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    Questions and Hopefully Answers in the Cooper Harris Case

    I'm watching the probable cause hearing. I heard testimony that he spoke with his wife on the phone at 4:04 p.m.. Was that before he "found" Cooper? Was it after he texted her about when she was picking up "his buddy" from daycare?
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    It was before he "found" Cooper, but we aren't sure about the text about his little buddy. That was mentioned by the Defense only. This is my understanding, but folks can correct me if I'm wrong.
    Just my opinion anyway... cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sariebell View Post
    It was before he "found" Cooper, but we aren't sure about the text about his little buddy. That was mentioned by the Defense only. This is my understanding, but folks can correct me if I'm wrong.
    Thanks!!! So he talks to his wife and then finds his kid dead!
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    Allegedly. But that convo with LH was only 1 minute. Could have been a "it's go time", "I got lightbulbs", "going to movie"... who knows? It seems like she's involved, but that is merely speculation based on her odd behavior at this point. We who have been reading about these pieces of work since the JonBenet days and before usually can count on their "hinky meters" as being spot on, though.
    Just my opinion anyway... cheers!

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    Did Leanna Harris tell police about the 4:04 p.m. phone call between them and if so, what did they discuss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    I'm watching the probable cause hearing. I heard testimony that he spoke with his wife on the phone at 4:04 p.m.. Was that before he "found" Cooper? Was it after he texted her about when she was picking up "his buddy" from daycare?
    My understanding is the text was at 3:16 and the (one minute) call at 4:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    Did Leanna Harris tell police about the 4:04 p.m. phone call between them and if so, what did they discuss?
    I don't believe that came up in the hearing.

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    I don't think we can answer that as I don't think it was asked or answered at the hearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    I'm watching the probable cause hearing. I heard testimony that he spoke with his wife on the phone at 4:04 p.m.. Was that before he "found" Cooper? Was it after he texted her about when she was picking up "his buddy" from daycare?

    According to his defense attorney RH sent that text to LH at 3:16 pm.

    It didn't show up on the messages on RH phone, so it could have been a google text, or kik, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovejac View Post
    According to his defense attorney RH sent that text to LH at 3:16 pm.

    It didn't show up on the messages on RH phone, so it could have been a google text, or kik, etc.
    Or the text could have been sent from his phone and he then deleted the text. AT&T should be able to recover any deleted texts from that day, though, I think. We may know more in 6-8 weeks when AT&T releases the phone records/data to LE.


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    I've been confused by this and also the chat at 3:45 with his friends saying he'd be late for the movie (since according to his story he didn't yet know Cooper was in the car, and he had plenty of time to get to the movie if he truly hadn't remembered), and something just hit me. This is speculation but it pulls the confusion together in my mind.

    3:16 - RH texts LH asking when she's going to pick up his "buddy". This is according to defense. The police said he didn't see a text but it could have been deleted or sent through another system and they are still going through all that. IMO that text was a signal for her to go to the daycare and he would leave work.

    When he hadn't heard back from her by 3:45 he realizes they are behind their planned schedule and he would be late for the movie so he chats with his buddies and tells them he'll be late.

    JH's phone records show 4 missed calls from LH, they play phone tag and finally connect for a 1 minute call at 4:04. I am speculating that was the response he was waiting for to tell him to leave work because within 10 minutes of that call he leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeSeeker6 View Post
    I've been confused by this and also the chat at 3:45 with his friends saying he'd be late for the movie (since according to his story he didn't yet know Cooper was in the car, and he had plenty of time to get to the movie if he truly hadn't remembered), and something just hit me. This is speculation but it pulls the confusion together in my mind.

    3:16 - RH texts LH asking when she's going to pick up his "buddy". This is according to defense. The police said he didn't see a text but it could have been deleted or sent through another system and they are still going through all that. IMO that text was a signal for her to go to the daycare and he would leave work.

    When he hadn't heard back from her by 3:45 he realizes they are behind their planned schedule and he would be late for the movie so he chats with his buddies and tells them he'll be late.

    JH's phone records show 4 missed calls from LH, they play phone tag and finally connect for a 1 minute call at 4:04. I am speculating that was the response he was waiting for to tell him to leave work because within 10 minutes of that call he leaves.

    JMO
    What I don't understand is about the movies..........Regardless of the time he/she left work, there would be no movies. Why was he concerned about notifying his friends about being late? He was never going to make it to the movies, right? Who goes to the movies the day their kid dies?

    ETA: I understand he had NO intention of going to movies - but why the charade of sending message saying he was going to be late.

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    I think he told them he would be late so they would go on into the movie and not wait around outside for him.

    But it's very curious that he said he would be late when he left early enough to where he shouldn't have been late. So he either knew he was going to "discover" Cooper or he had another stop planned on the way (booty call?).

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    this is just what I have been thinking- it was 'code' for something. If he is going to a movie with his friends... why does he 'care' what time she picks him up, if it their usual routine? Did not say he was going to a movie, (was that set up in advance? If they set it up at lunch, wouldnt he have texted her to tell her he would be going to a movie after work and would not be home? If set up in advance with the friends... no need to ask when she was picking him up.. why would it matter?)

    On the same email topic... did he open any emails that arrived AFTER the one from daycare? But left that one unopened? Did he think it was from Daycare asking about the baby?Did the wife get one as well? ( I would think both parents but I could be wrong) and did SHE open it? ( even if it said something innocent in the subject heading.. like "4th of July schedules" or something) I would think if she opened it, she did not know what was going down ( well, maybe not WHEN...) and thought it might be something she needed to know. Obviously if she knew the baby was dead (or going to be) she would not bother to open it... ( same with him....)

    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeSeeker6 View Post
    I've been confused by this and also the chat at 3:45 with his friends saying he'd be late for the movie (since according to his story he didn't yet know Cooper was in the car, and he had plenty of time to get to the movie if he truly hadn't remembered), and something just hit me. This is speculation but it pulls the confusion together in my mind.

    3:16 - RH texts LH asking when she's going to pick up his "buddy". This is according to defense. The police said he didn't see a text but it could have been deleted or sent through another system and they are still going through all that. IMO that text was a signal for her to go to the daycare and he would leave work.

    When he hadn't heard back from her by 3:45 he realizes they are behind their planned schedule and he would be late for the movie so he chats with his buddies and tells them he'll be late.

    JH's phone records show 4 missed calls from LH, they play phone tag and finally connect for a 1 minute call at 4:04. I am speculating that was the response he was waiting for to tell him to leave work because within 10 minutes of that call he leaves.

    JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownRice View Post
    What I don't understand is about the movies..........Regardless of the time he/she left work, there would be no movies. Why was he concerned about notifying his friends about being late? He was never going to make it to the movies, right? Who goes to the movies the day their kid dies?

    ETA: I understand he had NO intention of going to movies - but why the charade of sending message saying he was going to be late.
    I think this was a subconscious slip-up, him being too clever for his own good ie saying too much which appears to be a habit with him. You're right there was absolutely no reason for him to send that going to be late message except his own guilty knowledge that he wasn't only going to be late he wasn't going to be making it to the movie at all once Cooper was 'discovered' and the whole emergency/police process kicked in.

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