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    IL - Larry Martin, 28, stabbed to death at his Chicago home, 2 May 2014

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,5894608.story

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2...l#.U2Saf8ovCUQ

    "A judge set bail today at $1 million for a pregnant woman accused of fatally stabbing her boyfriend at their Southwest Side home after they fought because the man didn’t’ buy anything for her at a shopping mall.......

    Martin, 28, is the father of her unborn child and they lived together......"


    The couple went to the mall with Martin's 8 year old son and his 25 year old cousin. Martin bought something for his son and his cousin but not for Miata. This enraged her and on the ride home from the mall she attacked him, almost causing the car to wreck.

    When they stopped to drop off an item at Martin's mother, she scratched and hit Martin and drove off in his car, leaving Martin, his 8 year old son and the cousin behind.

    The trio walked to the apartment that the couple shared and where the couple argued again and Miata locked them all out.

    Martin pounded on the door and Miata opened it. Once inside, Phelan stabbed Martin in his side with a knife. Martin's son had entered the apartment with his father and witnessed Miata stab his father. Martin screamed in pain and the cousin ran into the apartment and applied pressure and escorted him out the apartment where he collapsed.

    Phelan was not done yet and she stood over Martin as he lay dying on the sidewalk, screaming: “This is what you get for messing with me,’’ . “I hope you die, mother f-----,’’ Martin was rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead.

    At her bail hearing, Miata's sister, Arnesia, was in attendance and claimed Martin had been physically abusing her sister but that she just recently been told this when Miata canceled her baby shower which would have been this past Sunday. Arnesia said that her sister had not been herself lately and that she "knew something was wrong" but that her family had not ever met Martin, even though Miata and Larry lived together and Miata is 7 months pregnant.

    I'm somewhat skeptical of the sister's claims. Why would her family not have met the boyfriend, especially if Miata was pregnant and they suspected that Martin was abusing her? From the account of the fatal fight, Miata certainly seemed to be the fearless aggressor, not the abused, scared victim. but I guess we will hear more about this as the case develops.

    Seriously this is unbelievable. Who behaves this way? Her birthday was allegedly Thursday so I guess she felt she deserved a gift but this is just insane. Miata was a college senior only a few classes away from graduating with a degree in public relations and had good position as an intern ( http://www.niagarafoundation.org/dyn...r-for-hip-hop/ ).

    I just can't even figure why she would throw her whole life away over not getting something at the mall. I'm sure there there will be a whole lot more to come in this story.
    Last edited by SwampMama; 05-03-2014 at 04:13 AM. Reason: clarification
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    Cyrus C. convicted of 2004 arson in Harvey, La. that killed 4 people, including his 19-month-old daughter, his teenage girlfriend, the girlfriend's mom and GF's young brother (age 11). He was acquitted in 2008 (state charges) in 2008 and found GUILTY (federal charges) in 2013

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...d_of_2004.html

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    Martin's last words were to his 8 year old son . Martin told him "‘I’m gonna die, but I love you.’ ”

    This happened on Wednesday April 30. Miata's birthday was the next day ( Thursday, May 1, I think) so she was possibly enraged that Martin bought stuff for his son and cousin but not for her. But it wasn't yet her birthday so she didn't know what he had planned for her birthday.

    For instance, year ago my boyfriend gave me a plain cheap wallet for my birthday. Kinda odd, i remember thinking, but I thanked him anyway and told him i was happy with it and that was the truth. I loved him and the gift really didn't matter. Maybe he just had no idea how to choose a gift or was broke. I would never have hurt his feelings by rejecting something he gave to me with love.

    Later that night, he brought me to a restaurant and we went for a ride by the lake and sat by the water where he proposed and gave me a beautiful diamond ring.

    My point being, for all Miata knew, he could have had something special for her birthday and was doing the ole fakeout by acting nonchalant before the big day. I wonder if in fact, he did have a gift and plans for her birthday. Instead, she exploded and rather than seeing what he had planned for her birthday, she spent her birthday in jail, where she will no doubt spend a great many more birthdays.

    Her child will be born in custody and grow up , raised by someone else, with a mother in prison and a deceased father.

    Martin's son will no longer have his father and will never be able to forget witnessing the murder and death of his father which happened right there in front of him.

    The alleged cancelled baby shower (which I believe would have been on the weekend before this incident) was also a bit odd. Even if the couple were having issues, the baby was going to arrive in 2 months anyway and would no doubt need all of the items that baby showers feature. So why would Miata cancel the shower?

    i just can't get over this young woman who was apparently intelligent and ambitious to throw it all away in the heat of anger. There has to be more to it. But no matter what the answers to all of this are, it still won't make any difference. The damage is done and so many lives (Martin, Martin's son, Miata' and their unborn child) are forever damaged or ruined because of this.
    SwampMama

    GUILTY!!!

    Cyrus C. convicted of 2004 arson in Harvey, La. that killed 4 people, including his 19-month-old daughter, his teenage girlfriend, the girlfriend's mom and GF's young brother (age 11). He was acquitted in 2008 (state charges) in 2008 and found GUILTY (federal charges) in 2013

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...d_of_2004.html

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    I swear I will never understand where this self-absorbed attitudes come from. I am getting too old I guess.....


    "A pregnant woman is accused of stabbing and killing her boyfriend for not buying her gifts during a trip to a shopping mall."


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    I would so like to slap this witch....she sounds so cruel and nasty in every way. And to stab him in front of his son....unforgivable.


    "Prior to the stabbing, Phelan, Martin, Lavelle and Martin's 25-year-old cousin went to a shopping mall, Runk said. She reportedly accused Martin of being 'selfish' for buying items for his cousin and son but not her."


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    She sounds like a true psycho.I wonder if she is borderline?

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    I will definitely be keeping up on this case and updating this.
    SwampMama

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    Cyrus C. convicted of 2004 arson in Harvey, La. that killed 4 people, including his 19-month-old daughter, his teenage girlfriend, the girlfriend's mom and GF's young brother (age 11). He was acquitted in 2008 (state charges) in 2008 and found GUILTY (federal charges) in 2013

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...d_of_2004.html

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    Pregnancy hormones defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    She sounds like a true psycho.I wonder if she is borderline?
    My guess is, she's a sociopath who figured she wasn't getting what she "deserved" to have, so she wanted revenge. She really doesn't sound too much like the borderline women I've met--they were more like scared, clingy, and insecure, which is a far cry from homicidal. They tended to get into screaming fights more often than the average person, but I couldn't imagine any of them stabbing someone in front of their child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Lynx View Post
    Pregnancy hormones defense?
    LOL I was thinking it. But I've never heard of anybody having a case this bad.

    besides that she was 7 months along. Past the first three months with all the hormone changes and before the last three months when exhaustion and irritability set in. Usually that trimester is when women feel their best.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Lynx View Post
    Pregnancy hormones defense?
    I'm thinking that will come into play in the defense along with alleged abuse and all sorts of other mud slinging because she surely will have to throw a lot of stuff out there to try am make herself look like she was the victim or that there is any logical reason for her killing him. It's not like she can try and say she didn't do it. That's a well established irrefutable fact.

    It doesn't sound like she had any remorse or affect as he lay dying, other than to continue to verbally abuse him by calling him a MFer and saying she hoped he would die. Well she got her wish on that one.

    The supposed cancelled baby shower is puzzling to me. Why on earth would a mother to be cancel a baby shower, which are traditionally happy events? Was that also not up to her expectations and was cancelled because of that? Who was supposed to be hosting this event?

    I admit carp like this gets to me. For someone to heartlessly kill a father in front of his young child and to continue to berate him as he lay dying is just insane, especially because her rage was sparked at the fact he had not bought her anything?!?! Seriously?? Who behaves this way? Who reacts to such a petty thing with such extreme violence and deadly retaliation?

    I just can't see any defense that will really help her. It is obvious she did it, she did it in front of witnesses, had been repeatedly attacking him before stabbing him. She was in no danger and even if had physically abused her (as the sister claims that Miata alluded to before the killing) she was in no danger when she attacked him. She let him into that apartment and ambushed him. If she was in fear, she was safely locked inside and could have called police.

    Sure pregnancy hormones do affect women, but the do not turn women into killers. Usually pregnancy hormones make women more emotions, sentimental, maternal, more likely to cry (not to stab!),etc.

    I am saying the following theory completely as a possibility( with absolutely no facts to it at all to indicate it, other than her extreme behavior) but was it possible that she had an underlying mental issue (bipolar or such) and was off her meds because of the pregnancy? I still wouldn't justify her acts but it might help explain why she over reacted so violently.

    In cases where one parent kills the other (not self defense or accident), I believe that the offender should lose custody and the primary custody should be awarded to the deceased family. The killer parent should lose all rights to be a parent to that child, nor should the deceased family have to be forced to bring the child to visit the parent in jail or to deal with the killer's family.

    I believe that she child should be immediately taken at birth and given to Larry's mother (or any relative that wants to commit to raising the child) if that is what they want. The choice of where the child goes should be left to Larry's family and have nothing to do with what Miata wants. I feel that Miata forfeited those rights when she brutally killed Larry Martin.
    SwampMama

    GUILTY!!!

    Cyrus C. convicted of 2004 arson in Harvey, La. that killed 4 people, including his 19-month-old daughter, his teenage girlfriend, the girlfriend's mom and GF's young brother (age 11). He was acquitted in 2008 (state charges) in 2008 and found GUILTY (federal charges) in 2013

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...d_of_2004.html


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    Swampmama good point about there maybe being the possibility of an underlying mental health problem and off her meds due to the pregnancy.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/...mall-20140502/

    She is being held in the hospital part of the jail
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    It sounds like jealousy over Martin's son to me. So many women can't stand the children from an ex. It seems like she flew off the deep end into a jealous rage. JMO

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    Angry Lavelle was not her son!!

    Quote Originally Posted by swampmama View Post
    i'm thinking that will come into play in the defense along with alleged abuse and all sorts of other mud slinging because she surely will have to throw a lot of stuff out there to try am make herself look like she was the victim or that there is any logical reason for her killing him. It's not like she can try and say she didn't do it. That's a well established irrefutable fact.

    It doesn't sound like she had any remorse or affect as he lay dying, other than to continue to verbally abuse him by calling him a mfer and saying she hoped he would die. Well she got her wish on that one.

    The supposed cancelled baby shower is puzzling to me. Why on earth would a mother to be cancel a baby shower, which are traditionally happy events? Was that also not up to her expectations and was cancelled because of that? Who was supposed to be hosting this event?

    I admit carp like this gets to me. For someone to heartlessly kill a father in front of his young child and to continue to berate him as he lay dying is just insane, especially because her rage was sparked at the fact he had not bought her anything?!?! Seriously?? Who behaves this way? Who reacts to such a petty thing with such extreme violence and deadly retaliation?

    I just can't see any defense that will really help her. It is obvious she did it, she did it in front of witnesses, had been repeatedly attacking him before stabbing him. She was in no danger and even if had physically abused her (as the sister claims that miata alluded to before the killing) she was in no danger when she attacked him. She let him into that apartment and ambushed him. If she was in fear, she was safely locked inside and could have called police.

    Sure pregnancy hormones do affect women, but the do not turn women into killers. Usually pregnancy hormones make women more emotions, sentimental, maternal, more likely to cry (not to stab!),etc.

    I am saying the following theory completely as a possibility( with absolutely no facts to it at all to indicate it, other than her extreme behavior) but was it possible that she had an underlying mental issue (bipolar or such) and was off her meds because of the pregnancy? I still wouldn't justify her acts but it might help explain why she over reacted so violently.

    in cases where one parent kills the other (not self defense or accident), i believe that the offender should lose custody and the primary custody should be awarded to the deceased family. The killer parent should lose all rights to be a parent to that child, nor should the deceased family have to be forced to bring the child to visit the parent in jail or to deal with the killer's family.

    I believe that she child should be immediately taken at birth and given to larry's mother (or any relative that wants to commit to raising the child) if that is what they want. The choice of where the child goes should be left to larry's family and have nothing to do with what miata wants. I feel that miata forfeited those rights when she brutally killed larry martin.



    Miata was not Lavelle's mother. Little lavelle has enough stuff to deal with , with his mother and Larry was his full-time parent. This girl ruined lavelle
    s life by taking his whole world away. I was his neighbor and we are devistated by this.

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