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    General Discussions #5

    continue general discussion here please

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    Could it be that they're not too worried about him fleeing right now with the embezzlement charges hanging over his head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    Could it be that they're not too worried about him fleeing right now with the embezzlement charges hanging over his head?
    Yes, that could well be. Is the embezzlement the only criminal problem he has ever had? Or does he have other criminal activity in his past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timex
    Yes, that could well be. Is the embezzlement the only criminal problem he has ever had? Or does he have other criminal activity in his past?
    It was posted here that there was charges filed for attacking a referee. One of our members was going to see if they could find the paperwork regarding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    Could it be that they're not too worried about him fleeing right now with the embezzlement charges hanging over his head?
    I've often wondered, and this is truly dramatic speculation LOL, if LE has not said anything in a while, as they know he has a court date this week...and they have been working both angles, murder and embezzlement, and if any big dramatic thing will happen before, during, or after the hearing on Friday.

    (Ok, stop laughing! I know it sounds like TV material! LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthEastSleuth

    (Ok, stop laughing! I know it sounds like TV material! LOL)
    I want to watch that episode!

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    Thanks...trying to get a "feel" of what he could expect from the embezzlement issue.

    First time offender...not a large amount of money etc...would he be facing jail time? Or restitution and probation?

    If there are other criminal issues, it could effect the outcome of the embezzlement charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timex
    Thanks...trying to get a "feel" of what he could expect from the embezzlement issue.

    First time offender...not a large amount of money etc...would he be facing jail time? Or restitution and probation?

    If there are other criminal issues, it could effect the outcome of the embezzlement charges.
    Timex, I did some research on this awhile back and posted. Under NORMAL circumstances he would get probation, community service, repayment of embezzled amount, and fines. He could face time, but more than likely not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    It was posted here that there was charges filed for attacking a referee. One of our members was going to see if they could find the paperwork regarding it.
    Ok GM! That was an none to subtle reminder! LOL

    That member was ME!

    And, I did indeed check. And then completely forgot about it, because it yielded me nothing (but a big ol' waste of two hours of my time! LOL).

    IF that (referee assault) happened in Durham County, there is no record of it whatsoever. Now that said, it could have easily been in one of the neigboring counties, Orange or Wake. Those I did NOT check.

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    It was better the first time I typed it before realizing the thread had been closed!!

    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    That's an interesting observation! Mine was he didn't just want to fit in, but he wanted to be crowned the King of VXers. Remember, he found them because he wanted to figure out how to get rid of his PoS vehicle that he now hated, he FORCED Janet to drive it because he didn't want to. Then he discovered THE CLUB and bought every accessory and REPAINTED it black (see Big Boy Toys) so he would have the purtiest VX in the world.
    But see, I think that this illustrates my point even more. He wanted to dump that car. Then when he found out that there was this web site, and he started to chat, he decided to keep the car and make it better and better so he could become a part of this "club". He did what he felt he had to do to become a part of the club; to be a part of SOMETHING.

    He almost reminds me of a child in this situation, and here is the scenario. Did you ever have a child say something like "I hate broccoli", (or this movie, this book, this song, etc), and you as the parent say "Really? I LOVE broccoli". So then the kid says "Well, I don't really HATE it ..." Before you know it, the kid is asking for broccoli for dinner, (or watching the movie, reading the book for the 3rd time, singing the song, etc.) I've seen this HUNDREDS of times with all types of children. It's almost as if they say that they like what we like just to try to please us. Maybe Raven wanted to please them with his amazing VX so that he would be welcomed with open arms into their club.

    He started out wanting to dump the car, then after spending some time at the site & "talking" to people, he started to modify the car little by little, and by the end of it, he's talking about how they are all part of a unique club or some such nonsense.

    "Be the change you wish to see in the world."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthEastSleuth
    Ok GM! That was an none to subtle reminder! LOL

    That member was ME!

    And, I did indeed check. And then completely forgot about it, because it yielded me nothing (but a big ol' waste of two hours of my time! LOL).
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    Sorry SES! I thought the check date was scheduled a little later this week ... LOL! But honestly, it doesn't even have to be in NC. What if it happened in Virginia?

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    Regarding SES's LE procedural question on discussion 4

    I think Timex is right, that they can't tell you not to leave the area if you have not been charged with anything. As long as his attorney knows where to contact him, he can go anywhere he wants. I'll double check with some friends in LE, though laws may vary from state to state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    Sorry SES! I thought the check date was scheduled a little later this week ... LOL! But honestly, it doesn't even have to be in NC. What if it happened in Virginia?
    True! And unless we had a location, it'd be really hard to verify... Could be anywhere in NC, VA, or who knows where else. A lot of the soccer leagues play in tournaments, etc., all over a state, and even out of state, quite often actually!

    (You're right, I was going down there later in the week...but was in the neighborhood and stopped! I was just giving you a little grief...you know that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyGirl
    But see, I think that this illustrates my point even more. ............

    He started out wanting to dump the car, then after spending some time at the site & "talking" to people, he started to modify the car little by little, and by the end of it, he's talking about how they are all part of a unique club or some such nonsense.
    I never meant to disagree with you
    because I actually agree that he was desperate to fit in
    but, he wasn't satisfied just being a regular ole guy in the club
    he wanted to be KING of the club
    with the most tricked out limited edition collector's version VX

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    JerseyGirl,

    Ive known guys just like that. They weren't really "bad" guys, just guys that for whatever reason cant/wont grow-up.

    That said, I certainly wouldnt want to be married to one, as the problems would be never ending.

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