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    OR - Stephanie Warner, 43, Ruch, 4 July 2013 - #3

    Missing Southern Oregon woman last seen on Fourth of July





    http://www.kptv.com/story/22806413/m...fourth-of-july

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    Detectives search new areas for missing Ruch woman

    By Jessica De Nova/KTVL.com

    [...]

    "We have received some additional new leads as of recent," said Detective Eric Henderson with the Jackson County Sheriff's Office.

    [...]

    Henderson said Thursday, Ames remains the only person of interest in the case.

    "The evidence in the case at this point indicates that he did have someone to do with her disappearance," said Henderson.

    Henderson said Ames is in Belleview, Florida, but detectives need the legal means to go after him.

    [...]

    Anyone with any information in the case, is asked to contact the Jackson County Sheriff's Office.


    Search for Stephanie Warner: Websleuthers trying to help find Warner

    Written by Roma Villavicencio, Posted: Tue, July 8 2014 at 9:00 PM, Updated: Wed, July 9 2014 at 3:12 PM

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    Last edited by bessie; 07-15-2014 at 01:27 PM.
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    "When you have a case, when you have probable cause, which means more likely than not a certain person committed a crime, well we can issue a warrant for their arrest for that crime and they can be extradited for that crime," said Henderson.

    Henderson hopes to find that probable cause hidden in new search areas.

    "We're gonna be focusing our searches primarily on areas where we knew that Stephanie had gone before and also some of the areas where Lennie Ames, uh, was known to camp out, where he was known to go gold mining. He did have several mining claims out in Jackson and Josephine County area," said Henderson.
    http://www.ktvl.com/shared/news/top-...id_13126.shtml
    Last edited by bessie; 07-15-2014 at 01:25 PM. Reason: To comply with copyright rule. It was already posted, anyway.
    STEPHANIE ANNE WARNER, 43, RUCH, OREGON
    MISSING & PRESUMED MURDERED July 4, 2013
    LENNIE AMES NAMED SUSPECT
    Anonymous Tips? Reward up to $1000
    Crime Stoppers of So. Oregon 800-850-0580

    DISCUSSION:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post10750872

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    I love that Stephanie's name has made it to that big, yellow box above our heads!
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    I love that Stephanie's name has made it to that big, yellow box above our heads!
    Me too. I was so happy when that popped up on my screen!!! My fingers are crossed for more positive news for Stephanie's case.

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    THANK YOU to whoever made Stephanie the featured case again (was that you Kimster and/or Bessie?). It is so exciting to see that yellow box at the top of every thread.

    Locals will want to know that Detective Henderson has asked for volunteers to help in the new searches that will take place in Jackson and Josephine counties. This is mentioned at the end of the KTVL video linked below. Contact JCSO to volunteer. Main number is 541-774-6800.

    For anyone new stopping by, here is the Timeline thread to get up to speed quickly.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...hanie%20Warner

    Also, click on "links" in my signature for more info threads.

    Here are links to the most recent news stories about the case:

    Dateline Missing in America (A plea from Detective Henderson): http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/missi...warner-n144796

    Intrepid KOBI reporter, Roma Villavicencio's investigative report:

    KOBI July 3 (preview): http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/ite...l#.U8VnJtq9KSN

    KOBI July 7 (Exclusive access to Detective Henderson): http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/ite...l#.U8Vn89q9KSP

    KOBI July 8 (Websleuths featured): http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/ite...l#.U8VmvNq9KSP

    Detective Henderson lays his cards on the table and asks for help:

    KTVL July 12: http://www.ktvl.com/shared/news/top-...id_13126.shtml
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    STEPHANIE ANNE WARNER, 43, RUCH, OREGON
    MISSING & PRESUMED MURDERED July 4, 2013
    LENNIE AMES NAMED SUSPECT
    Anonymous Tips? Reward up to $1000
    Crime Stoppers of So. Oregon 800-850-0580

    DISCUSSION:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post10750872

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    I just ran across the JCSO 2013 Annual Report. Stephanie's case is mentioned on page 18.

    http://jacksoncountyor.org/DesktopMo...Id=3&TabId=340
    STEPHANIE ANNE WARNER, 43, RUCH, OREGON
    MISSING & PRESUMED MURDERED July 4, 2013
    LENNIE AMES NAMED SUSPECT
    Anonymous Tips? Reward up to $1000
    Crime Stoppers of So. Oregon 800-850-0580

    DISCUSSION:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post10750872

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    Lilibet, you know you mentioned there are three missing people in Humboldt Cnty in the last thread?

    Well, a body has been found there, but I couldn't find any recent missing people there on WS?

    http://www.times-standard.com/crime/...re-off-highway
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    Lilibet, you know you mentioned there are three missing people in Humboldt Cnty in the last thread?

    Well, a body has been found there, but I couldn't find any recent missing people there on WS?

    http://www.times-standard.com/crime/...re-off-highway
    Here you go. Both Danielle and Sheila have been missing since late January and the same man was apparently the last one to see each of them. I think it's likely to be one of the women, considering the location and condition of the remains. The missing man Jeff Joseph has only been missing since June 21, a little further north. Sadly, all three of them likely had some involvement with unsavory elements in Humboldt county's marijuana growing community. It's a dangerous line of work.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...8#post10750748

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...8#post10750758

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...1#post10750806

    My favorite local news source:

    http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2014/jul...r-valley-road/

    http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2014/jul...probably-year/
    STEPHANIE ANNE WARNER, 43, RUCH, OREGON
    MISSING & PRESUMED MURDERED July 4, 2013
    LENNIE AMES NAMED SUSPECT
    Anonymous Tips? Reward up to $1000
    Crime Stoppers of So. Oregon 800-850-0580

    DISCUSSION:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post10750872

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    I have just recently read all the threads, posts and links that were available from start to finish. I am truly confused as to why when it was first apparent that Stephanie went missing, LE did very little on this case. There was little media coverage, posters etc to make the public aware. Perhaps if more information had been released to the media, to promote public awareness, this case may have been solved.

    However, this
    group has done an amazing job in research and bringing about public awareness. Kudos to all of you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarika View Post
    I have just recently read all the threads, posts and links that were available from start to finish. I am truly confused as to why when it was first apparent that Stephanie went missing, LE did very little on this case. There was little media coverage, posters etc to make the public aware. Perhaps if more information had been released to the media, to promote public awareness, this case may have been solved.
    However, this
    group has done an amazing job in research and bringing about public awareness. Kudos to all of you.
    Welcome to Stephanie's forum Tarika! We are always appreciative of new members joining our discussion! I know it took you a while to read all the threads; so, please put your 2 cents in, we'd love to hear it!

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    In retrospect, it does seem opportunities were missed. Maybe there was a fear Lennie Ames would lawyer up and refuse to answer questions, or disappear, if publicity became intense?

    As he did disappear when he was named a POI, it seems those fears were grounded. For someone who stood his ground and fought for his 'right' to squat and live where he wasn't allowed to for so long, I find it deeply suspicious he upped and ran away from this.
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    Blush. I forgot to welcome you Tarika. But I do.
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarika View Post
    I have just recently read all the threads, posts and links that were available from start to finish. I am truly confused as to why when it was first apparent that Stephanie went missing, LE did very little on this case. There was little media coverage, posters etc to make the public aware. Perhaps if more information had been released to the media, to promote public awareness, this case may have been solved.

    However, this
    group has done an amazing job in research and bringing about public awareness. Kudos to all of you.
    Thank you, Tarika, for your kind words and for taking the time to read everything. That's amazing! It helps to know that someone looking at this case with fresh eyes has the same questions and frustration we had from the beginning. I hope you'll stay with us and help us keep a vigil, waiting for justice for Stephanie.

    STEPHANIE ANNE WARNER, 43, RUCH, OREGON
    MISSING & PRESUMED MURDERED July 4, 2013
    LENNIE AMES NAMED SUSPECT
    Anonymous Tips? Reward up to $1000
    Crime Stoppers of So. Oregon 800-850-0580

    DISCUSSION:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post10750872

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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    In retrospect, it does seem opportunities were missed. Maybe there was a fear Lennie Ames would lawyer up and refuse to answer questions, or disappear, if publicity became intense?

    As he did disappear when he was named a POI, it seems those fears were grounded. For someone who stood his ground and fought for his 'right' to squat and live where he wasn't allowed to for so long, I find it deeply suspicious he upped and ran away from this.
    This request from JCSO July 23, 2014 has always made me wonder what was going on:

    BBM

    NewsWatch 12 is complying with a Jackson County Sheriff’s Office request to avoid releasing additional details about the investigation for now.

    The Sheriff’s office says making too much information public could put the search for Warner at risk. The sheriff’s office says they expect movement in the case in the coming days or weeks, and at that time coverage will continue into the situation.
    http://www.kdrv.com/boyfriend-of-mis...an-speaks-out/

    This was published the same day that KOBI ran the interview with Ames and son. The video was never posted online, although Roma's story July 3 this year contained a snippet. Ames later claimed that he had all three stations come interview him. Only KOBI ran the video, AFIK.

    I've always been curious what info they thought releasing would put the search for Stephanie at risk. Perhaps LE already thought she had been murdered, but didn't want to show their hand yet. Or, they may have hoped as we did that she was being held in the woods somewhere in one of Ames' bunkers. Or, as you said, Zwie, they may have been trying to prevent Ames from lawyering up and/or disappearing. Perhaps it will all come out at the trial.
    STEPHANIE ANNE WARNER, 43, RUCH, OREGON
    MISSING & PRESUMED MURDERED July 4, 2013
    LENNIE AMES NAMED SUSPECT
    Anonymous Tips? Reward up to $1000
    Crime Stoppers of So. Oregon 800-850-0580

    DISCUSSION:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2#post10750872

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