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    Child forced to urinate in seat of plane

    http://m.nydailynews.com/news/nation...icle-1.1829774

    A Massachusetts mom is furious with JetBlue after her 3-year-old daughter had to urinate in her seat, all because a flight attendant wouldn't let her use the plane's bathroom, she claims.

    Jennifer Deveraux said the pilot even threatened to report her to security when she tried to clean up the mess.

    "It wasn't about bad customer service at that point," Deveraux told CBS Boston. "It was about bad human decency. My daughter was sitting in a pool of urine and I couldn't do anything about it,"


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    I'm sure there is more to the story, that it was a matter of unfortunate timing. Who with a three year old has not experienced that? You just hope and pray you make it to the potty on time.

    The FAA has strict rules about passengers remaining in their seats at certain times during the flight. I'm betting when all is said and done that this occurred at one of those times and said mom demanded that she get her way. When she didn't, it was all the airlines fault.

    That might not be true, but I'm betting it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killarney rose View Post
    I'm sure there is more to the story, that it was a matter of unfortunate timing. Who with a three year old has not experienced that? You just hope and pray you make it to the potty on time.

    The FAA has strict rules about passengers remaining in their seats at certain times during the flight. I'm betting when all is said and done that this occurred at one of those times and said mom demanded that she get her way. When she didn't, it was all the airlines fault.

    That might not be true, but I'm betting it is.

    I've HAD to go during one of those times. I just got up and went. I did get the stink eye from a flight attendant.

    Which is nothing like the look I would have got had I remained in my seat!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    I've HAD to go during one of those times. I just got up and went. I did get the stink eye from a flight attendant.

    Which is nothing like the look I would have got had I remained in my seat!


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    If you just got up and went, and quietly returned to your seat, they probably understood and let it go. Another case of bad timing. What were they gonna do, drag you out of the potty?

    I'm sure it had a lot to do with the moms attitude. That is the vibe I get from the article.

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    I don't get that vibe. We have no idea what Mom's attitude is or was.

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    Well, sensationalized headline....one can take it as child forced to urinate in seat.......well technically she was, but the reality was, unless mom pulled her pants down and sat her on the seat, and told her to go, the reality was.....she did as many three year olds...had an accident because she couldn't wait because she had to go at an inopportune time.

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    My fam and I are boycotting Jetblue ......

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    Unfortunate, but hard to avoid with a three year old.

    Do you have to go potty?
    No.
    Okay...

    I mean I don't know how long between potty breaks-it could have been quite a long time. But geez, three year-olds have accidents. Not everything is a thing.

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    I remember when a toddler's potty accident wasn't newsworthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killarney rose View Post
    Well, sensationalized headline....one can take it as child forced to urinate in seat.......well technically she was, but the reality was, unless mom pulled her pants down and sat her on the seat, and told her to go, the reality was.....she did as many three year olds...had an accident because she couldn't wait because she had to go at an inopportune time.

    I'm no toddler and when I have to go, I have to go. I would also be furious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    I'm no toddler and when I have to go, I have to go. I would also be furious.


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    I do totally get that....I do. I seriously thought I was going to burst on a flight that was circling an airport once...by some small grace I made it, but it was a close thing. I think I was about 24 at the time. But really, anyone who has ever traveled knows, especially after 9/11 is that you follow the rules. We may not like it, but it is the way it is.

    I'm sorry that this mom and her little girl were embarrassed or felt like they were victimized, but the little girls have accidents and if you're told to stay in your seat on an airplane, you pretty much have to, for your safety and the safety of others.

    I just don't see this as some kind of anti-family discrimination or something like that. The pilot says everyone must stay in their seat, the flight attendants are instructed to follow this protocol. I can imagine that the flight attendant doing her job would be slightly irritated having to tell someone over and over to please stay seated. I can't fault her for not smiling like a loon or being sugary sweet when the request was repeatedly ignored. It's not a "customer service issue" it's a safety issue.

    A small child's accident is not newsworthy or debate worthy. A little child having an potty accident is not a medical emergency, had it been the airline staff could have handled it differently, since it WAS not, and they did not, I do not see a issue here.

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    Maybe she'll put a pull-up on her next time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catchy kitty View Post
    Maybe she'll put a pull-up on her next time..

    I will not be putting on any pull up!

    They were on the tarmac ...sitting there. Not doing a darn thing, not even taxiing.
    I see no safety issue. The other pilot flying as a passenger on the plane saw nothing wrong with it.


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    I fly a lot, and so I know that flight attendants can get into a fair bit of trouble if they do not caution/prohibit passengers from leaving their seats at some points during a flight. There are also quasi-passengers, if I can coin the term, who are aboard some flights partly to ensure that protocols are met: e.g., marshals, service evaluators, etc. Those folks are there in part to ensure that the crew follows the rules. If someone wants to break the rules they instate, and they do nothing to respond to them, well, the flight crew is in big trouble, and it's usually a 1-strike-you're out situation.

    Aside from all of that, I would contend that there are basic realities about travel. Not talking about this case or any in particular. Perhaps it would be a good idea for people going on flights to urinate before they board. Perhaps it would be advised that one shouldn't consume a number of juice boxes before they board a flight.

    This was a short flight, and it did actually have toilet facilities. I actually think that is a luxury, in a way, as I often take flights that are 4-5 times longer in aircraft having no bathroom facilities whatsoever (and yes, there are sometimes kids on board). Passengers in need have to (forgive my language) pee or poo into a bag in the cargo hold if they so need. Or use their pants. (Fortunately, neither happens often.)

    Again, JMO, but if a kid (or adult) pees or poops her/himself on a flight (or basically farts for an entire flight), I think that most people will just think, well, so be it.

    I don't mean to blame the parent or child here, but I definitely don't want to blame the flight attendant. For those who would say that they would just defy her/him and go to the bathroom regardless, well, you might just cost the flight attendant her/his job.

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    I can imagine some smartazzed childless flight attendant saying NO BATHROOM AT THIS TIME.... ugh. 2 and 3 years cant hold it in.

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