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    WI - Barbara Nelson, 34, Elkhorn, 5 Aug 1982

    I am titling this thread The Studebaker Pickup Truck Killers

    (1) because of where the body was found,

    (2) because of an organization linking Dane County (county where robbery/abduction took place) and Walworth County (place where body was found and where the victim was probably murdered),

    (3) and because the killers were driving a uniquely-styled Studebaker pickup truck; more than likely a 1961 Studebaker pickup truck, based on descriptions given by witnesses at the convenience store/gas station and the site where the body was found.

    On the afternoon of August 5, 1982, Barbara Nelson, the mother of a three year old girl, was working alone at the Mini Stop-N-Shop convenience store off of Highway 51 in the Town of Albion, Dane County, Wisconsin, which is near Edgerton, Wisconsin.

    Her partially-decomposed body was discovered five days later on August 10, 1982, in a cornfield on Bray Road, which is about 3 miles east of Elkhorn, in Walworth County, Wisconsin. Elkhorn, Wisconsin is about 40-45 miles southeast of Albion, WI.

    According to news sources, there are 10 persons of interest in this robbery/abduction/murder. DNA evidence from the crime scene has been recently submitted to the crime lab and will be used to narrow down the list of suspects.

    There is some very unique evidence in this 31 year old cold case that may possibly help solve the murder of an innocent mother of a three old girl.
    Last edited by scorpionsting; 05-16-2014 at 03:32 PM. Reason: revising

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    Side Note

    If you continue east on Bray Road, you will run into Bowers Road. Go left (North) on Bowers Road a couple miles and you will come to the site of where another murder victim, who died from blunt force trauma to the head, was found on March 26, 2002 along Bowers Road, which is about a mile from the Alpine Valley Music Theater.

    The white male was identified in 2009 as Daniel M. Walden of South Beloit, who had been reported missing in 1998. No known connections to the two murders.

    http://www.communityshoppers.com/New...-persons-cases

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    Suspect #1

    Suspect #1

    http://danedocs.countyofdane.com/web...nd_Vehicle.pdf
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    Suspect #2

    Suspect #2

    http://danedocs.countyofdane.com/web...nd_Vehicle.pdf
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    Sketches of truck

    These are sketches of the truck believed to be a 1961 Studebaker pickup truck.

    The detectives say suspects were developed throughout the years with witnesses offering descriptions of two men...and accounts of a dark green or blue, older model pickup, seen at the store.

    "It's a very unique looking truck, and I think the bedrail extending up at a 45 degree angle is quite significant along with the bleached area on the driver's side door," Pederson Honer says.
    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...115520589.html

    http://danedocs.countyofdane.com/web...nd_Vehicle.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleutherforlife View Post
    If you continue east on Bray Road, you will run into Bowers Road. Go left (North) on Bowers Road a couple miles and you will come to the site of where another murder victim, who died from blunt force trauma to the head, was found on March 26, 2002 along Bowers Road, which is about a mile from the Alpine Valley Music Theater.

    The white male was identified in 2009 as Daniel M. Walden of South Beloit, who had been reported missing in 1998. No known connections to the two murders.

    http://www.communityshoppers.com/New...-persons-cases
    Actually, I'd like to correct where the body of Nelson was found. From a Google map it was found just before where Bray Rd. & Hwy 11 intersect. Bowers Rd. is only a couple hundred feet east. You can match the silo in the picture with the silo on Google.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/El...2a8d409c42f77f
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    Evidence

    The JC Penny T-shirt...did it belong to one of the killers? It was found near the body.

    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...l?device=phone

    Also significant...a bleach-stained, JCPenney t-shirt found near her body along Bray Road.

    "This t-shirt, in particular, is very unique. This is not a t-shirt that just anyone would have in their drawer at home back in 1982," Pederson Honer says.
    It would be nice if they had a sharper lighter image and told us why this t-shirt is unique. Who's the manufacturer?

    An investigator stated that the shirt might have been bought at a nearby JC Penny store, which sold that specific type of shirt.

    I wonder what kind of job, if any, uses bleach, where it would get splashed on a shirt like that? Unless, maybe they used the bleach and the T-shirt to clean up blood from off the floor of the pickup truck or the bed of the pickup?

    The T-shirt certainly appears to be covered with blood.

    It's possible that there was also a tarp over the contents of the bed of the truck, including the victim, until they got to where they disposed of her.

    She was shot four times with a .22, but there was no statement released whether she was shot at the scene where her body was found or whether she was shot elsewhere, including shot while in the pickup.

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    The bleached area on the truck

    The bleached area on the truck...

    "It's a very unique looking truck, and I think the bedrail extending up at a 45 degree angle is quite significant along with the bleached area on the driver's side door," Pederson Honer says.
    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...l?device=phone

    What did she mean by "bleached"? Was it faded from the sun? Did a business sign used to be attached to the door and the rest of the area around where the sign used to be appear to be bleached? Or was some type of paint thinner or solvent used to remove lettering or residue from a sign being attached to the driver's door at some time in the past? Or, was it bleached because bleach was used to remove blood from the door?

    Does bleach damage paint?
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    The Studebaker pickup truck color

    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...l?device=phone

    The detectives say suspects were developed throughout the years with witnesses offering descriptions of two men...and accounts of a dark green or blue, older model pickup, seen at the store.

    "It's a very unique looking truck, and I think the bedrail extending up at a 45 degree angle is quite significant along with the bleached area on the driver's side door," Pederson Honer says.
    1959 Studebaker truck color chart...
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    1961 Studebaker pickup truck paint sample...

    1961 Studebaker pickup truck paint sample...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleutherforlife View Post
    The bleached area on the truck...



    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...l?device=phone

    What did she mean by "bleached"? Was it faded from the sun? Did a business sign used to be attached to the door and the rest of the area around where the sign used to be appear to be bleached? Or was some type of paint thinner or solvent used to remove lettering or residue from a sign being attached to the driver's door at some time in the past? Or, was it bleached because bleach was used to remove blood from the door?

    Does bleach damage paint?
    The description also mentioned primer on the driver's door section almost as if there used to be lettering/sign on the door which was sanded off and then primed. Here's a closeup of that section which encompasses almost the whole lower panel. Also attached is a picture of a red 1961 Studebaker pickup truck. Note the section of the door that extends out almost as far as the windshield. That is not depicted in the sketches.
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    The vest

    The victim was found wearing this vest. As you can also see from the crime scene photograph, it's another poor-quality photograph. You can barely make out the lower front pockets and the epaulettes. Otherwise, you can't tell if it's a camo or OD green vest. Does it have snaps, zippers, buttons, Velcro, what?

    The vest may or may not have been worn by one of the killers. I posted a photo of the crime scene vest and another vintage OD green vest with epaulettes that looks similar. I don't know if this is exactly identical to the one on the victim. I think the PD needs to take this vest and the T-shirt out of mothballs, re-photograph them and then post a better description alongside another identical T-shirt and vest if they expect someone to recognize them.

    Two critical pieces of evidence never before disclosed -- a vest ... perhaps part of a uniform. It was found on Nelson's body.

    "It's foreign to Barbara. This is not her item of clothing, and it's a significant factor in this case," she says.
    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...l?device=phone

    Another thing to wonder about; the victim wasn't sexually assaulted but was found clad in only her undergarments and this polyester vest, which may have belonged to one of the killers. Why? Was there blood on her clothing that might have attracted attention while she was in the pickup truck?

    Why kidnap her at all? Did she recognize them? Insurance in case they were caught?
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    More evidence...the jack stand

    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/...l?device=phone

    But Craig also wants help identifying another item.

    "It's the base of a car jack that you jack up a car with."

    It was found with Nelson's shoes... several miles from her body. Its only distinguishing characteristic... a vague u-shape.

    "We don't know what kind of car it's for."

    Both locations where evidence was gathered sit in the shadow of Alpine Valley...host to a Grateful Dead concert a couple of days after the murder.
    Why was it thrown out? Was it covered with blood? Where's a picture of it? A car buff somewhere will recognize what vehicle it came from. Why were these items thrown out later? One last check to get rid of evidence? If so, where the items were thrown out is significant in that it's a partial trail leading to their final destination.

    Was it a home-made jack stand or commercially made? What were the markings on it, if any?

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    Robbery Abduction Scene

    The robbery abduction was at Mini Stop-N-Shop convenience store off of Highway 51 in the Town of Albion, Dane County, Wisconsin, which is near Edgerton, Wisconsin.

    The gas station/convenience store is now closed.
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    Studebaker National Museum

    Fortunately, the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend can provide a copy of the original production order for most post-War Studebaker vehicles. These list both the vehicle serial number and the engine serial number, and are usually sufficient to convince a motor vehicle department to correct incorrect registration data.
    http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com...uckHistory.asp

    I wonder if law enforcement ever pursued the above avenue of discovery, considering, of course, that the original production order contained both the color of the truck and the buyer's name? Assuming this is a Wisconsin pickup truck used in the robbery/abduction/murder, the list shouldn't be too long?

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