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  1. #1
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    Apr 2013

    AZ - Coconino Co., WhtMale UP9781, 35-66, bore holes in skull, Nov'11

    Well, this one's a little bit different:

    Found on Good Enough Ridge in the Coconino National Forest, about 30 miles east of Camp Verde, maybe 100 miles NNE of Phoenix. Estimated height 72 inches.


    The two holes in the skull were suspicious to county detectives. But the edges were too smooth, too precise. They weren’t jagged like those produced by bullets. And they were correct.

    A Flagstaff neurosurgeon confirmed that the two holes in the skull were made to relieve pressure on the brain while the man was still alive... The procedure is called “trepanation.” “The person had some kind of medical condition that would cause swelling of the brain,” Sumner said.

    The bones had been exposed to the elements for somewhere between six to 18 months. The spine had a slight curvature that might have been noticed by people when they saw the man in life.
    From his NamUs listing: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9781

    Chiari 1 malformation with a C1 laminectomy and 2 surgical bore holes (right older than left). Right bore hole has bone remodeling, which incorporated a hemoclip into the margin of the hole. Numerous hemoclips were observed on radiograph (use of hemoclips are not common in either Chiari 1 decompression surgery or surgical bore holes for a shunt placement). The decedent is edentulous. Many of the vertebrae exhibit pitting with osteophytic activity.

    Appears to have had 2 surgeries to place VP shunts in skull. The burr hole from the surgery on the right side was done some time before the surgery and burr hole on the left side. Chiari 1 malformation decompression with a C1 laminectomy.
    Ruled out:

    James Dixon 1978 Arizona
    Robert Friesen 1947 Arizona
    Joseph Griffith 1971 Arizona
    Bronson Guillen 1978 Arizona
    Michael Tapley 1956 Arizona
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-18-2014 at 02:52 PM.

  2. #2
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    Sep 2013
    Maybe someone with hydrocephalus? My college roommates son had to have a shunt put in when he was six months old and they told her then that it might need to be replaced when he got older.

  3. #3
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    Oct 2013
    Links that mentions trepanation:http://shortwhitecoats.com/2012/top-...ical-therapies
    *****WARNING***** The above link contains ****GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATIONS****not for the faint of heart and definitely not while you are eating!!! Scroll down the page to see trepanation discussion/history. The article says it can be used in "emergency situations", but people who practice alternative health may also have the surgery.


    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

  4. #4
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    Oct 2009
    New England
    The operation might be listed on a missing persons report, imprecisely, as "craniotomy."

    "Chiari 1 malformation decompression with a C1 laminectomy" explained here: http://www.conquerchiari.org/education/chiari-faqs.html
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

  5. #5
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    Jan 2014

    Todd Hofflander
    Missing since 9/27/2010
    Height 6'1
    Age 39
    Cranial surgery
    Back surgery
    Was hiking Hells Canyon to Snake River in Idaho when he disappeared.
    Was wearing a green tshirt with white lettering when last seen
    Experienced hiker

    Long way from where he was last known to be...But the cranial surgery and back surgery are a good fit...ditto with height


  6. #6
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    Sep 2012
    northern VA, USA
    Fascinating MP case! Only here to bookmark.

  7. #7
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    Aug 2010
    A long shot in many ways, but Robert Rithaler? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...er_robert.html https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/7849/0/ (No DNA, no dentals).

    Missing from Kentucky, but height is waaay off from the estimate (Rithaler is 5'6", but as the remains are a skull I'm unsure about how accurate the height estimate might be). Substantial brain surgery, back issues. Also, it may have been Chiari malformations that he suffered from, because according to some reports he is prone to seizures, and Chiari patients can be prone to seizures as well. He's been legally declared deceased.

    However, he did NOT have a dental plate - but his front teeth were capped, if that influences anything? Greying hair. Absolutely no idea how or why he would be in Arizona. Here is a thread about him: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...rt-18-May-2010

    This UID had such substantial brain surgery that I think it is unlikely to not be mentioned in a missing persons report, so maybe he was never reported missing? Then again, I've read lots of cases where pretty important details were left off in reports (like really identifiable tattoos, etc).
    Last edited by alllads; 07-23-2014 at 07:23 AM.

  8. #8
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    Aug 2010
    To correct my previous post, I was wrong, they didn't collect just the skull, but a skeleton as well, making the height estimate more reliable. Makes Robert Rithaler even less likely, as he also had bowed legs which would be noticeable on a skeleton almost certainly...

  9. #9
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    Jul 2014
    Concerning bore holes. In the 70's my sister was in a car accident in which her neck was broken. The surgery could not be performed immediately so bore holes were drilled and a weight contraption attached.

  10. #10
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    Feb 2013
    Melbourne, Australia
    Very far from home and no mention of dentures but how about Vincent Durso?


  11. #11
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    Oct 2009
    New England
    No new ruleouts. His Namus page hasn't even been updated since 2014.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

  12. #12
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    Oct 2014
    san jose, ca
    im thinking this could have been a dependent adult

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