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    After watching every day of testimonyin trial #2, I am convinced, beyond a reasonable doubt, that this <mod snip>, like Judge Stephens said -I paraphrase- beat his pregnant wife to dearth until he was too tired to hit her anymore. Even with the civil suits taken out of testimony, I am still convinced of his guilt (and his absolute lack of care, remorse, or any sense of personal responsibility).

    If anyone has doubts, they can review the footage themselves. It is available on youtube.
    Last edited by fran; 04-03-2014 at 02:32 PM. Reason: no name calling please
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    I heard the same thing, seattlechiquita, and I believe that is exactly what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlechiquita View Post
    After watching every day of testimonyin trial #2, I am convinced, beyond a reasonable doubt, that this <mod snip>, like Judge Stephens said -I paraphrase- beat his pregnant wife to dearth until he was too tired to hit her anymore. Even with the civil suits taken out of testimony, I am still convinced of his guilt (and his absolute lack of care, remorse, or any sense of personal responsibility).

    If anyone has doubts, they can review the footage themselves. It is available on youtube.
    But you are basing your opinions on inadmissible testimony. It is more important to me that everyone receives a fair trial. A Judge who has already determined he was guilty is going to be severely biased and this one was. Jurors are greatly influenced by the Judge's demeanor. I think this is the first trial I ever watched where a civil ruling of slayer was admitted as evidence. That's so over the top, it is sorta sickening to those of us who care about rights of due process.
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    Agree on the two above posts!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBelle View Post
    But you are basing your opinions on inadmissible testimony. It is more important to me that everyone receives a fair trial. A Judge who has already determined he was guilty is going to be severely biased and this one was. Jurors are greatly influenced by the Judge's demeanor. I think this is the first trial I ever watched where a civil ruling of slayer was admitted as evidence. That's so over the top, it is sorta sickening to those of us who care about rights of due process.
    I'm all for a fair trial, HE GOT ONE!!! As a matter of fact, he GOT TWO!
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    if it wasn't so sickening i'd say this had to be an april fool's joke.
    we need to encourage harder sentencing on those that are harming our children. our children are worth it!!

    stop the circus!! these children as all children deserve to be found and justice brought forth for what has happened to them!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by athy View Post
    if it wasn't so sickening i'd say this had to be an april fool's joke.
    yup!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlechiquita View Post
    After watching every day of testimonyin trial #2, I am convinced, beyond a reasonable doubt, that this <mod snip>, like Judge Stephens said -I paraphrase- beat his pregnant wife to dearth until he was too tired to hit her anymore. Even with the civil suits taken out of testimony, I am still convinced of his guilt (and his absolute lack of care, remorse, or any sense of personal responsibility).

    If anyone has doubts, they can review the footage themselves. It is available on youtube.
    That sounds like a murder out of rage. Crimes of passion aren't usually as planned out as they claim this murder was.

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    Last edited by fran; 04-03-2014 at 02:35 PM. Reason: quoted post

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBelle View Post
    But you are basing your opinions on inadmissible testimony. It is more important to me that everyone receives a fair trial. A Judge who has already determined he was guilty is going to be severely biased and this one was. Jurors are greatly influenced by the Judge's demeanor. I think this is the first trial I ever watched where a civil ruling of slayer was admitted as evidence. That's so over the top, it is sorta sickening to those of us who care about rights of due process.
    I specifically mentioned that even without the testimony re: civil cases, I am convinced he is guilty so your assertion of me basing my 'verdict' on inadmissible testimony is incorrect - even if you took out ALL mention of that, I would vote to convict. Over and over again.

    I care about due process as much as the next person and I concur that the civil matters should have been kept out of play. They will this time around.

    The defendant always has the choice of testifying on his own defense. "Sadly" for this defendant, he already has testified - and everything he said them can and will be used against him once more.

    I need to stop posting for a few. This is really spiking my blood pressure. Like some friends have said, if it wasn't so abhorrent I would liken it to an April's fools joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulessa View Post
    I'm all for a fair trial, HE GOT ONE!!! As a matter of fact, he GOT TWO!
    The Court doesn't agree with you nor do I. Sometimes mistakes are made and this is one of those cases.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBelle View Post
    The Court doesn't agree with you nor do I. Sometimes mistakes are made and this is one of those cases.


    MyBelle, That's fine, and I respect your opinion, but I also respect mine. Hugs sweetie.
    Media thread for Abby and Libby.


    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...5#post13163455

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    We are the watchers. We are witnesses. We see what has gone before. We see what happens now, at this dangerous moment in human history. We see what's going to happen - what will surely happen - unless we come together: we - the Peoples of all Nations - to restore peace and harmony and balance to the Earth, our Mother.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlechiquita View Post
    I specifically mentioned that even without the testimony re: civil cases, I am convinced he is guilty so your assertion of me basing my 'verdict' on inadmissible testimony is incorrect - even if you took out ALL mention of that, I would vote to convict. Over and over again.

    I care about due process as much as the next person and I concur that the civil matters should have been kept out of play. They will this time around.

    The defendant always has the choice of testifying on his own defense. "Sadly" for this defendant, he already has testified - and everything he said them can and will be used against him once more.

    I need to stop posting for a few. This is really spiking my blood pressure. Like some friends have said, if it wasn't so abhorrent I would liken it to an April's fools joke.
    I didn't say you weren't entitled to your opinion. I just feel your opinion is based more on emotion than evidence and that's okay. Neither the first trial (mistrial) or the second trial (guilty) proved opportunity. The testimony allowed in the second trial was an act of desperation by the prosecution. I was shocked the Judge allowed it. The higher court was doing it's job in ordering a new trial.

    There is no credible evidence of opportunity and I can't conclude guilt without proof of opportunity.

    JMO

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    I was hoping it was an April Fool's joke, knowing how jason was such a prankster! (sarcasm)

    Thank goodness the daycare stuff stayed. They didn't even have that in the first trial did they?

    I really am not that surprised.......although I was hoping he wouldn't get a new trial. That appellate attorney for the prosecution didn't even really convince me. Just the same......this has ruined my day.

    Does anyone think the <mod snip> will get bail?
    Last edited by fran; 04-03-2014 at 02:38 PM. Reason: no name calling please

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    I sure hope not, jilly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jilly View Post
    I was hoping it was an April Fool's joke, knowing how jason was such a prankster! (sarcasm)

    Thank goodness the daycare stuff stayed. They didn't even have that in the first trial did they?

    I really am not that surprised.......although I was hoping he wouldn't get a new trial. That appellate attorney for the prosecution didn't even really convince me. Just the same......this has ruined my day.

    Does anyone think the <mod snip> will get bail?
    I think bail is possible but don't really know. It's great the daycare stuff stayed. They didn't use it in the first trial, iirc.
    Last edited by fran; 04-03-2014 at 02:39 PM. Reason: quoted post

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