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    CA - Helendale, Fem UP906, 15-22, in desert, missing toes, Sep'02

    Starting a new thread at the request of Houston Mom.


    The Doe Network:
    Hot Case 1095
    http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1095.html
    NamUs UP 906 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/906

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    The victim was discovered on September 5, 2002 in Helendale, San Bernardino County, California (GPS Coord: N 34º 46.238' W 117º 18.772' --- 4 mile EO Wild Rd. & 395 ft. NO dirt Rd.)

    Estimated Date of Death: 2 months - 2.5 years prior to discovery
    Manner of Death: Homicide
    State of Remains: Partial Skeleton

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 15-22 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 4'11"-5'2".
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish-brown hair. Her race is undetermined, there appeared to be a mixture of characteristics. She had had at least one pregnancy and wore braces. The 2nd through 5th toes of her left foot appear to have been missing long before death. It is unknown if this was a congenital condition, or if she suffered some kind of injury requiring surgery.

    Clothing: White blazer (cotton blend), size Large, 3-button style. Pockets each front panel lower portion. Light tan or white, faded top with shoulder pads (No clothing tag: torn or cut off). Light colored, lace "Celebrity" bra, with under wiring. Black or dark-brown boots - described as Western-style half-boots, low heel, tapered toe, above ankle. Leather with cloth panel at rim that allow stretch. Four stitched ribs across toe. The shoes are of a style reminiscent of the 1980's.

    Dentals: Braces present. Dental chart and X-rays are on file with the California Department of Justice, Missing/Unidentified Persons Unit. Possible comparison with "smiling photographs" (showing teeth).
    DNA: Complete - nucDNA Profile available in FBI NMPDD (refer to CODIS #BK-03-000462).

    Case History

    Jane Doe #13-02 was found as skeletonized/mummified remains in an open desert area of remote community west of Barstow, CA., on September 5, 2002. Death is estimated to have occurred as recently as two months prior, and as early as 2000 (2.5 years prior). She is young, probably between the ages of 15 and 22 years, with reddish-brown hair, and her stature was estimated to be between 4€™ 11€ and 5€™ 2€. Her race is undetermined; there appeared to be a mixture of characteristics. She had had at least one pregnancy and wore braces. She was the victim of homicide. Identity may only be established with dental X-rays (on file and see attached), head X-rays, and DNA (refer to CODIS #BK-03-000462). Possible comparison with "smiling photographs" (showing teeth).

    Identity may only be established with dental X-rays and DNA.

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    Date is way off (1994) but it could be possible that she lived on after her last seen date.

    Malisa Kerr - Age 19
    Missing from - Nevada
    Height - 60"/61"
    Hair - Brown/Auburn
    Other physical features - Reference to surgical scar on left leg AND wore braces.
    Race - Asian or Pacific Islander

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/15196/1/

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    Good find shadowdancer. An email address is located under Malisa's profile.
    For I the Lord thy God will hold they right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. ~Is 41:13

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    I never get any response when emailing.

    If anyone else can ring up/email that would be fantastic, does anyone have a contact who could help?
    Last edited by shadowdancer; 06-07-2014 at 06:23 PM.

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    Doe Network says "The shoes are of a style reminiscent of the 1980's."

    So is the white blazer and shirt with shoulder pads, imo. NamUs says "Long-legging bl" - wonder if it's something to do with pants but got left off?

    I'm wondering if she was there way longer than 2.5 years. Unless she was headed to an 80s party or something.

    Malisa looks like a good possible, Shadowdancer! I'm wondering if her Asian/Pacific Islander ancestry is mixed with Caucasian (Kerr surname) - maybe that particular combination made it difficult to make a good guess on race for the UID.

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    Well, the half-boots came back into style about then, but the shoulder pads didn't.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Sure wish we could see a photo of those boots - they sound pretty distinctive!

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    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Francheska Martinez went missing from New Jersey June 9, 2000. She was 4'7", 120 lbs. She had braces on her teeth.

    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/888232/1#poster

    Nevermind, DNA available on UID and Missing Francheska.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6352/41/
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    Last edited by Houston Mom; 06-08-2014 at 10:19 AM.
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    Ashley Norah went missing June 1, 2002. At 5'1" and 110 lbs with braces on her teeth, She should be considered.

    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1165863/1#poster

    Nevermind, DNA available on both UID and Ashley.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9345/0/
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    Last edited by Houston Mom; 06-08-2014 at 10:17 AM.
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    Laura Ayala missing from Houston, Texas. Had braces during her March 2002 disappearance. Doesn't even have a NamUs profile as well as DNA.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/ayala_laura.html

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    Melissa Fadden missing since 1997 from Lowell, Massachusetts. Had braces at the time of her disappearance. No DNA in NamUs.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...n_melissa.html

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4663/0/

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    Jessie Peters missing since 1996 from Glendale, California. Had braces at the time of her disappearance. No NamUs profile.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...rs_jessie.html

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    Like annemc2, I think that bearing in mind the clothing that the UID was wearing, I really have to wonder about the timescale given.

    There is a question that I have wanted to ask for a long while on here, although I am not sure if anyone will be able to answer it. But here goes - Imagine if someone kills a person and stores the body in a fridge or freezer for years before later dumping the body outside somewhere. The body is not discovered until it has become skeletonised.
    Would the folks doing the post-mortem be able to tell that the body had been frozen/stored in a fridge?
    Last edited by shadowdancer; 06-08-2014 at 02:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowdancer View Post
    Like annemc2, I think that bearing in mind the clothing that the UID was wearing, I really have to wonder about the timescale given.

    There is a question that I have wanted to ask for a long while on here, although I am not sure if anyone will be able to answer it. But here goes - Imagine if someone kills a person and stores the body in a fridge or freezer for years before later dumping the body outside somewhere. The body is not discovered until it has become skeletonised.
    Would the folks doing the post-mortem be able to tell that the body had been frozen/stored in a fridge?
    They would be able to tell if it was found shortly after being taken out of the fridge. But probably not 1-2 years after being taken out of the fridge.

    But I think it would be easier to just figure that the estimated postmortem interval was wrong, than it would be to try to rationalize that the body might have been stored in a cooler.

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