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    TX - Gregg Co. WhtFem UP3299, 18-28, Cleft Lip-Cleft Palate, May'02

    There's a new CT Scan based Facial Reconstruction for this Jane Doe, so I am starting a thread for her.


    NamUs UP # 3299 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3299


    Unidentified White Female

    The victim was discovered on May 21, 2002 in Gregg County, Texas



    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 18-28 years old
    Approximate Height: 5'3"
    Approximate Weight: 115 lbs
    Deformities : Cleft lip, Cleft palate

    Body Condition
    * Not recognizable - Partial remains with soft tissues
    * One or more limbs not recovered
    Probable year of death: 2000 to 2002

    Identifiers
    Dentals: Available
    Fingerprints: No fingerprint information is currently available
    DNA: Status: Sample submitted - Tests complete

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    Here's an article with a little bit more info: http://www.ketknbc.com/news/crimewat...n-remains-cold

    -The cleft palate was unrepaired (though I've noticed that this doesn't say if the lip was itself fixed, which does happen sometimes, though no way to tell from the skull if it was soft tissue only. Also, have just read that in 25% of children born with a cleft, it can be just the palate and not the lip).

    -Body was located "on Highway 135, south of Swamp City Road in the Gladewater area."

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    I wonder why her new image is not uploaded into Namus?

    I hope they do this soon...

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    I would think that they would compare her to Susan Cooke (the only person I could find in Namus that had Cleft lip listed in her medical conditions). Both the UID and Susan have DNA so I assume by default that would mean there wasn't a match, right?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23251/0/

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    I don't she is white. I think she is Hispanic. Cleft palates are more dominant in Hispanics and it's Texas. Not to sound politically incorrect but the fact that she didn't have her palate fixed suggest she was poor.

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    Sue Laimer has a scar from her left lip to nostril from plastic surgery. At 5'5" and 128 lbs she went missing March of 2001. At 42 she may be too old to be considered.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/laimer_sue.html

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8028/38/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDMike View Post
    I don't she is white. I think she is Hispanic. Cleft palates are more dominant in Hispanics and it's Texas. Not to sound politically incorrect but the fact that she didn't have her palate fixed suggest she was poor.
    But most Hispanics have a more prominent upper mandible than this one shows. I have a lot of Hispanic relatives. Not saying you are at all wrong. Just going by my relatives. I'm sure there are lots that don't. I just haven't encountered any...
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