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    FL - Michael Roberts, 53, homeless, beaten to death, Holly Hill, 25 May 2005

    HOLLY HILL - Two teenagers have told Volusia County sheriff's investigators that they killed a homeless man ``for fun'' and ``something to do.'' Christopher Scamahorn, 14, and Jeffery Spurgeon, 18, said they beat the 53-year-old victim with their fists and sticks and kicked him, sheriff's spokesman Brandon Haught said Sunday. They went back to the woods three times after the initial attack to beat the man again, officials said.

    A group of teenagers found the man Saturday, and the condition of the body indicated he had been dead for several days, officials said.

    Spurgeon's mother told investigators Saturday that she heard there might be a body in the woods. She later told investigators that her son might have been involved.


    http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB1QZVID9E.html


    Glad that mother had the courage to step up to the plate and let LE know something. How bored can a teen get that they would have to resort to murder to entertain themselves??!!
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    15-Year-Olds Charged In Homeless Slaying Will Be Tried As Adults

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    FL - Youth says jail "too hard"

    This boy was convicted of helping to beat a homeless man to death. Now that he's had a taste of jail, he wants a lighter sentence. He said that he didn't feel bad when killing the homeless man. But I guess jail is a different story.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/10458584/detail.html

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    Poor diddums......he is right where he belongs.
    Hes not sorry for beating the homeless man...hes sorry because he got caught.

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    Oh poor baby, isnt that sad. Owell. Too Bad...Dont be a sissy now.

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    I have mixed feelings about these kids. I really think that young teenagers do not have fully developed brains; hence, they cannot fully comprehend the consequences of their actions.

    That being said, I don't excuse murder at any age. However, I can see a pack mentality if one or two of the kids started the deadly fight with this defenseless homeless person.

    Did this kid actively participate in the crime or was he just there? I have to agree with the judge, though. If this kid were to get off with a slap of the wrist, he would be killing someone again.

    I just wish that these kids could be in rehabilitation and counseling while they are in prison.
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    Heaven help me for thinking like this, but my first thought is: man enough to do the crime, man enough to do the time. That having been said, I do believe he should be able to complete his education at least through high school. At least he is in a juvenile facility, not thrown in with adult criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opie
    Heaven help me for thinking like this, but my first thought is: man enough to do the crime, man enough to do the time. That having been said, I do believe he should be able to complete his education at least through high school. At least he is in a juvenile facility, not thrown in with adult criminals.
    Yet! He thinks he has it bad now....just wait till he gets to big boy prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanandjim
    I have mixed feelings about these kids. I really think that young teenagers do not have fully developed brains; hence, they cannot fully comprehend the consequences of their actions.

    That being said, I don't excuse murder at any age. However, I can see a pack mentality if one or two of the kids started the deadly fight with this defenseless homeless person.

    Did this kid actively participate in the crime or was he just there? I have to agree with the judge, though. If this kid were to get off with a slap of the wrist, he would be killing someone again.

    I just wish that these kids could be rehabilitation and counseling while they are in prison.
    Messner is a big boy. He was 15 at the time he was brought into the woods to see the homeless man his friends had been beating. Even at that young age, he outweighed the victim, Michael Roberts, by 200 pounds when he jumped on his chest, crushing his ribcage. Roberts died.
    I think he is where he deserves to be. Hopefully the "tough time" he's having in jail will give him ample time to think about maybe how the homeless man felt as he was being beaten to death, begging all the time for mercy. I agree, though, that juvenile jail should be more about rehabilitation and counseling. Anne Perry committed a violent crime as a youth, and she seems to have been rehabilitated, becoming a positive, contributing member of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanandjim
    I have mixed feelings about these kids. I really think that young teenagers do not have fully developed brains; hence, they cannot fully comprehend the consequences of their actions.

    That being said, I don't excuse murder at any age. However, I can see a pack mentality if one or two of the kids started the deadly fight with this defenseless homeless person.

    Did this kid actively participate in the crime or was he just there? I have to agree with the judge, though. If this kid were to get off with a slap of the wrist, he would be killing someone again.

    I just wish that these kids could be rehabilitation and counseling while they are in prison.
    I agree with so much of this post. Unfortunately, there is very little rehabilitation going on in juvenile prisons. Mainly, I think the kids there just learn to be "better" and more hardened criminals. It's very sad - a tremendous waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ
    Yet! He thinks he has it bad now....just wait till he gets to big boy prison
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    In America at what age do juvies enter adult prison?
    Down here it is usually 18...depending on the type of crime committed.

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    ...tough, effin' ****...

    ...do the crime, do the time...

    If he hadn't beat the homeless man, he wouldn't be with the psychos he's with now...end of story...

    nan...this kid is gone already...waaay too late for "rehab."

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    agreed cappucinna--its too late for him--this sadistic kid needs to stay in prison as long as that poor homeless guy remains dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Hamilton
    agreed cappucinna--its too late for him--this sadistic kid needs to stay in prison as long as that poor homeless guy remains dead
    Amen. Unfortunately he'll be out in 22 years. He'll be about 38 years old. Still plenty of years to commit more crime.

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    and this sort of crime is hardly unique-- crimes against the homeless have become a nationwide problem--A 42 year old homeless woman in Seattle was beaten and set on fire,she did not survive--A man in Texas some years ago murdered 4 homeless men--he was executed--

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