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    MD - Hagerstown, Male Skeletal UP12738, 30-60, in Marsh Run, May'14

    http://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/...a4bcf6878.html

    “We only had one missing person case, and (the skeletal remains) did not match,” Sheriff Douglas Mullendore said Friday. “There is not much to update. The autopsy has been performed, and we are waiting for the final results .... It could take months and even longer.”

    The sheriff’s office said mushroom hunters found a human skeleton lying in the water at Marsh Run on Sunday. The discovery was made in the area of Loose Lane off Old Forge Road.

    Mullendore said human tissue and pieces of clothing were found on parts of the skeleton. He said authorities were able to determine the remains were those of a male.
    The location is just north of Antietam Creek and not far from the Pennsylvania state line.

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    Hagerstown is roughly 120 miles from LA Plata, MD, where Robert Lee Hourihan's car was found. Wishful thinking on my part, I'm sure, but I really wish he could be found.

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    "...lying in the water at Marsh Run on Sunday. The discovery was made in the area of Loose Lane off Old Forge Road."

    Marsh Run is a small river or stream that runs south into the Antietam River. The wooded area is bounded by Loose Lane on the west and Old Forge Road on the east. Here's the location on a map: https://goo.gl/maps/vLEpt

    In a more zoomed-out view, you can see that this is on the outskirts of Hagerstown: https://goo.gl/maps/2eJFb
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    http://www.tribtown.com/view/story/8...-Remains-Found

    The Washington County Sheriff's Office is releasing a description of human remains found in a wooded area near Hagerstown last month in hopes that someone can help identify the man.

    The agency said Wednesday that investigators believe the decomposed remains are those of a white male in his early 50s, approximately 6 feet tall. The skull shows evidence of an old fracture on the left side of the face that was medically treated.

    The body was dressed in red shorts, black undershorts, and a green- or blue-and-yellow striped, short-sleeve shirt.
    http://www.your4state.com/story/d/st...MESLb55e1uw5mQ

    Officials say an approximate weight was not able to be determined based on the condition of the body. The remains were in the elements between six and 15 months, officials report.

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    Six to fifteen months would be somewhere between approximately January to November 2013. Given the shorts, I would say summer of 2013 is most likely.
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    The combination of red shorts and a green/blue and yellow striped shirt seems a bit unusual for a 50 year old man. It could be a clue to his identity.
    Please be aware that what I type is my opinion.

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    http://www.your4state.com/story/d/st...xkmovzzSQVAH7g

    "Really hoping that this 2D composite sparks something in someone's mind and they say hey i recognize that, that looks familiar and we're able to identify this individual," said DFC. Carly Hose, Washington County Sheriff's Office...

    Deputies said there is a possibility of a scar present on his left temple, due to the aged injury which was present on the skull. The man would have received medical treatment in reference to this injury.

    Investigators believe Marsh Run may have been the final resting place for the remains, but not where the remains were initially deposited. "Marsh Run comes out of Pennsylvania so there's a possibility that his body was put into the run or somehow come into the run up in Pennsylvania and washed its way down to Maryland," said DFC. Hose.

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    Just on resemblance, I'd say Robert Mayer looks pretty good. And he does appear to have something going on on the end of his left eyebrow.

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/mayer_robert.html

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    The clothing description doesn't match though.

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    Interesting article about Mayer's disappearance:

    http://pix11.com/2014/02/25/mother-a...hat-she-knows/

    Mayer’s mother–and other sources–revealed to PIX 11 that Robert Mayer, an electrician with the Local 3 union, was struggling with prescription drug use. His mother said in the late 1990’s, he had fallen from a roof at Elmhurst Hospital, “landed on a pipe, broke every one of his ribs, and he was put on pain medication.”

    An accident like that might have accounted for the head injury as well, but you'd think they would have mentioned the broken ribs. It also quotes his sister as saying he took his shotgun.

    This article mentions that his possessions, including the money he got for the scrap metal, were found around the house. http://pix11.com/2014/02/13/surveill...dad-exclusive/

    Opening up a closet door, she pointed to the spot where she discovered his wallet. Another drawer held the $300 in cash, later tied to the Arrow Scrap center. On the floor, Mayer’s tool bag was filled with his supplies, along with two, new pairs of eyeglasses he’d recently purchased.

    Which leaves me with the question of whether you can get to Marsh Run, either in MD or upstream, via railroad.
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    I live near DC and Hagerstown has always been known for having a huge drug problem, most notably prescriptions and heroin. It would be far for Robert Mayer to travel but he could have been taken and dumped there, or decided it was worth the drive to score a good deal. Stranger things have happened. But aside from Baltimore, if you want to score drugs in Maryland, Hagerstown would be on the top of the list.

    I know of several cases where people drive several hours to buy drugs. So IMO it could certainly be him.

    Has Robert Mayer been submitted? I don't know how to do it.


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    The description of his behavior and the fact his shotgun was missing makes me think suicide is a possibility as well. Some people do go pretty far outside their home territory to end it, so there's no danger of the family finding the body.
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    I ran this mans composite on Never Forget Me. Several people told me they believe he is this man.

    http://texasequusearch.org/2013/09/m...ook-ct-072813/

    I did call him in, just in case they are correct.

    ETA: Got a call back from Hagerstown Maryland, Robert Hoagland has already been ruled out
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    Debora Sue Lowe - Age 13, missing from Pompano, FL since February 29, 1972 (Leap Year)
    Missing Child Haunts Family Nearly 40 Years Later - 9/19/2011
    White Female
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Brown
    Height: 5’6″
    Weight: 125 lbs
    Debbie is believed to have been a victim of the serial killer Gerard John Schaefer Jr. He was convicted of only two murders in the 1970s but is believed to be responsible for the murders and disappearances of many other girls and young women in the 60s and 70s, including Wendy Stevenson, Peggy Rahn ,Carmen Hallock, Pamela Nater and Nancy Leichner in 1966.


    • Everything I write is JMHO and NO OFFENSE is INTENDED

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    Any update on him and mayer?

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    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12738

    No ruleouts listed on his Namus page.
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