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    Judge's Order re: OP's Mental Health Eval Thread #42

    Oscar Pistorius: South Africa gears up for its 'trial of the century'

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    Judge's Order re: OP's Mental Health Eval Thread #42

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    From previous thread:

    Thank you minor4th for answering earlier , i find it difficult to see how the judge , in believing OP's version would still be able to consider the ear-witness testimonies as reliable...unless your line of reasoning is that she would consider Burger and husband only heard OP and not RS , at any point ,and Van Der Mewre yes heard a female voice at 1:56 but it wasn't RS and so forth....

    Is that what you were saying? Just interested in how you are seeing this.

    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriLondon View Post
    From previous thread:

    Thank you minor4th for answering earlier , i find it difficult to see how the judge , in believing OP's version would still be able to consider the ear-witness testimonies as reliable...unless your line of reasoning is that she would consider Burger's and husband's only heard OP and not RS , at any point ,and Van Der Mewre yes heard a female voice at 1:56 but it wasn't RS and so forth....

    Is that what you were saying? Just interested how you are seeing this.

    Thank you

    She's going to have to reject some portions of ear witness testimony and reconcile it with he physical evidence. I don't know how the judge will come out on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    She's going to have to reject some portions of ear witness testimony and reconcile it with he physical evidence. I don't know how the judge will come out on this.
    Ditto with OP's testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greater Than View Post
    Ditto with OP's testimony.
    Not just toss some of his testimony but a good chunk of it, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greater Than View Post
    Ditto with OP's testimony.

    Yes, I agree.


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    Today I returned an item to Sears. I stood in line for quite a while under the direct gaze of a lovely blonde model WHO LOOKED JUST LIKE REEVA! She was standing in a meadow, dressed in summer clothes, looking directly into the camera.

    The slogan over her head said "Forever Free." I fought tears back for almost 15 minutes and finally had to leave.

    It seems to me that the longer the trial lasts, the victim begins to fade away and before us is the murderer, alive in color... suffering. It almost begs for us to project our feelings about "poor Reeva" and make them "Poor Oscar," especially since something can be done about Oscar and Reeva is gone forever.

    It bugs the hell out of me that Masipa was smiling and so happy after the announcement. Is she glad both sides are happy now or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    She's going to have to reject some portions of ear witness testimony and reconcile it with he physical evidence. I don't know how the judge will come out on this.
    How the judge will come out on this??


    well.. Masipa, and the two Assessors, whose job it is to brings the Facts of the matter to Masipa, who then applies the Law to the Facts precludes any wondering at all as to how Judge Masipa will 'come out' on this. It isn't an either / or situation. That's what she, and they, the Assessors are there for.. their mandate does not include them suspending their powers of logic or reason , or to reject ear witnesses testimony to reconcile with the physical evidence. .not much problem there.

    Reconciling the ear witnesses testimony with the Testimony of the Accused , and the reverse , is where the worry( for those inclined to worry about this ) will begin, and end, with the detailed judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper View Post
    How the judge will come out on this??





    well.. Masipa, and the two Assessors, whose job it is to brings the Facts of the matter to Masipa, who then applies the Law to the Facts precludes any wondering at all as to how Judge Masipa will 'come out' on this. It isn't an either / or situation. That's what she, and they, the Assessors are there for.. their mandate does not include them suspending their powers of logic or reason , or to reject ear witnesses testimony to reconcile with the physical evidence. .not much problem there.



    Reconciling the ear witnesses testimony with the Testimony of the Accused , and the reverse , is where the worry( for those inclined to worry about this ) will begin, and end, with the detailed judgement.


    No one knows what the judge will accept and what she will reject from the testimony. Not even you

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    No one knows what the judge will accept and what she will reject from the testimony. Not even you
    no one knows why she would reject earwitness testimony on a whim to fit a variation of versions by the accused, .. not even you have an explanation for that.

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