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Breaking news

Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board.

The airline said in a statement that flight MH370 disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

I'm praying the plane is found and people on the plane survive.

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Here's what I think:

The mom was in Germany and the 2 Iranians planned their escape from Iran to get to Europe. I don't blame them.

They know they can fly to Malaysia on their Iranian passports. There are not many countries that allow Iranian passports without a visa.

They found an underground stolen passport operation in KL, and paid $10,000 each for a European passport to get to Europe. I am certain whoever operates this underground stolen passport operation has many clients. Kind of like a drug dealer. I believe the 2 Iranians met at this point.

Now, this is where it gets hazy. Did someone convince them to do something else, besides escape to Europe?

IMO, the Iranians may be involved, but just accomplices to what could of happened if in fact MH370 was hijacked.

there's a part of me that wonders if this whole story about these boys is a ruse....the "they wanted to escape Iran and mama is waiting" makes them more sympathetic, but it is all fishy to me
 
He doesn't actually mark the 3:11 ping but you can imagine where if falls using the 2:11 or 4:11 ping marks.

The map is just good reference for sorting out the pings and understanding why they are searching both northern and southern areas.
I also see why the "terrain masking" is a consideration for the northern path.

But the southern path indicated does not traverse Indonesia.

At 2:15am, the last Thai and Malay military radar blip showed MH-370 leaving the Malacca Strait on a northwest heading toward the Andaman Sea.

The flight path on that published map shows the potential southern turn out at sea far off the Indonesian coast.

If Slate/CNN are right and the southern path should have shown up on Indonesian military radar, it seems like it should have passed much closer to Indonesia than the map indicates.
 
"If you were in charge of finding this plane, what would you be doing right now?"

:)

Source: CNN
 
Get back on track everyone. I overlooked the off topic posts last night, I am not overlooking them this morning.
 
Curious as to why it takes so long to report something sighted in a satellite pic? At this point search teams may as well go sit on the edge of Antartica and wait for debris to wash up.
 
Why are there two possible flight paths? I understand they are pings from an aircraft received by a satellite. The reality is the airplane can only go ONE way! It either went north or went south, but not both routes! Can the brains that know it all not disclose this one simple answer? :banghead:
 
I am just wondering if the satt images of the debris has moved far distances due to current, wind etc, since they are over several days old.
 
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Don't know how to carry a post over from last thread, but would like to say this for myself and I think most on this board feel the same. Discussion that implies the pilot or copilot or two traveling with stolen passports could be responsible for this tragedy is not an accusation, but is speculation for purpose of discussion. I do not see any sign of profiling based on country of origin or individual's profession. If this tragedy was brought about by anyone other than the pilot, copilot, or bearers of stolen passports we would speculate about them also. In reality we don't know much of anything about others on the flight to speculate. If it wasn't for speculation, there would be very little to discuss since we've been there and done that. I hope I made sense. Thanks
 
So we know someone programmed the sharp turn into autopilot 15 or 25 minutes after the flight took off, before the transponder was disabled, right? Well, WHAT ELSE did they program into autopilot at that time? You could say nothing at that time--they wanted to cover their tracks--but if that's the case, why not wait to program THAT in, too? If that wasn't a concern, doesn't it make sense they programmed a lot more in at that time, too? Maybe info that's not being released?
 
"If you were in charge of finding this plane, what would you be doing right now?"

:)

Source: CNN

Wow. Guess someone is going to have to read all the answers to that. Could be a fun job, or not.

I don't want to be in charge, I don't know enough about any of it to be in charge.

That is my answer, and I'm sticking to it. :floorlaugh:
 
Why are there two possible flight paths? I understand they are pings from an aircraft received by a satellite. The reality is the airplane can only go ONE way! It either went north or went south, but not both routes! Can the brains that know it all not disclose this one simple answer? :banghead:

I don't think the data received from the plane can show exact location, just within proximity of the object picking up the data. I think that was just radar data?

I may be very wrong, and hope someone that really knows can explain.
 
If I were in charge, we'd be trying to plot where the objects might be days after images were taken the look there as the outer edge moving in to where the object was imaged.
 
So we know someone programmed the sharp turn into autopilot 15 or 25 minutes after the flight took off, before the transponder was disabled, right? Well, WHAT ELSE did they program into autopilot at that time? You could say nothing at that time--they wanted to cover their tracks--but if that's the case, why not wait to program THAT in, too? If that wasn't a concern, doesn't it make sense they programmed a lot more in at that time, too? Maybe info that's not being released?

That makes sense. Maybe the plane crashed before the next series of turns was able to execute.
 
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