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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperDoll View Post
    Do you think that this was premeditated? I personally think it was. I think RH had been thinking about this for some time. My theory is Cooper was going to be a hinder in RH's life, more trouble than it's worth. I believe he was trying to figure out a way to get rid of Cooper without it looking like it was intentional. This is STRICKLY MY OPINION and sometimes my opinions are not correct (but this one is..lol)



    What is your theory?

    strictly, that's not just your opinion. its the opinion of the cops and the DA. and its what they want you to believe.



    I don't have a theory. I want to be convinced.
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    Don't forget that he had cleared his history on all his devices. That sorta points the premeditation to me anyway.

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    as of what date? (lnk plz)....and, since he's an IT guy, he would know that simply clearing the histories would be meaningless to anyone taking more than a cursory look at them, and that the act without actually getting rid of them would only heap suspicion his way.


    looked at that way, clearing his histories might indicate lack of premeditation.
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kip View Post
    Premeditated, IMO.

    Mostly because:

    1. Can't believe RH could forget he was to drive to daycare in less than a minute.
    2. Can't believe RH didn't see or hear Cooper in the drive to work (and backing up to park).

    Also:
    3. Can't think why RH would make himself late for work by going to CFA. He could have gone earlier. It makes me wonder why, other than to arrive at the parking lot after everyone else was already in the building.

    4. The fact that he at least read about (if not researched ) kids dying in hot cars and didn't implement any safeguards to prevent it from happening.

    5. I don't believe RH didn't smell anything when he went to the car at noon and after work.

    6. His behavior where he stopped with Cooper was bizarre and, IMO, not like most parents in that situation would act.

    7. His reply to LE that he shouldn't be arrested because it wasn't intentional (I can't remember the exact legalese term he used), but it sounded to me that he had looked up the law.

    A bunch of other things too, but these are the most relevant for me.
    with all due respect, the only one of these that is beyond explanation is 5...and not when he went to the car at lunch..,.the AJC interprets the video different than Stoddard, and their interpretation presents a different possibility....however, I need an explanation of how he could get in the car and drive any distance at all with out smelling it.
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    I think this could have been pre-meditated, but not in the usual sense. I'm wondering if Ross knew he was running late for the office, so he planned to temporarily leave Cooper in the car, put in an appearance at the office to avoid getting into trouble, then step out again soon to take him to daycare. I wonder if this could have been a habit of his and LH knew about it, hence LH possibly having him do online research about the risk. But on this day he got distracted by other "activities". MOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by costalpilot View Post
    as of what date? (lnk plz)....and, since he's an IT guy, he would know that simply clearing the histories would be meaningless to anyone taking more than a cursory look at them, and that the act without actually getting rid of them would only heap suspicion his way.


    looked at that way, clearing his histories might indicate lack of premeditation.
    No link. It was stated as such at the PCH hearing.
    The more I learn, I agree. By not completely wiping out his history it does make him appear more guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by costalpilot View Post
    strictly, that's not just your opinion. its the opinion of the cops and the DA. and its what they want you to believe.



    I don't have a theory. I want to be convinced.
    Maybe you should wait for the trial.

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    the problem I see with many here is that they just can't imagine certain assertions possible, when they absolutely are. I'll start with one that doesn't involve sex, and which I think most may be able to see: The impossibly quiet baby. Ive seen more than one firmly stated opinion here that a baby that age could not possibly have remained stone cold quiet for the several minutes it took to get to the parking lot.

    That's rubbish. Ive raised three children and for a time I worked on the pediatric ward of A large dual -military installation hospital. It may be rare, but its not THAT rare. Babies that age are often quiet for more than several minutes, even during and after being stimulated, as in going to eat at the Chic fil et.

    but there are several other oft stated, possibly wrong assumptions that may have to do with sex. Many here, seemingly, cannot fathom the mind of the accused, either the wrongly accused or the rightly accused MAN.

    I cannot fathom the rightly accused man, but I can the other. That is not to say I necessarily believe the excuses/the stories. I don't. But I know they are possible.

    If you don't know what is possible, as near as it can be known, its got to be more difficult to find what is not possible.

    imo.

    I'm looking for what is not possible. Then, I'll think I'll know.

    with all due respect. I admire a lot that is done here. I love to come here, and see what's happening. Its practically the only place I can find thinking minds. I am always impressed.
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHERIE.T View Post
    Maybe you should wait for the trial.
    if everyone waited for the trial, there wouldn't be any threads here now, would there?
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHERIE.T View Post
    Maybe you should wait for the trial.
    Applause.

    Sorry for those members who demand convincing arguments, but if them is y'all, you'ns are in the wrong place. "Convincing" is not our job.

    Hope I got all the colloquialisms down.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by costalpilot View Post
    if everyone waited for the trial, there wouldn't be any threads here now, would there?

    Well, these threads are for discussion and speculation. If you demand "convincing", you very well may have to wait for the trial.

    Or, you may opt to be less challenging and simply discuss information and evidence with the rest of us.

    Either way, nobody is under any obligation to "convince" you. With respect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by costalpilot View Post
    if everyone waited for the trial, there wouldn't be any threads here now, would there?
    ummm Wrong, imo.

    I didn't say everyone should wait until trial.

    I said maybe YOU should after reading that you want to be convinced...like a juror, kwim?
    This is a forum, not a courtroom.

    Add to that there are enormous amounts of information, data and scenarios to discuss here at WS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilSoup View Post
    Well, these threads are for discussion and speculation. If you demand "convincing", you very well may have to wait for the trial.

    Or, you may opt to be less challenging and simply discuss information and evidence with the rest of us.

    Either way, nobody is under any obligation to "convince" you. With respect.

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    I think if people read the National Enquirer article that is on here somewhere, they might find it of interest.

    It is of an interview of a man that was in the jail waiting with JRH.

    To me, it is a mind blower.

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    HD and Chik-fil-a

    [QUOTE=PaperDoll;10794516]Do you think that this was premeditated? I personally think it was. I think RH had been thinking about this for some time. My theory is Cooper was going to be a hinder in RH's life, more trouble than it's worth. I believe he was trying to figure out a way to get rid of Cooper without it looking like it was intentional. This is STRICKLY MY OPINION and sometimes my opinions are not correct (but this one is..lol)


    What is your theory?[TE]

    I think RH planned Copper's death and during the planning decided to involve two businesses he thought had been unfair to him-HD and Chikfil-a. HD passed him over for a promotion and Chikfil-a didn't hire him. I think in his mind it was a great idea to connect these two companies to the horrible death of a baby. Think about breakfast with Copper and the idea of a last meal, often associated with betrayal. perhaps he figured he could get away with it and try to place some form of responsibility on HD so he could make them look bad, or maybe it was just having HD and Chikfil-a's name connected in any way to the death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    I think if people read the National Enquirer article that is on here somewhere, they might find it of interest.

    It is of an interview of a man that was in the jail waiting with JRH.

    To me, it is a mind blower.
    You mean the story about the guy who was drunk?
    “Yes, that's it! Said the Hatter with a sigh, it's always tea time.”
    ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

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