10-08-2013, 01:38 AM #1
TN - Kathy Jones, 12, Nashville (walking to the Roller Drome) 29 Nov 1969 - #2
***WARNING*** Description is graphic.
- Short blonde hair. Naked in the weeds,
- lying on her right side, back bent, arms tied behind her with plaid cloth.
- Her eyes are slightly open, and her head is pushed far back...
- her blouse tied around her mouth and neck.
- Her throat has several almond shaped cuts.
- There is a puncture wound below her small left breast.
- Blood is here and there.
- Her right leg is straight
- her left knee is drawn almost to her waist.
- both vaginal and anal penetration
- Her buttocks are nearly black from the bruises.
- What clothes weren’t used to bind and gag her are crumpled beside her.
- a little glove with a checkered, Christmasy design
- Her coat lies in front of her
- white underwear are wadded on the ground against her chest
- Scattered on the grass are her purse and a deck of her playing cards.
- Beside her thigh, on its wheels, ready to be picked up and put on, is a clean, white, leather roller skate.
Last edited by bessie; 08-21-2014 at 06:51 PM.
04-10-2014, 09:20 PM #2
The plaid cloth was torn from the lining of her jacket.
I'm quoting my own post with a list of the facts taken primarily from media reports.
04-12-2014, 12:01 PM #3
Without any crime scene photos to work with I have to base my opinion just on what we do have here.
I don't think this was a planned, abduction, I think it was an opportunistic grab.
The offender wasn't really prepared for the abduction, hence why he had to use her own clothing to bind, and gag her.
Unfortunately this beautiful girl seems to have fallen victim, to the offenders perception, of injustice (real or imagined) against him... Namely Anger
I feel there was most likely a precipitating event that "set him off"
Though the offender inflicted a lot of pain upon her, the forced anal and vaginal rape, the marks on her buttocks, the callous indifference, it seems more indicative of anger (rage) than sadism, whereas id expect to see more torture style injuries, over a longer period of time.
Possibly with a slower more enduring style of killing the victim, commonly seen is sadistic killings, ex .. (repeated strangulation/release etc..)
In terms of physical violence visited upon the victim, the stabbing of the victim, tells volumes, this would be a different analysis if it were post mortem mutilation, however I feel the post mortem stabbing of the victim, which is evident by lack of blood flow to those injuries, demonstrates, that pretty, well.. he wasn't done with her, he felt the need, to take more out on her body, even though she was most likely deceased.
Another factor to consider, is that this individual might not have known she was deceased, when he decided to stab, her, furthering the notion, that this was a first time murder.
I don't think you'll find similar crimes in his background, for example, he didn't seem to know how to control a child though id certainly expect to see some prison time, for other crimes like assault, threats, theft, things along that line.
A history of a prison sentence, can also sometimes, evident by anal rape
I wouldn't however rule out further attacks, after this one, though not immediately .
Hell most likely be blue collar, lives or works, near where she was abducted, is at least familiar with where she was dumped.
If he has any military background id expect to see a dishonorable discharge, for behavioral issues, like, insubordination
I ll go one further, and say that there was most likely someone who knows, or at least strongly suspects, he was involved.
I think he would've been interviewed by police, and would've shown a lot of post offensive behavior.. increased use of alcohol or drugs , changing of appearance, unusual interest in the case, and possibly a sudden unexplained move to another area. He may even have confided, in someone about it,
Given this is all speculative, given that we were going off news reports.
04-19-2014, 06:52 PM #4[snipped]
"We'd actually looked at the evidence in the Kathy Jones case during some of the preliminary DNA testing, but with the advances that we have today, certainly that's a possibility," said Miller.
"As long as we have advancing technology as we do we're going to attempt to go forward with these cases.
Investigators said the Kathy Jones case seems to be most promising when it came to getting the DNA profile of the killer.
In 1998, Det. Miller stated he didn't think the bus driver was responsible. He was certain another man was the killer. I've always wondered how that panned out, and whether the unnamed person is a suspect today.
Miller said Adcox admitted to a lot of things he had done over the years, but the Jones killing wasn’t one of them. In addition, Miller says he and other detectives began developing some information on another subject.
“Myself and Detective Postiglione started going through the files and looking into the evidence and actually ran some polygraphs.”
The evidence they uncovered, Miller believes, is solid. So solid, in fact, that it led to the killer. Miller cannot say what that evidence is. “At this point in time, we feel certain we know who killed her.... This man is living in Nashville and works every day.”
“We haven’t completely given up on the case.” Miller says. “We’re hoping someone will come forward with a little information that will help us bring him to justice.”
“There is at least one person who we have tried to get to talk to us who could possibly provide us with enough information to get this guy, but I’m not sure they’re ever going to feel comfortable in doing that.”
Eight years after the murder police charged a man with Jones' killing, but dropped the charges later. Police said he was still a suspect.
"Kathy Jones was reported missing on Nov. 29, and her body was found Dec. 2, 1969," Postiglione said.
Twelve-year-old Kathy headed off for the roller rink but never made it there. "She was found in the alley on Grandview Avenue in a vacant lot with her roller skates still with her," Postiglione said.
Officers found the girl bound, gagged and sexually assaulted.
Police later arrested Edward Adcox, a convicted rapist, who they said bragged to other inmates about killing her, but the case fell apart when he changed his story.
"I was not guilty on the murder. I've never killed anybody in my life. I just can't stand the sight of blood, myself," Adcox said in a Channel 4 News interview at the time.
07-09-2014, 08:23 AM #5
TN - Kathy Jones, 12, 29 Nov 1969 - #2
Hi, I am sorry to be away so long.
LE has interviewed hundreds of men. So, very likely they did interview the murderer.
They also interviewed many people they knew weren't the murderer in order to get their impressions of this crime. Some of these people must have known the murderer.
Definite on sexual assault. I wish there was doubt, but there is not.
07-09-2014, 08:26 AM #6
One major suspect is still alive, so...
Last I talked to him, the detective was carefully reading the MANY police interviews with this individual.
07-09-2014, 08:28 AM #7
Yes... I took a break... I'm sorry, I have some things happening.
Thank you for your kind words about Kathy. I didn't know her, but she was much beloved by my family.
edit.. this is to belfastgirl73
07-09-2014, 08:33 AM #8
He came up with the same list of people, I think.
A stranger might be someone who has seen Kathy around and is kind of connected to her.. like Adcox.
07-09-2014, 08:37 AM #9
07-09-2014, 08:41 AM #10
07-09-2014, 08:43 AM #11
07-09-2014, 08:49 AM #12
07-09-2014, 08:53 AM #13
The murderer dumped out her purse and so maybe he just picked up the money she had out of the things he strewed around.
Thank you for thinking of Kathy and thank you of thinking of me.
Edit... this is in answer to Veidt.
07-09-2014, 09:02 AM #14
07-09-2014, 09:09 AM #15
But, apparently Pat Postligone, a very renowned detective... now retired, says she never got there. He has gone through her file with great care, so maybe there is somehow evidence she never got there? IDK...
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