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    FL - Marco Uti, 2, beaten to death, Miami Beach, 7 May 2000

    Claudychel Leyva hit the toddler so hard he split the boy's liver in two, and ripped the boy's lips from his gums. He scalded the child and even bit him. He cracked the boy's skull against a wall.

    Testifying before a Miami-Dade jury in his first-degree murder trial Tuesday, Leyva admitted it all -- but said he didn't mean it.

    ''I'm telling you I killed the baby. I'm not denying this. But I didn't intend to hurt him,'' Leyva said

    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...l/11783480.htm
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Let me get this straight ... He thought he was doing a good thing by trying to revive the toddler and accidentally killed him?

    But, he really didn't intend to kill him because he really thought that he was already dead.

    I swear we need a chasing our tails icon.

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    If you go to the link and press more photos you will see more than you would ever wish to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    If you go to the link and press more photos you will see more than you would ever wish to.

    I never listen, but this one time I wish I had.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew

    I never listen, but this one time I wish I had.
    I was shocked ... I mean I have NEVER seen a reputable newsite display a picture like that.

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    ''There is absolutely, positively no evidence in this case of premeditation,'' Fink said.

    So, a person who beats a child to death plans it first?

    Let's test the guys theory...we'll wait for him to go to sleep and then do to him what he did to the child...just to see if we get a response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew

    I never listen, but this one time I wish I had.
    oh god, I agree.
    Why did i click that.

    Please don't click the link!!! It shows a picture of the dead little baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    I was shocked ... I mean I have NEVER seen a reputable newsite display a picture like that.
    I am calling them.
    They should not print that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1986
    ''There is absolutely, positively no evidence in this case of premeditation,'' Fink said.

    So, a person who beats a child to death plans it first?

    Let's test the guys theory...we'll wait for him to go to sleep and then do to him what he did to the child...just to see if we get a response!
    I enjoy scientific studies of this nature. Do you think if we submit the results to a science fair we could win first prize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    I enjoy scientific studies of this nature. Do you think if we submit the results to a science fair we could win first prize?
    Sure! In fact, I bet we could do a comparitive study on whether the "Eye For An Eye" punishment decreases the number of child deaths by adults.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1986
    Sure! In fact, I bet we could do a comparitive study on whether the "Eye For An Eye" punishment decreases the number of child deaths by adults.
    Do you think this study might be applicable for those baby rapists as well?
    Just a thought . . .

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    His attorney is trying to get the jury to decide that there was no "intent" therefore, it can't be first degree murder, so the jury (if they're able) must convict him of a lesser charge. Very smart on his part, but I don't think the jury will buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)
    His attorney is trying to get the jury to decide that there was no "intent" therefore, it can't be first degree murder, so the jury (if they're able) must convict him of a lesser charge. Very smart on his part, but I don't think the jury will buy it.
    Hell, I don't buy it and I'm way over here. I don't think they will after viewing that one small picture. Can you imagine a screen shot of that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    Hell, I don't buy it and I'm way over here. I don't think they will after viewing that one small picture. Can you imagine a screen shot of that one?

    You have to admit though, its different. The dude took the stand and admitted what he did. How many guilty defendants would we have LOVED to get that much out of??? I don't think it will sway this jury the way he wants. In fact, it may even piss some of them off even more! However, his attorney knew his goose was cooked and they're now trying to save his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)
    You have to admit though, its different. The dude took the stand and admitted what he did. How many guilty defendants would we have LOVED to get that much out of??? I don't think it will sway this jury the way he wants. In fact, it may even piss some of them off even more! However, his attorney knew his goose was cooked and they're now trying to save his life.
    It must be a new defense trend. We just saw it in the case where the guy through the girl at the radiator.

    I wonder if Jerry Hobbs will try that one, my knife slipped and oops . . .

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