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    Quote Originally Posted by nells View Post
    I have not been following the case. Can someone tell me why he made a back up of his hard drive? What was on it? Thanks.
    Four months before the murder Raven was caught embezzling from the company he and Janet worked at, Eurosports. Law enforcement confiscated his lap top and his work computer which helped to implicate him. Janet was not involved in the embezzlement and didn't find out about it until he was arrested.

    He planned and premeditated Janet's murder. If you delete things OFF your hard drive. It can still be found by an IT forensic investigator. The only way to make sure any incriminating evidence is gone for good is to delete the files and destroy the hard drive. There was still files on the hard drive he wanted, financial documents, personal information, etc. Raven took off two days of work prior to the murder. The day before the murder he deleted any files he didn't want to copy to disk, he then backed up the files onto a disk he wanted to keep. He then destroyed that hard drive. He was arrested just four months prior and he knew that his laptop would be checked out thoroughly by LE after he called 911 after he killed Janet.

    Raven was a planner. Websleuthers since the beginning of 2005 found Raven belonged to many online sites and he was a perfectionist and a planner. He touted the Franklin Covey Planning methods. It is my belief as well as others that have sleuthed this case since the beginning that Raven planned and premeditated the murder. He knew enough to know that LE will take and search the laptop.

    During the first trial we learned that the day of the murder Raven was taking his TV and putting it into his vehicle. A church member stopped by to do a "welfare check" on the couple. They were getting aid from their church to help to help pay child care costs, they were getting their groceries through the church and they were getting help with their rent.

    It was testified to, in court, that the church member asked Raven about the TV and Raven said oh it doesn't work. The church member said he would take it off his hands. The Church Member did try the TV and found the TV worked JUST FINE. (I believe Raven was going to say they were robbed and the TV was stolen also). He told police the ONLY thing missing from the home was the laptop and his knife collection. He couldn't say the TV was missing because he got caught putting it into his SUV.

    On April 25, 2005 Raven made this post - this post was found on the disk too:

    "Monday, April 25, 2005

    If I were a bird... Wait, I am!
    The way in which I was raised is a direct reflection of the person I am today. In my early childhood I began to develop strengths that would help me in both my personal and professional life. I learned how to adapt to change, become outgoing and personable, and become aggressive in all my endeavors. The same experiences which made me strong also created weakness. As I was forced to grow up quickly I began to overlook my education, second guess myself, and loose focus easily. The strengths and weaknesses I developed in my childhood have played a role in my personal and professional life. As I grow in wisdom I am making efforts to improve upon my weaknesses while developing my strengths.

    While under the age of five years old I saw my parents go through a very difficult divorce. My mother was left to care for 4 children under the age of six. As young as 7 years old I remember having the desire to help ease her pains. I decided that if I could grow up fast then my mom would have less to worry about and I could help her accomplish what she needed to have an orderly house. I began by being comfortable with change. During all my childhood I was constantly challenged with change. Our routine regularly changed with our financial situation, our home, and our surroundings.

    As a child I often didn’t know what the next meal would bring. It seemed one month we were dining out every night and the next month we were receiving food assistance from our church. I remember being able to buy $400 worth of clothes for the beginning of my school year from Mervyns during my 3rd grade year. However, in the 6th grade I learned to maximize my budget of $100 by shopping at TJ Maxx. This uncertainly could have caused me to have insecurities or embarrassments about my situation. Instead, I became accustomed to change and comfortable adapting to my surroundings. As I have grown up I have found that my ability to adapt to change has become a valuable strength in my life. By adapting to change in my personal life I have been able to not stress about change in atmosphere. When times have been good I’ve dined in the finest of restaurants and when times have been tough I’ve been able to utilize coupons and eating in to stay within my budget. The same can be said in my professional life. During 2001 my company budget was downsized from a $3k monthly spending budget to $750. Most of my team members had built their sales around spending the $3k with golf outings, dinner parties and other activities to secure business. While I did some of the same activities I found it very easy to limit my spending and during our next quarterly sales meeting I was the only team member to stay within budget.

    In addition to financial challenges in my childhood, I was challenged with making new friends more often than most children. Having lived in 10 different houses and attending 10 different schools by the time I was seventeen I had no choice but to adapt or be lost in the shuffle. The constant change in schools made me quite the extravert. Because time was precious and I didn’t know what was around the corner I didn’t have time to be shy. I had to be energetic and outgoing to attract friends and relationships. I have used this strength to benefit my personal life as well as my professional life. In my personal life I have never been afraid to make new acquaintances and in turn have many friends. At work I have been successful at sales because I am very personable and can relate to others very well.

    One of the strengths my mother possessed was aggressiveness and the unwillingness to accept circumstances as final. Although times were hard, my mother always instilled in us the desire to aggressively seek after our dreams. If we wanted something bad enough, all we had to do was work hard for it. When I was 15 years old I wanted to be viewed as the #1 goalie in the state. At the regional ODP (Olympic Development Program) camp the national coach of our age group evaluated my skills and said I struggled at communicating with my team and distributing the ball. Over the next year I woke up every morning before school and practiced 100 punts and 100 goal kicks. In the afternoon I threw the ball up against a wall 100 times. At practice I spent more time listening to how my coach communicated to the team so I could do the same from the field. In only one year I was the top goalie in Utah (Starting for our ODP team, of course, my buddy Darius wasn't playing ODP this year and he was my only competition I think) and went on to achieve success as an ODP player and a college athlete. The same aggressiveness to reach perfection in my youth has strengthened me in my professional endeavors. I recall my first time interviewing with companies in DC. I was offered positions at 6 of the 7 places I interviewed. Most of the managers directly commented on how they admired my aggressiveness to get in the door and that is what attracted them to me. This aggressiveness also allows me to not give up when others might throw in the towel!

    The same circumstances which strengthened my personality also gave way to weakness in my life. While I was adapting to change I felt like I was reinventing the wheel too often. The constant change of surroundings leads me to loose focus easily and this has proven to be a weakness in my life. Early in my career I found myself changing goals every few months which lead to changing jobs often and consequently I was often moving. While I changed schools a lot in my youth I never had a real foundation in education. Additionally, my mom was successful and undereducated, which strengthened my belief that education was not important. However, I now find that my lack of education leaves me narrow minded and can limit my interaction with co-workers and friends. Finally, because I was moving so much as a child I did have some insecurity. One insecurity was second guessing myself. Without constant friendships I was always afraid to ask for help and in that frame of thought I often wondered if what I was doing was right. In my personal and professional life my biggest weakness is uncertainty because through second-guessing myself I do not take a lot of risk and to be successful in my line of work you must be willing to take risks.

    A strength which is evident in this writing is my ability to recognize weakness. Through this recognition of weakness I am able to focus on changing behaviors to better prepare myself for a successful future. I do not like to spend time reflecting on weakness, but as I acknowledge what my weaknesses are I also identify ways to improve on them. To help me keep focused I use Franklin Covey software to organize my projects, goals, tasks, and calendar down to the simplest of steps. I have also committed to continued learning. I have read many management and leadership books and started participating in group discussions at work and at home to broaden my knowledge and strengthen my decision making. These two things will allow me to not second guess myself and feel adequately educated. While my childhood brought on these weaknesses, I feel like my ability to adapt to change will allow me to overcome my weaknesses as I grow and mature in my personal and professional life.
    In summary, I feel my strengths and weaknesses have been molded from the way I was raised. Through the events of my childhood I was able to develop strengths that not only helped me survive my adolescence, but have proven to be a great attribute to the development of my personal and professional life. I also understand that I am able to change my weaknesses through my ability to adapt and that by doing so I will achieve success.

    posted by Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun at 11:15 AM"

    By Raven Abaroa posted the day before Janet was murdered and backed up on disk the day before Janet was murdered.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminatrixator View Post
    On Friday, March 21, 2014 ABC's 20/20 Primetime Crime with John Quinones is doing a show about the murder of Janet Marie Christiansen and her unborn child committed by Raven Abaroa.

    They aired a show called "Murder Mystery: What Happened to Janet Abaroa?" in 2009. This will be a follow-up to that.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/murd...ory?id=8408459

    No matter how emphatically Raven Abaroa stated he didn't receive a fair trial or how many times he states he didn't kill Janet, or even how Karen Abaroa Bolton wants to spin it and state that it's Janet's family fault for Raven being arrested, the facts are the facts and IMO the facts are Raven premeditated the murder of Janet and their unborn child.


    Just watched this last night. Surprised at how well it was done, considering ti was 20/20, inferior to dateline and 48h. The juror they got at the end... to give on sentence... was he saying that the jury as whole though to let a guilty man go, than jail an innocent, or was that the perception of the one hold out? Couldn't they get more information from him to air - pathetic.

    I think they should have hammered hom what a disgrace this was - where was the ADA?? Would have loved to get her thoughts... this si just wrong. Would never have happened like this in a bio state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gajonka View Post
    Just watched this last night. Surprised at how well it was done, considering ti was 20/20, inferior to dateline and 48h. The juror they got at the end... to give on sentence... was he saying that the jury as whole though to let a guilty man go, than jail an innocent, or was that the perception of the one hold out? Couldn't they get more information from him to air - pathetic.

    I think they should have hammered hom what a disgrace this was - where was the ADA?? Would have loved to get her thoughts... this si just wrong. Would never have happened like this in a bio state.
    The juror that spoke out during the 20/20 interview was explaining what the lone holdout stated, which he would rather set a guilty man free than put an innocent man to jail and from my understanding the juror that voted NG is one of those that doesn't understand what circumstantial evidence is.

    I have been told that most of the jurors were quite upset and in tears over the mistrial.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    the juror that voted NG is one of those that doesn't understand what circumstantial evidence is.
    It is frightening how many people misunderstand or completely ignore the value of circumstantial evidence. I think this should be a question asked during voir dire because I've seen a lot of people proclaim they could never convict someone over "just circumstantial evidence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminatrixator View Post
    http://tearsforjanet.com/index.htm

    There is the announcement on the show at Janet's family tribute site.
    TY Terminatrix - you are an angel... no, not a fallen angel, they types Hollywood keep painting as being the saviors of humanity when in reality they are just a metaphor for satan ( see NOAH).

    Any way, you have been great with elucidating the facts of this case. An abomination what has happened here. We can only hope Raven gets Dahmerred in the clinky clink - but as you see with his "post" he is mr erxtrovert friendly guy. What a pos he is.

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    Thanks Gajonka, I'm sure Raven's mother would have another word for me as would Raven, but I keep it real. There are too many people in this world that are afraid of Raven.

    There is so much information out there about people that are close to him that were too afraid to come forward out of fear of him or his mother it's appalling, several people have written to me over the years regarding it.

    I just can't imagine how anyone could have had any doubt in their mind. People that knew all the crimes Raven has committed since before Janet was murdered and those crimes he committed after he killed her that didn't come forward should be ashamed of themselves. Thankfully there are people that have come forward, and I was told even more reached out since the last trial. I believe he would have been found guilty and served life if they retried it, and darn it anyhow. Those that didn't come forward or those few that lied for him, well when he gets out of jail and harms another person, it's on them.

    If anyone has questions that they feel wasn't answered I will be happy to answer it to the best of my ability.

    Gajonka I'm not any sort of angel but I do feel completely justified with everything I have posted regarding Raven and the murder of Janet Marie and her unborn child at the hands of Raven Abaroa.

    I'm glad he's here even if it's only for 4 years and I am pretty sure once he's out he'll find a way to get himself back in there again because Raven will never change his ways.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    I try to stay away from this thread, b/c the plea bargain is so frustrating to accept. After years and years of awaiting for an arrest,and then something like this happens. I can't remember a case where all the pieces fit so perfectly, and yet we are looking at a man who will regain his freedom in a few short years. This case begged for justice for Janet and failed. So deeply sorry.

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    Saturday Night on 20/20 they will be airing a two hour special on Janet's case. I am interested to see what else they add to their footage. If only one of these damn shows would actually focus on the real important information, like the fact that Raven took his TWO HUGE dogs, and took their Crates out of the house, and put them in a shed and put both dogs in their crates out in the shed before he murdered Janet and their unborn child. Kaiden would be without his mother if he stopped his madness, Janet would not be dead right now if he would have just divorced her. It was the proper action. He obviously has heard how "godlike" he was and decided to play God, Judge, Jury and Executioner when he killed his pregnant wife Janet. I hope this episode goes into more detail so when this murderer is free people will not buy into the bs that someone else did it. He got a slap in the wrist. The guy steals gets a slap on the wrist, he steals again, another slap on the wrist, he murders, slap on the wrist...obviously evil can prevail.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    I hate agreeing with you....not because of what you said but because it is the truth. I will be watching. And hoping for what they will show
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    Just wanted to state that ABC 20/20 on Saturday night is going to do a TWO Hour Show with new interviews etc. (I'm sure there will be parts of the old 20/20 show). I am looking forward to seeing this.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton


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    It's on now.

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    I honestly think they did a better job from beginning to end with this show. It laid it out better. I love the fact they discussed the TWO LARGE dogs that were locked in crates and put into a shed, which has NEVER happened before. They didn't touch on the fingerprint though which was testified to at trial was a "latent" print. Meaning...someone painted the closet door and their finger print dried in the paint....then whatever years later when Janet was murdered, when it was dusted that finger print that was under the paint showed up in the dried paint. That wasn't left by someone at the time of the murder it was there when someone that owned the home previously painted the closet door. Also, the shoe print was testified at some point that it was a first responder, and the fact that the shoes on the front porch (with the 401) near by where not tested. The foot print was next to the body pointed to her body....and no blood trailed out of that room. Actually there was a few blood drops in the bathroom. The thing they didn't show in this show was that Raven had picked up Kaiden UPSIDE DOWN and gotten a bloody hand print on kaiden, and the only way to do that was to pick up Kaiden upside down. That didn't air during this show. But they did a great job.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    Hi terminatrixator!

    I'm going to have to try and watch the special that aired on 8/9 online. I did catch the other one on 20/20 and it brought back so many memories of us all "stalking" Raven and waiting for justice to come for Janet. Thank you for keeping this thread alive. I know you were the one who brought this case to light for many of us!

    I am thankful Vanessa dodged this bullet. I remember the open letter and wondered if she'd ever read it. It was so sincere! She is a beautiful woman and I hate to think of what would have happened to her. We probably would have had to start a thread for her too.

    I still think of Janet often. She won't be forgotten!

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