto-pilot off" uncontrolled phase after an initial catastrophic event.
    At the very least, this could fit the timeline:
    1:19 -- (No problems): "Alright, good night"
    1:21 -- Catastrophic event disables crew and many systems.
    Transponder/ACARS knocked out. Turns and altitude changes uncontrolled.

    I hate to say it, but if ACARS/transponder went out after the co-pilot's final words (and very probably at the same instant), the CNN pilot is right and it's still quite possible this was an accident and not a hijacking.

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    New thread already. Wow. 9 threads and no news lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ToutCa View Post
    Pilot on CNN Disputes Hijacking Theory, Suggests Catastrophic Event



    He argues that the known flight profile could be consistent with a lengthy "auto-pilot off" uncontrolled phase after an initial catastrophic event.
    At the very least, this could fit the timeline:
    1:19 -- (No problems): "Alright, good night"
    1:21 -- Catastrophic event disables crew and many systems.
    Transponder/ACARS knocked out. Turns and altitude changes uncontrolled.

    I hate to say it, but if ACARS/transponder went out after the co-pilot's final words (and very probably at the same instant), the CNN pilot is right and it's still quite possible this was an accident and not a hijacking.
    It may well be...but as I am reading more about the lack of action on part of the radar personnel I can't help but get really angry that no action was taken to follow the plane and check them out. If an accident did occur perhaps an interceptor might have witnessed the accident and could have saved some lives and provided some answers for the anguished family members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToutCa View Post
    it's still quite possible this was an accident and not a hijacking.
    They are saying that the sharp turn back was preprogrammed into the flight plan! That means it was planned ahead of time which doesn't make sense if this was an accident.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03...investigation/

    Plus this:
    Authorities had said Sunday that the words were heard around 1:30 a.m. local time, nearly a half hour after the plane’s data recorder was turned off and 10 minutes after its transponder was deactivated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newone View Post
    Cutting to the chase is it not possible that in fact the pilot was attempting to attract the attention of the radar station by his sharp left turn after the communications ceased with the tower because at that point the plane had been commandeered?

    It would have been great if the Malaysian air force had scrambled a couple of planes for a look see.

    Here are two links that appeared today criticizing the lack of action

    http://time.com/26883/malaysian-air-...rcepted-mh370/

    the second link shows the radar station to the south and west of the last ''known arc'' as well

    http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/mh3...r-capabilities
    What I can't figure out is how the hijackers were so confident that the Malaysian military would NOT check out this "blip" in their radar? Because the whole thing seems to have been planned out so well, so I would think they would have planned that part out very well, instead of just taking a "chance." A chance that Malaysia would just ignore the blip. A chance that they and Vietnam ATC wouldn't notice the flight was "missing" on radar early on and start the search for the flight much earlier.
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    The Federal Aviation Administration said it is aware of Teso's claims, but said the hacking technique does not pose a threat on real flights because it does not work on certified flight hardware.
    "The described technique cannot engage or control the aircraft's autopilot system using the (Flight Management System) or prevent a pilot from overriding the autopilot," the FAA said. "Therefore, a hacker cannot obtain 'full control of an aircraft' as the technology consultant has claimed."
    Teso says he developed SIMON in a way that makes it work only in virtual environments, not on actual aircraft.
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    Interesting poll results so far:

    It was hijacked and crashed into water 52 34.67%
    It was hijacked and crashed into land 10 6.67%
    It blew up due to mechanical failure 1 0.67%
    It has landed safely on land 62 41.33%
    It flew into a time warp 2 1.33%
    Alien Abduction 4 2.67%
    I don't know 18 12.00%
    It was hijacked by a pack of evil emus 7 4.67%
    It is a narcicist and decided to employ an antiquated investigative strategy of silence 0 0%
    Hijacked and hopefully if the passengers are already dead, it crashed into water. 3 2.00%
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    Re: looking at the camera, I don't know about the rest of you but I look at cameras all the time when going about my normal life in a big city (where there are lots of them in public transportation facilities especially). They're usually noticeable on the ceilings/ walls/ corners and when looking up I find my eye catching on those things (similar with signs, funny looking pipes, all sorts of things). I can completely imagine looking up during a pat down and having my eye catch on a camera...

    I realize with so little to go on it's tempting to overanalyze every detail (and that's sort of the point of this whole thread), I just wanted to propose that the camera thing is probably not that significant...

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