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    Not sure if this was posted before:
    Hoboken Police Sgt. Anthony Falco told WNBC-TV that surveillance video showed Jarzyk running in exercise clothes near the river around 2 a.m. Falco said another camera caught him jogging into a park nearly a minute later.
    http://www.newsmax.com/thewire/andre.../04/id/563740/


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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky181 View Post
    Not sure if this was posted before:


    http://www.newsmax.com/thewire/andre.../04/id/563740/
    yes to my knowledge it was never released (not sure why)


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRRI View Post
    I don't think his girlfriend has been dating him for very long, in December she was talking about how she was single.
    I agree BRRI, In looking through her page I thought the same thing. Doesn't really matter though, she seems very upset. He sounds like an awesome guy. So sad about this. I feel for these parents, and the rest of family and friends. Makes no sense.


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    Hey all I see we are still looking for answers, I've been reading the thread everyday and sharing some posts to folks that are closer to the investigation in hopes they will find something. Marble made some great points about different courses a runner may take in that area and those suggestions have been forwarded to LE. I agree they seem to be very interested in the water and there must be a good reason why, but I think they need to keep looking elsewhere. Hobokenfriend, you sound closer to the situation than me and I concur with everything you have posted. The only few things I can add, which is not exactly helpful but may tamp down some questions is this.. I understand it was not unusual for Andrew to take fire escape when going for a run as he didn't like bringing his keys. He accidentally locked himself out that way. He was training for a half marathon and was due to run 10 miles perhaps that day or the following day. I'm guessing maybe he chose that night so he could rest on Sunday, maybe he just had the energy and said screw it I'm going. I'm getting the impression that finding footage has been difficult for various reasons. Some businesses subcontract their surveillance (which in turn takes time to retrieve), some areas are operated by port authority (such as train station) and the poor conditions that night made some higher building camera shots unclear. There were attempts to track his running log/gps but nothing. Hoboken is NOT safe, I have friends that still live there and they assure me that it is not a great place to be alone at night. So in all, the rain does not stop runners, however it also doesn't stop evil. If there is a lead out there, I hope it surfaces soon. Hobokenfriend, I pray you find your friend.


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    I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but I live in Jersey and the only news I watch comes from PIX 11. The other night, they had posted and televised a small segment of the footage that catches Andrew jogging. It begins at the 0.20 mark. It does not show too much, but figured some of you may be interested in seeing it.

    http://pix11.com/2014/04/02/exclusiv...#axzz2xpRnzJBQ


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    Here is the club's page. https://www.facebook.com/TheWestFive/photos_stream

    On the page, it says : Please repost this to help find our friend Andrew Jarzyk. We have spoken to the police to see how we could help. On Saturday night Andrew left the bar with a group of friends and went missing afterwards. If anyone saw him in Hoboken after 1am contact the police. We're hoping he's found soon.


    So, did he leave alone, or with friends?


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    Quote Originally Posted by momthebomb View Post
    I agree BRRI, In looking through her page I thought the same thing. Doesn't really matter though, she seems very upset. He sounds like an awesome guy. So sad about this. I feel for these parents, and the rest of family and friends. Makes no sense.
    I guess it could matter in a sense of how exclusive the relationship was. If it was more of an open relationship or not serious, maybe he made another guy angry at the club that night over a girl?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRRI View Post

    Gah! I thought I reached a site for porn stars!! Why do these young women feel the need to put so much out there? What a sad world we live in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IHAVENOCLUE View Post
    If you are referring to Karyn Jarzyk...(who has been quoted in various articles)

    That is Andrew's brother's (Stephen) wife...

    So... She is Andrew's sister-in-law...

    Andrew's girlfriend has initials of EK... And you can find her Facebook link on this thread - Page 3- # 56....

    HTH...
    Yep....that is exactly what I did! Thank you IHAVENOCLUE! My mind is spinning these days. Following too many cases.....
    Sleuthing....from the perch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRRI View Post
    Here is the club's page. https://www.facebook.com/TheWestFive/photos_stream

    On the page, it says : Please repost this to help find our friend Andrew Jarzyk. We have spoken to the police to see how we could help. On Saturday night Andrew left the bar with a group of friends and went missing afterwards. If anyone saw him in Hoboken after 1am contact the police. We're hoping he's found soon.


    So, did he leave alone, or with friends?
    I thought it was reported he left alone.


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    Thanks, Private Cupcake, for passing my info along. I also called and left a message on a Hoboken police answering machine that I was forwarded to suggesting to them that they should be certain to check the Paterson Plank road area in Jersey City/Union City.

    The info that he may have been setting out for 10 miles is very helpful. He could have covered 3-5 miles in any direction from where he was spotted.

    The security camera caught him around 2:00, and he was running toward the train station and pier A. He was then very early into his run, about a mile or two depending on where he picked the path up from his home, so ignore my earlier speculation that he could have hopped up on the rail while feeling exuberant after completing his run.

    What most runners do at that point of their run on that course is either loop around the pier next to the train station and head back along the path in the opposite direction, or continue on through the train station. The visibility was terrible, but it seems like he would have been picked up by both video cameras again within 4-10 minutes if he's done the turn-around. It's too bad that there's a lag getting train station video from Port Authority- that would clear up whether he continued along the Jersey City waterfront walkways or not. For anyone not familiar with that section of NJ, he'd have to run through the station in order to continue on along waterfront.

    He may very well have decided to leave the waterfront where the winds were heaviest after his first mile or two, and turned right onto one of the roads that lead through hoboken. If he'd turned right onto Observer Highway he could have followed that straight up into the Jersey City Heights. That's also a very desolate area as the road climbs up the Palisades into the heights. I run Paterson Plank road at all hours despite the bodies because there's usually some car traffic on it, but I would *never* run that stretch of road behind Christ Hospital after dark, fwiw. I think they should check there as well as the new bike path that picks up nearby and isn't officially open (but people are already using it).


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    I'm not sure why speculation about whether he left alone, how recent his relationship was, etc. is pertinent at all at this point since we now know he did indeed go for a run and there's video evidence of him (and only him) running on the waterfront by himself at 2:00 in the pouring rain. I mean, maybe if he'd gotten in an argument at the bar or something, but he didn't, so.....?


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    Quote Originally Posted by marble View Post
    I'm not sure why speculation about whether he left alone, how recent his relationship was, etc. is pertinent at all at this point since we now know he did indeed go for a run and there's video evidence of him (and only him) running on the waterfront by himself at 2:00 in the pouring rain. I mean, maybe if he'd gotten in an argument at the bar or something, but he didn't, so.....?
    Because we don't really seem to know much of anything, so anything that can be an indicator needs to be looked at. It's important to look at everything, not just the media reports. Is it even confirmed that it is without a doubt him in the videos? They reported he was wearing a different outfit than that shown in the video. They reported he left alone, and now the one post on the club's page said he didn't. If he wasn't in a serious relationship, maybe he hit on some girl that night, the girl's boyfriend saw it-said nothing at the time- then when he saw him out running later in the night, confronted him. Everything needs to be taken into account as a possibility until it can be proven absolutely wrong.


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    Marble insight into what and whre he may have run has been very helpful, especially since you know the area so well. Thank you for this. On one of the links they said that he entered a park about a minute after he was seen on camera. What park could this be and is there any popular running paths leading from it? I do not know the area that well, but when I read this it made me think that by entering the park he was leaving the river area. Marble, you also really shed some light on just how far he may have gone, especially if he was intending to run close to 10 miles. I am assuming they are searching on land in JC too, right? Can anyone helo me visulize this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRRI View Post
    Because we don't really seem to know much of anything, so anything that can be an indicator needs to be looked at. It's important to look at everything, not just the media reports. Is it even confirmed that it is without a doubt him in the videos? They reported he was wearing a different outfit than that shown in the video. They reported he left alone, and now the one post on the club's page said he didn't. If he wasn't in a serious relationship, maybe he hit on some girl that night, the girl's boyfriend saw it-said nothing at the time- then when he saw him out running later in the night, confronted him. Everything needs to be taken into account as a possibility until it can be proven absolutely wrong.
    Fair enough!
    Here's an overhead view of the train station with Observer Highway highlighted. You can see where it intersects and why many runners use these roads as a looped route. The climb up and and from the heights places some hills into what would otherwise be a very flat training course: An overhead google map view

    Edited to add: Hoboken Ave, which splits off from Observer Highway (which is not a highway in the normal sense, it has a sidewalk and a lot of foot traffic/residences) is the hilly road that runs up behind Christ Hospital that I mentioned as being very desolate and dangerous after dark. New York Ave is sketchy as well and currently closed to vehicular traffic, but a runner doing the full, long loop would likely head up Hoboken Ave (I say this because that's the route I take during the day if I'm running back via Observer).
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