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    Canada - Jeffrey Boucher, 52, Whitby ON, 13 Jan 2014 - #6

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    Jeffrey Boucher is a 52 year old teacher at Bowmanville High School and an avid runner who has gone missing. He was last seen on Monday morning January, 13th, 2014 to go on a run. He never returned home. Normally, Boucher's daily runs go on for about 10 kilometers (6.2 miles), but he does not keep to the same route. When he failed to return home, his wife contacted authorities, and a search was then ensued. Boucher is a white male, 6', he weighs 180 lbs, he has graying brown hair with brown eyes.

    Please contact the Durham regional police at 1-888-579-1520.

    http://www.citynews.ca/2014/01/13/po...ng-whitby-man/

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    REVISED TIMELINE MARCH 17, 2014

    SUMMARY OF CHANGES/ADDITIONS:

    More details re BB looking for JB Sunday night; witness is believed to be the person walking their dog; added November and December drug busts in Whitby; shoe found Tuesday and LE told KB about shoe on Thursday; found shoe is Nike with lacelocks and laced like JB would have done; possible matching shoe box found by LE at residence; KB spoke with media at lakefront; production company approached KB; BB search for JB Monday morning and was back by 9:00 am; KB convo with neighbour Monday morning; DRPS received missing person call at 8:30 am; March 17 search at waterfront and MSM report that LE believe shoe found last week was in water and washed ashore; shoe was found about 10’ from water; added detail of BB and neighbours checking waterfront afternoon of Jan 13; add helicopter search March 14

    ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP !!

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    Nov 2013 sometime this month JB had surgery for receding gums; his BHS teacher page has entry on Nov 8 “On-call dentist”; he didn’t take Motrin after the 3rd day

    Nov 14 Drug bust after sweep at Whitby high schools

    Dec 2013 Ski trip to Mount St. Louis this month

    Dec 13 another drug bust in Whitby;

    Dec-20 JB and BB left for Collingwood

    Dec-22 Pizza Hut, Collingwood, 29.81 VISA transaction

    Dec-22 Loblaws, Collingwood, 68.72 VISA transaction

    Dec-23 Esso, Collingwood 26.77 VISA transaction

    Dec-24 Walmart Supercenter, Collingwood 19.83 VISA transaction

    Dec-24 Loblaws, Collingwood 21.17 VISA transaction

    Dec-25 KB and K left for Cuba

    Dec-26 Esso, Collingwood 24.41 VISA transaction

    Dec 27 East Side Marios, Collingwood (JB and BB) 32.36 VISA transaction

    Dec-31 Esso, Collingwood 30.92 VISA transaction

    Jan-01 KB and K returned to Whitby from Cuba

    Jan-02 Walmart Supercenter, Collingwood 36.81 VISA transaction

    Jan-05 Refuel at No Frills, Angus 37.14 VISA transaction

    Jan-05 JB and BB returned to Whitby from Collingwood

    Jan-06 First day of school after Christmas break. It was a "Snow Day" but JB went to work.

    Jan-06 Petrocan, Whitby 16.97 VISA transaction

    Jan-07 regular classes resumed after Jan 6 Snow Day

    Jan-07 Ontario Hyundai, 4.50 VISA transaction (oil changes free except for environmental tax?)

    Jan-07 Real Canadian Superstore 9.46 VISA transaction

    Jan-08 Great Clips 15.56 VISA transaction

    Jan-08 JB got haircut at Great Clips, (usual place/usual frequency); also recently got new glasses due to 24 month benefit period;

    Jan-09 Petrocan-1006 Brock St S., Whitby 34.92 VISA transaction

    Jan-09 to Jan-15 No entries made in JB's course outline for his Entrepreneur course. All other dates are filled and it's unclear if JB left these blank, if he removed any actual entries, or if they were removed by someone else for some reason. KB thinks they must have been doing an end of term assignment

    Jan-10 Petrocan-3930 Brock St N., Whitby 11.04 VISA transaction

    Jan-10 Real Canadian Superstore, Whitby 8.04 VISA transaction (addy is 200 Taunton Rd, Whitby)

    Jan-10 A sum of money was found in JB's file cabinet at work on this date. KB says the money was in a malfunctioning file cabinet which was opened by the caretaker while JB was out of the classroom. JB did not tell KB about the incident.

    Jan-11 Jeff did not run Saturday morning

    Jan-11 5:00 AM JB and BB left in the car (Hyundai) to drive to Blue Mountain where they are both ski instructors; at times they taught near each other; they probably saw each other about 3 times a day. They spent the evening and night at JB's parents' chalet which is about 35km from Collingwood

    Jan-12 Jeff did not run Sunday morning

    Jan-12 AM KB went to church;

    Jan-12 PM KB says she went shopping Sunday afternoon and arranged the new food in the fridge that afternoon, and does not recall moving a lunch bag

    Jan-12 3:30 PM KB says that BB called approx 3:30 to 4:00 PM to say she and JB were leaving Blue Mountain to return home to Whitby

    Jan-12 4:00 PM Approx time that JB and BB would have left Blue Mountain to arrive home in Whitby at 6:30 PM

    Jan-12 Petrocan-1755 Dundas St. Whitby, 34.44 VISA transaction. KB says BB called from this location to say they were 5 min from home.

    Jan-12 6:30 PM JB and BB arrived home in Whitby from Blue Mountain; approx 2.5 hour drive (this would put them having left Blue Mountain approx 4:00 pm)

    Jan-12 6:45 to 7:15PM KB says she believes JB was on his computer for a short time between about 6:45 and 7:15

    Jan-12 7:00 PM Approx time, KB was watching TV and JB was in dining room on his laptop. They sat together for a bit on the couch discussing the houses for sale that KB had researched in Collingwood, and then they went on the computer together to look at the potential houses, to get an idea of what their 'dream house' might look like when they did move up to Collingwood. JB asked KB to email him the links to the place they currently liked best. KB says she emailed JB the Collingwood cottage listings to JB at 8:21 pm.

    Jan-12 7:20 PM This is the time KB believes the email from the Principal was sent; she thinks JB was just getting off his laptop around this time; the email was asking JB to stop by the Principal’s office before lunch on Monday, again saying not to worry. The Principal says this email was never read by Jeff.

    Jan-12 8:00 PM to 9:00 PM BB was tutoring a student at the dining room table; KB says the students BB tutors are mostly referrals from her guidance department at school, 1 student KB suggested, and 1 neighbour. KB still does not know which student BB was tutoring but it was not the one KB suggested or the neighbour. All KB knows is that student lives by Sinclair Secondary School; KB says LE has never answered the questions she has asked them wrt this student and KB is not comfortable asking BB questions regarding JB’s disappearance; KB says student was definitely gone by the time BB went to look for JB

    Jan-12 8:21 PM KB advises she sent JB the emails re houses at 8:21 pm as he walked out of the office upstairs

    Jan-12 8:30 PM MB called the house to speak with BB. KB was upstairs on the computer and picked up the phone and called to JB downstairs that his mom was on the phone; JB told MB that BB couldn't come to phone as she was tutoring; he also said he was preparing for upcoming student exams. MB says JB normally went to bed at 10:00 pm; KB advises they normally went to bed between 10:30 and 11:00 pm and that JB would not wake up until 5:00 am

    Jan-12 8:50 PM JB gives KB kiss on cheek and says he's going for a run because it's such a nice night. KB warns him about icy sidewalks and advises other runners are running on the roads. JB normally changes in the laundry room which is attached to the garage, then goes out through the garage. There is a side door to the garage which JB would sometimes leave unlocked and he would re-enter through that door. KB says that the morning of JB’s disappearance, that side garage door was locked. Had JB returned, he would have had to enter through the front door to the house. The front door of the house has keyless entry (number keypad). When leaving the house, you just press the lock button on the pad.

    Jan-12 9:05 PM MB states she called BB (this would be in addition to her call at 8:30 when she spoke with JB). KB doesn’t recall MB calling back and thinks BB was supposed to call MB back re MB having found USB charger under the bed.

    Jan-12 9:00 PM KB says that BB is sure JB left through the garage door before 9:00 pm

    Jan-12 9:05 PM Student left and, according to KB, was picked up by a parent (KB has been unable to verify whether "parent" or otherwise has been verified by LE).

    Jan-12 9:05 PM After student left, KB doesn’t know what BB was doing but KB stayed on the computer for a bit, watched TV, and wondered where JB was by 10:15.

    Jan-12 10:30 PM KB says she and JB always go into the hot tub at 10:15 prior to bedtime between 10:30 and 11:00 PM. KB went to lie down and BB says she will take the van and go look for JB. KB says she was not outside at all on Sunday night.

    Jan-12 10:34 PM BB tweets her dad "went running 3 hours ago and he isn't home yet. Anyone seen a 50 year old man lying on a sidewalk?" (Tweet was deleted, possibly Monday, because BB said "it was irrelevant" and "people were asking a lot of questions); temp about 2C, clear, and light rain was forecast for the following day.

    Jan-12 10:38 PM BB left in the van to look for her Dad. KB says she knows this because she had looked at the alarm by the bed. BB drove around some streets looking, then on her way home as she was driving north on Whitburn, she decided to go see a friend on Woodhaven. This is when she saw JB running. BB never visited the friend.

    Jan-12 10:50 PM BB returned home and said JB was located running about 200m from home (later changed to 900m); KB says JB was just crossing over from Cochrane Street to Briargreen Court as BB was driving along Woodhaven Cres. BB had a chat with JB through the van window; KB says there was a witness who was walking a dog and heard convo between JB/BB; KB says that witness has been interviewed by LE; BB said JB "was completely normal” when he got home that night. She says he didn’t go back out again and she was up late and would have noticed. There was almost a full moon; Environment Canada historical weather data for Oshawa Jan 12 shows 2.3C to 3.0C, precip. 0, snow accumulation 3cm.

    Jan-12 10:55 PM Approx time JB arrived home, apparently having run up to Heber Down and back. His favorite places are Heber Down and Cullen Park

    Jan-12 10:55 to 11:10 PM KB says JB would have gone in hot tub (no swimsuit); she says JB knows she wouldn’t like him to come to bed sweaty

    Jan-12 11:10 PM JB came to bed. KB was in bed almost asleep. He woke her to tell her about the nice weather; he was asleep in a few minutes but KB couldn't get back to sleep. KB says when she got up to take 1/2 Sleepeze at 1:00 am, Jeff was definitely in bed, sleeping. KB says she only had 1 or 2 Sleepeze left and that, other than advil and the motrin for his gums, there were no other meds in the house. JB was against taking pills, even refusing vitamins

    Jan-13 1:00 AM KB took a Sleepeze or 1/2 a Sleepeze. She heard BB downstairs and said BB was up until about 1:00 am or 1:30 am

    Jan-13 3:30 AM KB says that LE advised her the plows were out at this hour

    Jan-13 5:00 AM or 5:30 to 6:00 JB normally wakes up automatically at this time without an alarm clock

    Note: KB advises JB’s morning routine as:

    Go down to his bathroom, and take out his mouth guard (which is there), eat a banana, get ready for run, run, come home about 6:50 am, drink water, have shower, go to kitchen in underwear, eat toast with a ton of peanut butter, warm up his spoon-sized shredded wheat with hot water, add milk, eat. Come upstairs to get his ironed shirt from the closet, kiss me goodbye in bed (this happens at 7:10-7:20), goes back downstairs, puts his long pants and shoes on and leaves.

    Jan-13 5:15 to 5:20 AM Approx time JS said he almost backed into a jogger as he was backing out on his street. JS saw the back of the jogger who was wearing all black and fit JB’s height and build. He said he had reported this info to LE (unknown when). JS posted this info to KB on the Missing JB page Feb 14. KB says JS goes to their church, and that JS said the jogger was running east on Bourbon Place.

    Jan-13 5:30 AM KB says that LE advised her plows were also out at this hour and that the drivers were interviewed by LE. Today is also recycling pickup north of Taunton.

    Jan-13 Time unknown, Esther thinks she saw JB running northbound on the road early Monday morning when she was driving south on Brock St., south of Taunton Rd. It was still dark and Esther was startled when the man in dark clothing suddenly appeared on the road. She said she could only see his white face.

    Jan-13 5:32 AM cctv video shows jogger who appears to be running in the direction of Gilchrist Court. KB and BB viewed video and say it is not JB.

    Jan-13 6:00 AM The time JB would normally go for his morning run, but nobody saw him leave. No cereal bowl or indication he ate breakfast, and compost was not checked for banana peel. KB says he didn't kiss her goodbye. It is believed he was wearing his wedding band, wire silver framed glasses (wire on top, no wire on bottom), a navy blue or black Mountain Equipment Co-op running suit; small MP3 pinned to his shirt/jacket; no Nike chip in shoes, no hat, no gloves, no water bottle or sweat band; KB initially advised that both vehicles were in the driveway, but later said JB’s car was in the garage overnite (the van in the driveway); his keys and wallet found at home (KB advises she and JB have never owned cell phones); his passport is at home. It is unknown for sure which shoes he was wearing but KB advises shoe size is mens 11 and she guesses they may be an older, slightly roughed up pair of Asics, dark colour uppers maybe with orange on the sides. The regular Timex watch he normally wore while running watch was found at home in his work shoe; KB says his mouthguard was in its case in his downstairs bathroom and was dry by Monday nite when she checked; JB is said to run 10-15 km (2005 record shows 10km in 43 mins); historical weather data shows Jan 13 as 2.3C to 6.0C, precip .6 cm, snow accumulation 2cm. Locals say weather was clear, no fog.

    Jan-13 7:15 AM KB woke up. KB says BB was still in her room but got up a few minutes later

    Jan-13 7:15 AM BB got up around this time

    Jan-13 7:30 AM BB said she was eating breakfast when KB came in and asked if she’d seen JB

    Jan-13 7:30 AM KB and BB notice JB is not home yet.

    Jan-13 7:48 AM Sunrise in Whitby, ON

    Jan-13 8:00 AM Approx time KB saw the car in the garage when she checked to see if JB’s bikes were there.

    Jan-13 8:00 AM KB says she called JB’s school

    Jan-13 8:00 AM Prior to KB calling her own school, BB had left in car (later clarified to be the van) to search around block/neighbourhood

    Jan-13 8:00 AM Approx time KB says she called her own school

    Jan-13 8:20 AM Approx 8:20 to 8:30 KB advises she was outside at this time talking to their neighbour (a paramedic) who was at his car. KB asked him what she should do first – phone hospitals, police/911. The neighbour then phoned a couple of paramedic stations to see if there were reports of a hurt runner. He then told KB to call police and then check out hospitals. KB recalls that as she was speaking with the neighbour, BB was still out and came back before 9:00 am after which it was decided she and BB would check Cullen Park and Heber Down.

    Jan-13 8:30 AM KB advised and early MSM reports are that DRPS received a call to report JB missing at 8:30. KB said an officer arrived right away; LE took JB's laptop and had a look at KB's computer which JB sometimes used. They were able to access JB's Hotmail account because the family knew the password. KB says her email to JB regarding the Collingwood houses was unread. KB advises both vehicles were searched but no forensics done because not criminal investigation; K9s brought to the residence today but unable to get a good track.

    Jan-13 9:00 AM KB says BB was back home by this time after having searched for JB around the neighbourhood

    Jan-13 9:00 to 11:30 AM KB and BB searched trails through Heber Down (later changed to include Cullen Park, but said not neighbourhood). Says she and BB came home and crashed after searching.

    Jan-13 10:30 am Around this time, Alvin Crocker noticed a man who appeared to be in his 50s running southbound along McQuay Blvd. “He was going very slow for a jog”, and he assumed the man was coming to the end of his run. Mr. Crocker reported this information to LE (unknown when).

    Jan-13 12:00 Around noon LE informed KB about the Friday incident re the money in JB’s file cabinet

    Jan-13 12:00 KB says that after lunch she moved JB’s car from the garage to the driveway; KB said they emptied JB’s lunchbox this afternoon (changed to Weds, Jan 15)

    Jan-13 PM March 17 KB advises that she now believes BB went with neighbours to the waterfront the afternoon of Jan 13 but doesn’t know how many of the family went, thinks there at least 3

    Jan-13 PM KB contacted Principal who advised that on Friday Jeff was told they would have to discuss protocol re money, 'it is no big deal', 'not to worry about it', she would talk to him Monday.

    Jan-13 KB says it late Monday when she found the mouthguard was dry

    Jan-14 Esther reports her Monday morning sighting to LE's command post

    Jan-14 Recycling day for Gilchrist Court neighbourhood

    Jan-14 BB tweets to her Dad that she misses him

    Jan-14 Air, ground, canine searches commenced of trails and wooded areas near his home and within a 25 mile radius

    Jan-15 In a media interview on this date, BB said when JB came home from his run Sunday night “he got ready for school the next day”; KB says JB’s sister visited today and saw JB's lunch in the fridge; KB emptied lunchbox

    Jan-19 BB tweets to her Dad "I love you dad, always living your life to the fullest. Nobody else enjoys nature as much as you, I hope you're safe."

    Jan-20 LE says they have not ruled out any possibilities, including foul play

    Feb-03 LE say the possibility that JB fell and injured himself is becoming "less realistic" because he would have been found by now. Bank accounts and internet profiles have yielded no clues.

    Feb-03 Underwater search off Whitby Harbor pier of Lake Ontario started/concluded today without results

    Feb-03 Approx date LE state they are not ruling out a number of possibilities, including suicide or that JB may have run away.

    Feb-04 was scheduled date for follow-up appt with dentist

    Feb-12 Last time LE spoke with KB, no response to her subsequent emails or phone calls

    Feb-26 KB says she spoke with LE on this date but did not receive answers to some of the latest questions she had emailed them with. KB says she will now be keeping a list.

    Mar-6 Production company approached KB; they had hired a PI to study the case and were wanting to do a documentary wrt missing persons

    Mar-10 March break starts for schools. KB told production company she thinks she is interested

    Mar-10 KB advises she spent 1 hour with LE on phone discussing various things; LE advised they will put investigative effort into all ideas that they find of investigative value but some theories at WS are not being pursued; KB says this means we will not get answers/details to certain aspects (this includes the student on Sunday night and JBs filing cabinet money). KB says she will have more information on search locations/maps by the end of this week

    Mar-11 KB gave go-ahead to production company

    Mar-11 shoe found on Lake Ontario shoreline by person walking near Heydenshore Pavilion;

    Mar-13 KB is told by LE about the shoe, shown a picture, and she is sure it is JB’s. KB says it is a Nike shoe (model not revealed) with lacelocks and provided WS a sample photo of black, rounded lacelocks. KB advises that LE found what is believed to be a matching shoebox at the residence.

    Mar-14 KB met with LE and spoke with media at lakefront.

    Mar-14 6:00 PM Helicopter search over Whitby lakefront

    Mar-17 LE search at Whitby waterfront; MSM reports that LE says the shoe found last week appears to have come from water and washed ashore and that it was found about 10’ feet from the water. LE says the plan to bring in a Toronto Police Marine Unit boat to search but ice is a problem right now.

    Mar-17 KB advised that BB and other went to waterfront afternoon of Jan 13. Noted in above under date of Jan 13.
    Last edited by sillybilly; 03-17-2014 at 08:25 PM. Reason: added BB and neighbours at waterfront afternoon of Jan 13

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    Well since someone else walked the bluff area today, I spent about an hour walking around at the shoreline behind the pavillion. I will post photos of the views later this evening, but for right now, this is what I want you to understand:

    I walked from the green dumpster at the back of the pavillion straight to the end where I was met with a chain link fence. Slightly to my right (looking at the water) there was an opening with icy stairs (which I'd never noticed before). The steps are concrete and too icy to safety navigate. I walked towards the wooden stairs (still to my right) but ended up sliding down a small dirt patch to the waterfront.

    The ice shelf there is high. I'm about 5'5 and standing on it, it was about a 2 foot hop to get down to the actual beach / rocky shore line. There is about 10-15 feet between that ice shelf and the shoreline. The ice shelf is getting slushy but stury enough to carry my weight (which I'm not going to share with you!).

    Once at the bottom of the shelf, I walked along the rocky shoreline myself as far east as I could go. Well past the pavillion, and all the way to the first and second bluff. There was a second set of stairs (concrete) which I'd never seen before (never been that far along the shore line). There is a gap at the base of that staircase of about 2 feet where it just stops - in mid air. Literally.

    There is a wooden bench jutting out from the ice shelf area as well that I'd never seen before.

    Lots of dead birds as noted earlier. I saw a dead swan, some dead cormorants, ducks and a half eatten bunny. I saw one head, and no bird as well - suggestive that perhaps he was some creature's dinner.

    I looked for anything that might suggest JB was there, or had been there (clothing, mp3 player, a pin... etc). Nothing. No visible sign of anything.

    What came to mind? The ice formation / ice shelf is such that someone could possibly (depending on how it looked at the time) sought refuge under the shelf if wounded or cold. Not a great wind barrier, but might provide an igloo effect. One might also have dug a hole and climbed IN to the shelf and created an igloo effect if one had any idea of survival skills etc (not sure if JB did). Also at the time, it was probably not possible given the recent ice storm having frozen all things over in this area.

    There are areas along the shoreline of the bluff that I'd describe as just big enough to provide some shelter (shallow caves, fully visible from the shoreline, and well lit by the sunshine) if necessary. But there is nothing to suggest that JB went willingfully or unwillingly to that area.

    If he went there, to me its one of two things:
    He was one the pier for some reason and swept away by high winds and ice and waves

    OR

    He was along the bluff and slipped overboard. I'll post photos later.

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    looking forward to seeing your most recent shots, P4. Thanks for sharing what you observed.
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    Can someone tell me on this part of the timeline below did BB talk to MB when she called back the 2nd time? (MB here is JB's Mother right?)

    Jan-12 9:05 PM MB states she called BB (this would be in addition to her call at 8:30 when she spoke with JB). KB doesn’t recall MB calling back and thinks BB was supposed to call MB back re MB having found USB charger under the bed.

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    Can someone post the link to the info about the shoe being found 10 feet from the water? TIA

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    Here ya go matou:

    "about 10 feet away from the shoreline is quote by the newscaster - from the video portion of the link:

    http://www.cp24.com/news/police-scou...cher-1.1732595

    Also: "They believe at some point the shoe was in the water, and washed ashore."
    Last edited by LittlePieces; 03-17-2014 at 06:20 PM. Reason: second quote

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    Wow Sillybilly...that timeline is GREAT! Thank you so much for all the time you are taking with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlePieces View Post
    Here ya go matou:

    "about 10 feet away from the shoreline is quote by the newscaster - from the video portion of the link:

    http://www.cp24.com/news/police-scou...cher-1.1732595

    Also: "They believe at some point the shoe was in the water, and washed ashore."
    Thanks! that is the same reporter I saw earlier too, from CP24.
    Last edited by matou; 03-17-2014 at 06:37 PM.


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    Wow it's hard to get caught up when you go to work for a day!

    Anyway, amazing pictures and stories everyone. Like they say, a picture really is worth a thousand words. It sounds like the WSers did as much searching today as the DRPS.

    I have one question that came to mind, and not sure if this has ever been asked. Mommybear - was JB afraid of heights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Sleuth View Post
    Can someone tell me on this part of the timeline below did BB talk to MB when she called back the 2nd time? (MB here is JB's Mother right?)

    Jan-12 9:05 PM MB states she called BB (this would be in addition to her call at 8:30 when she spoke with JB). KB doesn’t recall MB calling back and thinks BB was supposed to call MB back re MB having found USB charger under the bed.
    Yes, MB in the timeline is Jeff's mother. It was his mom who had the recollection of having spoken with JB at 8:30 and she recalled phoning back at 9:05. We do not have any other details other than what MB said (I believe it was in a CTV interview Jan 16 but I can't get the video to work) and what mommybear has said here as noted in the timeline. Sorry, wish we knew but we don't seem to be able to get confirmation on how/who re the 9:05 call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    Yes, MB in the timeline is Jeff's mother. It was his mom who had the recollection of having spoken with JB at 8:30 and she recalled phoning back at 9:05. We do not have any other details other than what MB said (I believe it was in a CTV interview Jan 16 but I can't get the video to work) and what mommybear has said here as noted in the timeline. Sorry, wish we knew but we don't seem to be able to get confirmation on how/who re the 9:05 call.
    Thanks silly for all you do .... just to add ...the 9:05 call was mentioned in a radio interview with JB's Mom ... said she called the house at 9:05 again and spoke to BB - it's here somewhere - In one of my posts - I stuck it in with one of my questions here maybe 2 threads back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justice2962 View Post
    I'm way behind in reading here so I couldn't quote (it was on the previous thread).
    Regarding the graffiti (j-man). It reminded me of when www.mapmyrun.com was being discussed awhile back.
    I signed up at that time and searched for people. I put in J Boucher and found a "Jeff Boucher" which had no info attached to it so I just thought that it could be anybody and left it. The thing that jogged my memory was that this particular Jeff Boucher, if you click on his name, it comes up as J-MAN-BOUCHER'S PROFILE. More than likely just a coincidence, but thought I would mention it.
    Really? That's an odd coincidence! That actually may now make the graffiti worth calling in to LE. JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Sleuth View Post
    Can someone tell me on this part of the timeline below did BB talk to MB when she called back the 2nd time? (MB here is JB's Mother right?)

    Jan-12 9:05 PM MB states she called BB (this would be in addition to her call at 8:30 when she spoke with JB). KB doesn’t recall MB calling back and thinks BB was supposed to call MB back re MB having found USB charger under the bed.
    Yes, MB in the timeline is Jeff's mother. It was his mom who had the recollection of having spoken with JB at 8:30 and phoning back at 9:05. Mommybear's recollection / non-recollection is the only other information we have.

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